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It is the same thing every year.

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I've noticed that a few people have been talking about a relationship between set numbers and their size/functions. I'm sorry to be rude but is there actually any correlation, or is it just coincidence?

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Seeing as nothing (at least as far as I can remember reading/seeing) regarding 2H sets have been 100% confirmed. As far as I know, we only have the set numbers and names due to someone trying/looking up different combinations in the lego.com products pages.

If the three/four sets are indeed the Volvo excavator. a Claas tractor, a bucket wheel excavator and an "ultimate IP" car, here is just my completely objective and somewhat logical conclusion to what we might see when the sets are revealed:

Claas tractor: Flagship set, possibly womehat similar to the Unimog in size, functions and building style. Obviously as a tractor, so probably no live axle suspension etc. It could be RC, but that could pose a problem for more complicated attachments if they do make it of a modular "make-your-own-attachments" setup similar to the Unimog.

Volvo Excavator: Mid size set, utilizing four of the new 2x11 pneumatic cylinders. Given the scale of these cylinders, they would fit a semi-large excavator (8043 size) pretty much perfectly, and I suspect their mere introduction last year, along with the V2 pneumatics, means they'll be heavily used in a (licenced) set this year. Remember, 8043 only had a little over 1100 parts, but was expensive due to the PF components. I think (hope) this will be a decently sized wheeled excavator, with manual pneumatics, maybe with the possibility to add a motorized compressor. Price point could in this case easily be in the $100-120 range.

Bucket Wheel Excavator: If anything, I think this will be the smaller of the sets, in the $50-60 range. Either that, or it will indeed be a huge set, but I don't think they'd make a huge set of a so specialized and unknown type of vehicle.

IP Car: If this will indeed turn out to be a $300 UCS Technic set, I would be very glad indeed! Given of course that it introduces true to life solutions for gearboxes, and preferably some really advanced building techniques. If it is a licensed set as some seem to think, speculating in the actual brand is pretty senseless before we have some actual information pointing towards one or another. I know the BMW i8 was featured briefly in that one commercial, but I sincerely hope that is not the case :classic: As for RC: I highly doubt it, unless they make acompletely new RC drivetrain system with stronger, redesigned axles and joints to go with stronger motors.

I know the norm from the last couple of years' flagships have been RC model one year, and non-RC model the next. But nowhere is it written in stone (at least to my knowledge.. maybe in TLG headquarters in Billund?) that this is an absolute rule. Same logic applies to the sets' numbers.

Again; this is just my thoughts/speculation on 2H, given the information we have (or lack thereof). Can't wait till we see actuual pictures! :grin:

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Seeing as nothing (at least as far as I can remember reading/seeing) regarding 2H sets have been 100% confirmed.

We only know that the BuWeEx will have a wheel made of a motorbike rim and the buckets of the Arrocs, so that will probably be the flagship.

This is aslo a year of an RC flagship, but because we will have a "Technic UCS", maybe it won't be.

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We only know that the BuWeEx will have a wheel made of a motorbike rim and the buckets of the Arrocs, so that will probably be the flagship.

This is aslo a year of an RC flagship, but because we will have a "Technic UCS", maybe it won't be.

Please point me toward the source of this information. Buckets that wide seem rather strange for such a machine...?

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Please point me toward the source of this information. Buckets that wide seem rather strange for such a machine...?

This was probably me and I stated that this is only my vision.

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What if the new Volvo excavator is going to show case the entire pneumatics system, the 1x5, 1x11, 2x11 and 2x7. All featured in the excavator, 4 2x7's for outriggers,2 2x11 for arm lift, 1x11 for bucket curl, and a 1x5 for a bucket grab. A manometer would be placed on the side of the excavator, built into the excavator, like a viewing window for the meter in the engine bay, in tandem with an airtank. This could be a pneumatic flagship, not the overall flagship, but the flagship for the pneumatics for the decade. It's a viable option.

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While i don't care for the IP-car since cars really don't do it for me anyway and if i wanted one i could just build 8880 which has yet to be beaten really. I'm astounded by the sheer size of BWE:s so i'm worried that the set wont really be so big because that would probably be hard to do on a likable price range. But i wouldn't mind being proven wrong. As for as the other 2 sets go, the tractor will probably be a disappointment because as stated before Lego don't put much effort into those really nowadays. The excavator might be nice but i hope that none of them are RC because that would just raise the price too much. It should at least have a compressor so that you can use your own motor to drive it.

Oh how i long for the end of january when the pics will finally be out. :wub:

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No speculation on something excitingly new? How about additional parts of Pneumatics II (bigger pump for instance and a mega valve) or PF II (connectable to EV3?)? What if the IP car would introduce a new high performance motor and/or Bluetooth control?

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That could be an option, but I just feel like this thread is going in circles. I don't think I will be responding until we actually have pictures. Speaking of, it is less than a month till the Toy Fair, I'm kind of surprised that nothing has surfaced.

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Indeed, the Claas as a Unimog clone is a possibility. I have some interest in a model with various attachments, but Unimog never appeals to me much because it has various shortcomings. Especially now that I have the Arocs, I feel like Unimog is an underdeveloped hybrid between 9398 and 42043. But I can pay for a Unimog-style Claas if it doesn't turn out to be so bad.

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What if the new Volvo excavator is going to show case the entire pneumatics system, the 1x5, 1x11, 2x11 and 2x7. All featured in the excavator, 4 2x7's for outriggers,2 2x11 for arm lift, 1x11 for bucket curl, and a 1x5 for a bucket grab. A manometer would be placed on the side of the excavator, built into the excavator, like a viewing window for the meter in the engine bay, in tandem with an airtank. This could be a pneumatic flagship, not the overall flagship, but the flagship for the pneumatics for the decade. It's a viable option.

That is a mighty nice vision, dream even.

Could give it a +1

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It is the same thing every year.

I cut the GIF. It contained a word that would have hit our language filter. In addition, it was just plain annoying.

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I cut the GIF. It contained a word that would have hit our language filter. In addition, it was just plain annoying.
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Sorry that i don't understand but what does GIF mean???

You can simply use Google and search for GIF. It's not that hard.

Now, let's get back on topic.

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Does anyone here go to the toy fair? Will we get some early feedback?? I'm nearly tempted to go myself!

This toy fair is only for sellers and press.Promobricks.de probably will attend this toy fair like last year.

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I think Huw from Brickset also goes to Toyfair, last year at least.

2017 thread should be named 'guessing, disinformation and whining', eh? :wink:

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When the Toy Fair starts so that we could see the first photos ? Is it on the 27th ?

With regards to the Volvo - we know that the price is getting higher once they add PF into the set. So if the Pneumatic V2 is added without motor (medium i.e.) it could still be at the reasonable price. Remember that the licence costs... so without count of parts we do not know what size of the model will be... I truly hope I will be worth to buy and play with it.

Claas - well we did had in the past tractors that were costly due to parts been used in it. I could be a mechanical wonder.

BWE - I do not like the kind of machine (real one) OK it does look impressive due to it size - but in terms of Lego set it will be (could be) a good source of parts - it could be size match to the current Mobile Crane :)

All above are my speculations only as I do not have any source of seen them

Regards

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You can simply use Google and search for GIF. It's not that hard.

Now, let's get back on topic.

Jim how about you stop being a stuck up prick, he didn't deserve that response. You moderate a Lego forum for adults, how about you cool it.

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Maybe Jim's in a bad mood because of the unnecessary arguments several pages before.

On another note, the Helicopter is officially revealed in Lego products page. Its instruction is still unavailable though.

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Maybe Jim's in a bad mood because of the unnecessary arguments several pages before.

Exactly!

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...the Helicopter is officially revealed in Lego products page. Its instruction is still unavailable though.

Also a drag racer, with instructions :)

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No offense taken Jim.

Jim how about you stop being a stuck up prick, he didn't deserve that response. You moderate a Lego forum for adults, how about you cool it.

Let's just keep it descend, there is already enough hate in the world.

No need for name calling here.

This is also a non adult reaction on your behalf.

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