The Kumquat Alchemist Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) No, I mean the "gentle giant" aspect they added this time. I know that's what his orginal personality is (unfortunately the movies stereotyped the Earth characters into big boisterous guys), my comment was mainly directed at his body build. I think the personality his build evokes is a matter of opinion. To me, he looks more like a slow to anger, slow to stop being angry sort of fellow who you do not want to push beyond a certain limit. Edited November 10, 2014 by The Kumquat Alchemist Quote
Risgrynsgrot Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I think this is the worst of all Toa, the chest is just way too wide for how small he is. Huge bummer about the sticker on the chest, that really grinds my gears too. Shame, since Onua was my favourite back in the day. Quote
ZORK64 Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I've seen a lot of people suggesting the arms and legs should be longer and I just don't see it. Arm and Leg length typically works as a function of a characters overall height, and while Onua has a huge, broad chest and shoulder base, he's actually tied with Pohatu as the shortest of the new Toa. I like the look these dwarf-like proportions give him (making him look strong enough to carve tunnels through the earth but small enough to fit through them), and I think lengthening his arms and legs without significantly changing the torso build to make that taller as well would result in a very odd-looking figure I wouldn't really give him longer limbs, I just would beef his lower arms up a bit. They look very sleek to the rest of his body design. His legs, actually, start to grow on me and look fine now. I just would've put some more armour on his lower arms to give them the same beefy feel as seen in this artwork. Quote
Shakar Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 So your complaint is that they made his figure match his personality? Have they? I didn't know that being quiet and wise automatically makes you bulky. Quote
Chimaninja454 Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 I think this is the worst of all Toa, the chest is just way too wide for how small he is. Huge bummer about the sticker on the chest, that really grinds my gears too. Shame, since Onua was my favourite back in the day. Hahahahahahahaha! Quote
Grima Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Have they? I didn't know that being quiet and wise automatically makes you bulky. He's quiet and wise but he's also strong. Since it's not his mask's power doing so anymore, one would expect it's made up for in muscle. The alternative is the strong guy is a noodle like the others. (Okay, noodle is an exaggeration, but I see no issue with him looking strong and powerful to match, well, being strong and powerful.) Quote
DalekSram Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 (edited) I do agree. He looks better with shovels than a hammer. If he had 2 hammers it might have looked good, but with 1... I don't know, it just doesn't seem to work. Edited November 11, 2014 by DalekSram Quote
K-Nut Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 I think I'm part of the minority that likes the hammer more than the claws. To me, the Claws don't seem to work with the overall size of Onua. I do like the Smokestack Idea, though. Something along the lines of Onua Nuva's weapons would have worked best, IMO. Then again, with Tahu and Kopaka, those would've seemed too overused in the 2015 line. Also, although it's nice to have some variety in overall shape for the Toa, I'm not sure how much I like the big, hulking look for Onua. I much prefer the smaller look along the lines of the rest of the Toa (something like Onua Nuva would really be better, IMO). I do really like how the Gold Masks look on these figures. Much nicer than having a wasted, extra mask that doesn't look good at all on the figure. Quote
Zaktan of the Shadows Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Every 2015 BIONICLE set gets an outstanding in my book. LEGO really outdid themselves, such as they have on Onua. Great review, very informative and excellent pictures. While yes, stickers bug me, the build itself looks to be a blast and I cannot wait to add this Master of Earth to my collection. -NotS Quote
Shakar Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 He's quiet and wise but he's also strong. Since it's not his mask's power doing so anymore, one would expect it's made up for in muscle. The alternative is the strong guy is a noodle like the others. (Okay, noodle is an exaggeration, but I see no issue with him looking strong and powerful to match, well, being strong and powerful.) That makes sense I guess (I keep forgetting the changes they made to the mask powers). I suppose I shouldn't compare him to G1 Onua, but I still have a hard time seeing an obvious representation of a character I know for almost 14 years get so big all of sudden. I like 70789 Onua Master of Earth as a set, just not as a representation of the character I'm used to. It's a great addition to the toyline and I'm glad it brings some diversity (and that sweet, sweet black chest).Also, although it's nice to have some variety in overall shape for the Toa, I'm not sure how much I like the big, hulking look for Onua. I much prefer the smaller look along the lines of the rest of the Toa (something like Onua Nuva would really be better, IMO). Yeah, pretty much this. Quote
Voxovan Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I don't have any problem with Onua's look, I mean, he's always been the strong Hulk-type guy for me. Quote
Aanchir Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I don't have any problem with Onua's look, I mean, he's always been the strong Hulk-type guy for me. I also feel the look suits him. And again, one of the things that really sells me on his new design is that even with such different physiques than they've had in the past, he and Pohatu are still the shortest of the six Toa, just as they were in 2001 and 2002. That's a huge thing for me, especially after the Mistika version managed to screw that up and make Onua one of the tallest. Quote
ToaDraco Posted November 19, 2014 Posted November 19, 2014 Onua will be my first purchase. As my favorite of the original Toa, I absolutely love what they've done with the character, he looks fantastic! The warhammer is great and I really like the homage to the original with the shovel-hands. I really like the new Pakari, its definitely one of the closest mask to resemble the original and the purple is a great secondary color. I'd rather there wasnt any gold on him as I think it is a bit much but at least it's really well spread out in the color scheme. Quote
Logan McOwen Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 While his shaping is great, and the build is really impressive... What the hell is going on with his colours? Gold, alongside silver? What? If I do get Onua, I'm very tempted to swap the gold for silver. Even then, those big plates near his shoulders would look much better in black. Oh, and the hammer is... Odd. Who ever heard of a hammer with a rounded nose? It could've also used some corrugated tube pieces on the handle, as it looks very weedy. Quote
Aanchir Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 Oh, and the hammer is... Odd. Who ever heard of a hammer with a rounded nose? To me, its shape recalls the shape of some Native American hammers, which I think is pretty appropriate considering the assorted tribal imagery of the new BIONICLE! Quote
bjj8383 Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 How. he certainly looks... different.... from classic Onua. Quote
ColdGoldLazarus Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 That makes sense I guess (I keep forgetting the changes they made to the mask powers). I suppose I shouldn't compare him to G1 Onua, but I still have a hard time seeing an obvious representation of a character I know for almost 14 years get so big all of sudden. I like 70789 Onua Master of Earth as a set, just not as a representation of the character I'm used to. It's a great addition to the toyline and I'm glad it brings some diversity (and that sweet, sweet black chest). Yeah, pretty much this. I've always seen G1 Onua as a muscular but lean figure, (with a deep but smooth and relaxing voice like Kingsley Shacklebolt rather than his MoL voice) but after somewhat of an adjustment period, the new set has grown on me. Different generation, different Onua. (Really the only thing about the new sets that I still don't like and never will is how Lewa's mask makes him look like a cyberman.) This probably won't be my first purchase, but he's still good enough that I definitely will be obtaining him at some point. Quote
Shakar Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 Onua in the end grew on me as well. I was having trouble seeing him as such a large character due to some personal head canon elements, but every team needs one or two "big guys", so while Pohatu (I'm making him a bit taller and bulkier) is the jovial big guy, Onua is the quiet, wise one. So, now that I decided to not change his body, the mods I'm planning aren't many: longer legs, standard 2.0 feet (as I find the Beast feet too..well, beastly) and maybe replacing gold with silver. Quote
One Very Agile Cat Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 I'm deffinitely giving him longer arms and legs. Like, the longest, maybe evne use those rubbery extenders if I have to. I'll deffinitely be adding HF torso armour parts for shin guards like Tahu. If you're gonna have a big guy, make him a BIG guy! I'm really excited to see the various mods people will do with these. Quote
Shakar Posted December 22, 2014 Posted December 22, 2014 If you want to make him that big, you might want to try using the large torso beam for him. Also, I'm not sure if the new piston add-on can fit on a 2.0 torso shell (the Brain Attack torso does, too bad it's so limited in colours). Personally though, I want to try a different look for Onua: keep his body as it is and lengthen his limbs while keeping those 4M shells (or 5M at most). The result being a wide, strong body with long, thin limbs, sorta like Core Hunter. I think it would fit the creepy looking thin-yet-somehow-large build he had in 2001 well. Now, Pohatu I'm going to make into a tank, while keeping an athletic frame underneath. I'm super excited to get these sets and customize them. Quote
VBBN Posted December 23, 2014 Author Posted December 23, 2014 If you want to make him that big, you might want to try using the large torso beam for him. Also, I'm not sure if the new piston add-on can fit on a 2.0 torso shell (the Brain Attack torso does, too bad it's so limited in colours). It can indeed fit on a 2.0 shell. Interesting to note that it doesn't fit on the breakout shell. (Well, it fits, but not securely) Quote
GoldenChi Posted December 23, 2014 Posted December 23, 2014 I think he looks badass. The wide-barrel chest is really cool and I like that he has a unique body type. I also like his bio personality,because usually the rock guys are 'dumb as rocks'.So it's cool to have a wise,patient rock guy. Quote
Shakar Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) It can indeed fit on a 2.0 shell. Interesting to note that it doesn't fit on the breakout shell. (Well, it fits, but not securely) Those are some good news, thanks! Since Tahu's shins are exposed, I was under the impression the add-on couldn't fit on a 2.0 shell, but now I realize it was just a budget issue. This is certainly useful to add some texturing, 92216 has gotten a bit old I think.Shame about the Breakout shell but it's not much of an issue personally, I like it a lot but I don't use it that much outside torso armouring. I think he looks badass. The wide-barrel chest is really cool and I like that he has a unique body type. I also like his bio personality,because usually the rock guys are 'dumb as rocks'.So it's cool to have a wise,patient rock guy. Technically Onua is the Earth Toa, but I guess you mean that as a manner of speaking. Yeah I agree, that was the reason I chose to not change his body build in the end. There are big guys (yeah he's short, but he's strongest one etc..) like Pohatu (who isn't dumb, but isn't an intellectual like Kopaka either) who are the loud and friendly type like the Boisterous Bruiser trope, then there are big guys like Onua who are smart and quiet, closer to the Genius Bruiser trope. Edited December 24, 2014 by Shakar Quote
vexorian Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Why wouldn't they give him claws. Why big silver brick things. And why the attempt to revive Bionicle aesthetic while mixing it with HF bricks. Why. Quote
Aanchir Posted December 24, 2014 Posted December 24, 2014 Why wouldn't they give him claws. Why big silver brick things. And why the attempt to revive Bionicle aesthetic while mixing it with HF bricks. Why. What's wrong with his Turbo Shovelers? They look a lot more efficient for digging than his old claws were. There's a reason moles have large, shovel-shaped paws rather than long, skeletal fingers. Plus, they're really no more detailed than many Hero Factory pieces like this one, this one, or this one. They still have a smooth, solid look, even with occasional vents and pistons. Quote
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