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I only hope that Bucket wheel excavator is compatible with mining truck from this year.This would be epic!

Also I think that BUWEEX will these functions powered by xl motor.Powered belts and bucket wheel, rotating of body, lifting of arm and motorized threada.

Actually, real life BWE units do not work with mining trucks. Rather, the machine works by moving along the face, and then some distance behind the machine is a stationary conveyor belt system. The machine's discharge conveyor is then positioned to be as close to the takeaway conveyor as possible, and the machine then works back and forth.

It's the line in the background of this picture:

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I would think that Lego would include the discharge conveyor, because if anybody has any familiarity with BWEs, they think about the massive Krupp ones, which have this feature. That means an additional tread unit for the end of the conveyor.

So there will be 5 functions:

- Conveyor belt

- Bucket wheel

- Rotating

- Lifting arm

- Caterpillar tracks

In real life, can the bucket wheel and the conveyor belt work independently or simultaneously? Also, is it more likely to have independent tracks like 8043 or linked tracks like 42042?

My impression is that this machine is our flagship for 2016, and the Ultimate IP car or whatever it is actually called is a super flagship. I may be wrong, but even so. I would not think it could or would be remote control, unless the model were puny. Motors and receivers probably eat up set budget a lot faster than adding parts. I'm thinking it would work like this:

  1. Tracks. Ideally, there would be steering, but this is not likely.
  2. Rotate superstructure
  3. Bucket and conveyors
  4. Raise and lower bucket boom
  5. Move discharge conveyor left and right.
  6. Rotate discharge conveyor support tracks. In regard to the conveyor, the support treads could rotate as the conveyor moves, in order to stay pointed ahead, and motorized. More likely, they would be passive, and manually poseable.

So, that's six functions, possibly more. I just want to see what the designers can do. I'd also like to see some added stuff like a small service crane, multiple cabs, and an engine room.

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I would think that Lego would include the discharge conveyor, because if anybody has any familiarity with BWEs, they think about the massive Krupp ones, which have this feature. That means an additional tread unit for the end of the conveyor.

I really doubt we'll get a tracked discharge because steering them is tricky. Real ones presumably have a limited amount of lateral sliding as well as steering, but even so steering is complex and I expect the machines are never maneuvered by a single operator. Expecting one child to do it is pushing things.

What I expect is a free-end delivery conveyor hanging out the side of the machine. Or possibly just a chute.

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When I have this BWE in hands, I'll be holding it around my house pretending to be a maniac murderer with a chainsaw.

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Here nice video about Volvo 160E... Arocs and this Volvo are brand new machines so we can assume that it is also strategy to make promotion via Lego...

Max...

Edited by MaxSupercars

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I was not a big fan of wheeled excavators but when I saw this video I like how versatile it is... :) And you're right... the new pneumatic would fit on it very well... :)

Max...

Edited by MaxSupercars

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Thanks for info about that belt system, but I find for showcase purpose mininig truck next to BWE very interesting.

As I say BWE is probably flagship without RC and ultimate car is flagship with rc because price seems to indicate this.

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What can the BWE's B model be? With tracks, conveyor belt, and bucket wheel, I think a trench digger is most likely.

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Edited by nguyengiangoc

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What can the BWE's B model be? With tracks, conveyor belt, and bucket wheel, I think a trench digger is most likely.

This is very high possibility, good idea!

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Edited by Ondra

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This is very high possibility, good idea!

*snip*

Probably. It could aslo be a harbour crane with conveyor belt.

I'm thinking it will be something like the 8043 motorized excavator.

Edited by Kaanere

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Wikipedia says that BWEs are the largest ever machines so is it expected to be the largest LEGO set, surpassing the AROCS?

And if it will include a huge superstructure, where would that (or part of it ) be used in Model B?

Edited by Samer

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Wikipedia says that BWEs are the largest ever machines so is it expected to be the largest LEGO set, surpassing the AROCS?

And if it will include a huge superstructure, where would that (or part of it ) be used in Model B?

We have no clue about the scale yet, and its more expected to be pretty similar as the blue crawler crane both in functions (like one motor alone does alot of work with a complex gear box) AND size, ok well maybe slightly bigger.

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Wikipedia says that BWEs are the largest ever machines so is it expected to be the largest LEGO set, surpassing the AROCS?

And if it will include a huge superstructure, where would that (or part of it ) be used in Model B?

Cwetqo say that there are sets priced 220€ for regular flagship and 300€ for ip car.If we assume that BWE is regular flagship price is higher than arocs .So there is really possibility that piece count will be higher.

BWE are impressive machinery so lego version must be impressive too.

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It will be interesting to see how (or if) they can justify such a extremely high price for just a car, it needs to be very special then. Maybe a new RC system with a pistol grip transmitter?

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It will be interesting to see how (or if) they can justify such a extremely high price for just a car, it needs to be very special then. Maybe a new RC system with a pistol grip transmitter?

Or something like this?

EDIT: I will never understand of how to put a video.

Edited by Kaanere

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Or something like this?

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKe89zcvHU]https://www.youtube....e89zcvHU[/media]

EDIT: I will never understand of how to put a video.

Take out the "s" in 'https' It should work.

Edited by JJ2

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Maybe Technic will be starting a "Technic USC" line of sorts. Something kids won't be interested in, or have money for, but AFOLs will eat up like candy?

​Disclaimer:This is NOT a rumor, just my idea. Don't go nuts went you read it cause you"re on a sugar high from Halloween.

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Maybe Technic will be starting a "Technic USC" line of sorts. Something kids won't be interested in, or have money for, but AFOLs will eat up like candy?

​Disclaimer:This is NOT a rumor, just my idea. Don't go nuts went you read it cause you"re on a sugar high from Halloween.

There, I fixed it. :sweet::laugh: In all seriousness, the Ultimate IP car had better be exceptional. If this scenario were to be the case, Lego would want to test the waters, and if the car is poorly received, that could nuke the chances of getting other ucs style sets. Also, considering it is like $300+, I would hope for a new, non IR control system, that will be used in other sets. It may be that this is actually a launching platform for an expanded series of PF components, much like 8275 back in 2007.

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The annual flagship sets receive "special" treatments here in Vietnam. For big sets like 42042, their prices in Vietnam is 2 million VND higher than their original prices (don't freak out, the actual monetary unit in VN is 1000 VND, not 1 VND). For examples, the original price of the 42042 in VND is around 3 mil VND, and it is sold in Vietnam for 5 mil. The 2 million difference is quite acceptable, because when I order Lego sets from a shipping company, the service fee is also around 2 mil VND.

But, for 2H flagships, for some unknown reasons, the difference is 4 mil VND. Arocs' original price in VND is around 5 mil VND and it is sold in VN for 9 mil VND, which is already higher than middle-class average monthly income.

If the IP Car turns out to cost 300 EUR, I think it won't be able to breathe Vietnamese air.

Edited by nguyengiangoc

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I like and dislike Technic UCS idea at the same time. While I hope it would be awesome, I'm afraid my wallet is not going to be very happy about additional spending to already quite high values.

In case that UCS model will be at least good it is going to have a success on the market. We all know what happened to first SW UCS and Modulars, so reseller will make sure to stock on Technic UCS models.

Edited by zux

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