LEGO Star Wars 2015 Pictures and Rumors

[Fuppylodders]

Lego can't cater for the entire past of Star Wars now that there are new SW things being done. If they re-released/rehashed the old classic vehicles anymore than already done, they'd take up space of the new sets for the new SW's being released. We'd get a slightly better X-wing, slightly better Y-wing, slightly better other stuff rather than completely new things. How many times do they have to redo things just so everyone can have them from the entire world's different generations of children?

TLG has to move forward with the dynamics of SW as SW's dynamics change otherwise things won't relate and it is essentially a bad marketing choice for them to stick to the dark ages while releasing a pitiful handful of new things because old things are keeping a few afols/tfols happy.

@LN, the fact you have collected all those different troopers means TLG have given you a CHOICE of a wide variety of minifigs. You could have 40 or so kashyyk troopers, or 40 odd utapau troopers. It was you that chose to have different types. The problem there is that you are doing just what TLG are catering to, the *choice* of a variety. That is not their fault.

So lets say TLG could make 2 BPs permanently made with no end of production, to keep all the A/TFOLs happy, such as the stormies, and perhaps rebels as the other one so the stormies have a relevant enemy to fight, for example. That means only 2 BPs would be released.

That is a bit naff.

What happens if they release the stormies just as the OT type how lots of people are requesting them to be, and everyone gets them?

People buy them, eventually they go oop. Then other people complain they missed out on them for this reason, or that reason, or whatever other reason and get upset that they are not being released again, then moan if something similar gets released that it isn't exactly the same.

100% of people won't ever be 100% happy as there is always something someone can not get.

A new generation of kids will appear, get older and wish they had some of the older sets.

TLG shouldn't have to keep going backwards in order to go forwards...

[Clone 01354 Productions]

No one said go backwards. All I meant was that they need to make generic troops more widely available, and specialty troops in more expensive sets.

[irispen]

I also starting to like the new rebel stormtroopers, but my problem is it will not be compatible not only on my old stormtroopers, but also with the tie pilots and new shadow stormtroopers...

[Fuppylodders]

Yet, it would be great to have a version of classic X-wing, MF, TIE fighter, etc. available for purchase currently or in the not too far future. If Lego went down the road of not redoing a ship or scene because it has already been done, I would have no chance of getting a classic vehicle or scene at a reasonable price. .

That right there is going backwards.

They recently had generic troops widely available. The Sith troopers in the previous wave, the Endor BP was actually pretty damned good, especially for those who want to make an Endor scene, the previous Mandalorien BP was perfect, current Utapau, and the current Kashyyk BP. They are generic troopers, but with a purpose. Specialised ones that don't make a great BP is the death star BP Those literally aren't an army building BP, who knows why they chose to do that one. The figs are decent, and could have been well presented in a slightly larger set...

TLG changed their BP style to 2 figs from opposing sides. They clearly tried it over a decent length of time to gauge how well it would do, and their reasons are understandable. But it has become apparant that 4 from 1 side is better than 2 from 2 sides which is most likely why they are reverting back to their original ways. I would expect literally from now to be well executed in a few specialised troops in BPs, but also with decent generic troopers that are perfect for army building. The rebel stormies BP I think is an amazing BP to be releasing and Ill probs only get 3 or 4 of them due to limited funds, and wanting everything else... The AT-DP set is also clearly something that has been influenced by people's requests for the potential to army build.

TLG are listening, they just can't cater to every individual request.

I also starting to like the new rebel stormtroopers, but my problem is it will not be compatible not only on my old stormtroopers, but also with the tie pilots and new shadow stormtroopers...

Again, where is the imagination? Why such a strict 'it has to fit or it's no good'?

I'll be using the shadow stormtroopers to fill out my moc of the Sith Fury Class Interceptor when that gets done. Why would I do that? They're not from the same era as TOR... But heck, I think they'll look damned good as fillers for busy bodies around the ship.

The differences of the rebel storm troopers are minimal. Mix them all up with the old ones, fill out a moc with 50+ of them in action poses and the difference won't really matter or be that noticeable. They're close enough.

[Venkefedo]

Yet, it would be great to have a version of classic X-wing, MF, TIE fighter, etc. available for purchase currently or in the not too far future.

To be fair, the X-wing and MF are currently available... how long they remain that way is anyone's guess, but they're still around (I wish the TIE fighter was, too; where there is a non-UCS X-wing, there should always be a non-UCS TIE!)

Once VII hits, we may go a few years without an OT X-wing since the concept/Z-95-style X-wings used in VII will likely be targeted for sets, and it probably won't be too long between the retirement of the current Falcon and the design & release of a new sequel trilogy Falcon. Different characters, perhaps, and a different dish, but it'll largely scratch that itch (and it'd be easy enough to get parts to make an OT-style dish)

[irispen]

Again, where is the imagination? Why such a strict 'it has to fit or it's no good'?

I'll be using the shadow stormtroopers to fill out my moc of the Sith Fury Class Interceptor when that gets done. Why would I do that? They're not from the same era as TOR... But heck, I think they'll look damned good as fillers for busy bodies around the ship.

The differences of the rebel storm troopers are minimal. Mix them all up with the old ones, fill out a moc with 50+ of them in action poses and the difference won't really matter or be that noticeable. They're close enough.

people have different things to do with their legos, i buy lego mainly for displaying and not playing. I want it to be as accurate as possible. I mean, you cant buy an ugly flower vase and put it in your center table and imagine it as beautiful! Lol

Edited October 8, 2014 by irispen

[Flieger]

Specialised ones that don't make a great BP is the death star BP Those literally aren't an army building BP, who knows why they chose to do that one. The figs are decent, and could have been well presented in a slightly larger set...

I almost begin to think Lego did that because the figs themselves are popular, but sets with them would be either really big (Death Star) or rather boring (cannon for the gunners... which is what they eventually did). Perhaps the Palpatine vs Yoda could have included the Guards, but other than that I have trouble imaging mid-range sets.

Army builders are a small group compared to those who only buy one or two BPs to complement their sets, or because they cannot afford bigger sets (yet). That is why even specialists BPs are worth it from Lego's point of view. Also when I was a kid in the late 80ies&early 90ies, the BP of the Pirate and Castle lines were quite top heavy and not terribly well suited for army building.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

people have different things to do with their legos, i buy lego mainly for displaying and not playing. I want it to be as accurate as possible. I mean, you cant buy an ugly flower vase and put it in your center table and imagine it as beautiful! Lol

Well worded! I only display accurate, perfect scenes. Mixing up so many different colors, styles, and types of troops looks terrible in a display.

The differences of the rebel storm troopers are minimal. Mix them all up with the old ones, fill out a moc with 50+ of them in action poses and the difference won't really matter or be that noticeable. They're close enough.

Yep, these look like each other.......Can't tell the difference!!

[Something_Awesome]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, if you have OT stormies from older sets, you can buy the BP and swap bodies (or helmets) and now you will have OT stormies with cool full-body printing. It's a great wau to update your old stormtroopers. They will blend in with the Summer waves once much better that way.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

But that brings us back to the problem: I DON'T have many older Stormies; only three of them. I guess that means I'll buy one ITT to get leg printing, and then have one odd-man out. Or, I could.....accept the Rebel Stormie.....

I really hope that the TV show gets the Alliance in really quick, just so i can get some rebel troopers. I only have Endor, and the minute we get the Tantive IV guys......I'm buying thirty of them.

[Spyderlord]

No one said go backwards. All I meant was that they need to make generic troops more widely available, and specialty troops in more expensive sets.

This is a very good point, I'm stunned that TLG isn't actually following this pattern. But, as I've been saying for a while, they seem to want to prevent people to army-build as part of a policy or something, it's rather out of this world that they don't realize that a BP with ISD stormtroopers would sell like 100x in volumes compared to the Rebels stormtroopers one.

[Darth Mallet]

I also starting to like the new rebel stormtroopers, but my problem is it will not be compatible not only on my old stormtroopers, but also with the tie pilots and new shadow stormtroopers...

Thats because they are from different SW shows/films - None of the CW stuff was ever compatible with the OT/PT (the cartoon faces to start with) Plus an arrary of vehicles that were never in the films. I made the 'Choice' not to buy any CW sets thus not upsetting/mixing up my collection.

If you want Rebels buy the Rebels BP, if you like regular stormtroopers etc then buy the Shadowtrooopers, if you like Clone style then buy the Geonosis BP

To me it looks like this wave caters for many different types of buyers/collectors which can only be good.

I am not talking about you here but so many people moan about what is released. If you dont like it dont buy it. TLG cant keep everyone happy and employ strategic marketing people to decide what gets produced - they are not worried about a handful of people moaning that the Rebels Stormie is different form the Regular one because millions of kids will want the rebels ones for Christmas after seeing the show. Disney and Lego are constantly (and rightly so) thinking about the next generation of fan because although it may not seem like it on a AFOL site most kids when they grow up stop buying LEGO.

This is a very good point, I'm stunned that TLG isn't actually following this pattern. But, as I've been saying for a while, they seem to want to prevent people to army-build as part of a policy or something, it's rather out of this world that they don't realize that a BP with ISD stormtroopers would sell like 100x in volumes compared to the Rebels stormtroopers one.

That is your opinion and not a fact - I would imagine (and i could be wrong) that Millions of kids asking for Rebels sets for Christmas would seriously outweigh the amount of people wanting to army build. We adult fans/collectors think Lego SW is being made for us, its not. The odd UCS targets the older fan but a battle pack that costs £9.99 is aimed at kids. The Rebels show is aimed at kids. Its been designed to attract a whole new generation of fans just before 6 major blockbuster films get released. I am in my late 30's and grew up with Star Wars and am a huge fan, I will watch Rebels, I will buy the sets but that doesn't change the fact that its aimed at kids.

[J.V.D.]

That is your opinion and not a fact - I would imagine (and i could be wrong) that Millions of kids asking for Rebels sets for Christmas would seriously outweigh the amount of people wanting to army build. We adult fans/collectors think Lego SW is being made for us, its not. The odd UCS targets the older fan but a battle pack that costs £9.99 is aimed at kids. The Rebels show is aimed at kids. Its been designed to attract a whole new generation of fans just before 6 major blockbuster films get released. I am in my late 30's and grew up with Star Wars and am a huge fan, I will watch Rebels, I will buy the sets but that doesn't change the fact that its aimed at kids.

True.. but on the other hand: all those kids wanting stormtroopers after seeing the Rebels show would probably not distinguish between the classic OT and the Rebel stormtroopers. They would want the BP anyway. So offering OT or Rebels style wouldn't make any difference when it comes to sales to the core market (kids / boys).

However, making them OT would mean an additional sale to the AFOL/ collectors public. True, they only represent a small % of the market, but many AFOL SW fans would probably buy multiples of the BP, whereas most kids are limited by their pocket money budget.

Again, we are only talking about some % here, but these days a lot of sales responsables would kill to see a rise in sales of 2 or 3%..

[Darth Mallet]

True.. but on the other hand: all those kids wanting stormtroopers after seeing the Rebels show would probably not distinguish between the classic OT and the Rebel stormtroopers. They would want the BP anyway. So offering OT or Rebels style wouldn't make any difference when it comes to sales to the core market (kids / boys).

However, making them OT would mean an additional sale to the AFOL/ collectors public. True, they only represent a small % of the market, but many AFOL SW fans would probably buy multiples of the BP, whereas most kids are limited by their pocket money budget.

Again, we are only talking about some % here, but these days a lot of sales responsables would kill to see a rise in sales of 2 or 3%..

They have made them different on purpose - the reason for this wouldn't be to shoot themselves in the foot sales wise. As i mentioned they have serious Marketing experts who use all sorts of data to determine what to do/produce and I am sure they are much better placed and on much higher salaries than us to say what should and shouldnt be produced. We are talking about a multi billion pound operation here that is in the hands of experts.

[Sir_Basil_Ashton]

Yep, these look like each other.......Can't tell the difference!!

Yup I agree, those are both definitely Stormtroopers. I can't tell the difference either.

Army builders are a small group compared to those who only buy one or two BPs to complement their sets, or because they cannot afford bigger sets (yet).

Couldn't agree with you more. As much as folks always talk about army building, how many truly army build? If the figures are out there, you can army build. It's your choice. I would army build more if it didn't cost so much. Do I blame LEGO? Absolutely not. They've given me many choices to army build with and I am happy for that.

[J.V.D.]

They have made them different on purpose - the reason for this wouldn't be to shoot themselves in the foot sales wise. As i mentioned they have serious Marketing experts who use all sorts of data to determine what to do/produce and I am sure they are much better placed and on much higher salaries than us to say what should and shouldnt be produced. We are talking about a multi billion pound operation here that is in the hands of experts.

Sounds like Lehman Brothers...

[jrad26]

Getting off topic aren't we

[The Executive]

I would have had a better chance of accepting the rebels storm trooper if they hadn't produced a new OT storm trooper along side it. The OT design is clearly more thought out and looks better by comparison. They could have at least made a micro fighter for the OT storm trooper design this winter.

[Robianco]

Lego may have been asked to design them differently full stop.

A decision was made to change the style of the CW stuff when it could easily have been the same... consistency of style with regular Jedis etc. I don't think all these design decisions are made by Lego and I don't think they're made with any kind of plan to upset people.

They have products to sell either in support of films or TV series or as stand alone sets based on the SW universe in general.

Someone either at Lego or Disney or Lucasfilm decided they wanted them to be different for Rebels... that's all.

[AFOLguy1970]

The odd thing about Rebels to me is that apart from the stormdroopers, the other minifigs seem compatible with non-Rebels sets. I can especially imagine some of the alien species in a Cantina scene.

Lego does not seem to limit the army building potential in Star Wars, they simply decide which minifigs they want to present as army builders. Like LN-01354 indicated, there is really a void of common type troops, especially the classic stormtrooper, sandtrooper that appeared in the movies. I hear mentions of an Endor Battle Pack, but the problem is that it is discontinued. Whether I missed the boat by ten years or one year, I still missed it It would be far easier for me to build an army of Death Star gunners or Royal Guards than it would be to get the stormies. The OT stormie will command a high price on Bricklink because ISD and Slave I are the only way to get them. My hope is that the summer 2015 wave will have at least one inexpensive way to get them before the new movie comes out. Once that happens, likely OT sets will be few and far between.

I would have had a better chance of accepting the rebels storm trooper if they hadn't produced a new OT storm trooper along side it. The OT design is clearly more thought out and looks better by comparison. They could have at least made a micro fighter for the OT storm trooper design this winter.

You nailed it. If the Rebels stormtrooper was the only version they ever made, even I would be OK with it. It is the knowledge that there is something better and more movie accurate out there that kills it for me.

[lightningtiger]

Now maybe we should consider the fact that Lego Star Wars, like all of the other Lego products evolve.....hence for the large number of X-wing, Tie fighters, etc., also that they believe the fan base for Lego Star Wars only lasts a few years per KFOL/TFOL.......perhaps thinking only AFOL's buy the UCS series of sets.

Plus something else, the latest additions to BP's the stud firing pistols.....add a play factor, just like the new Haspro SW products where you drive the Falcon or a Star Destroyer through armies lined up like old school green army soldiers.

They are all trying to compete against video games, TV and the internet for kids downtime or playtime.......and to keep those cash registers ringing up the sales and dragging in the cash.

[Darth Mallet]

Lego may have been asked to design them differently full stop.

A decision was made to change the style of the CW stuff when it could easily have been the same... consistency of style with regular Jedis etc. I don't think all these design decisions are made by Lego and I don't think they're made with any kind of plan to upset people.

They have products to sell either in support of films or TV series or as stand alone sets based on the SW universe in general.

Someone either at Lego or Disney or Lucasfilm decided they wanted them to be different for Rebels... that's all.

Exactly. Thus if you dont like any of it you dont have to buy it.

[TheBear]

Regardless of who made the stormtroopers different and why, it still sucks for anyone wanting to build an OT stormtrooper army that they made them different. Once this new wave comes out the droopy mouthed one will cost at least 4 times less than the more accurate OT one. I really don't think this was necessary since they haven't stylised the other figures in a cartoony way.

[The-Nexu]

What do you think about the womp rat? On one hand it leaves room for a better animal in 2015 but on the other it would have been nice to have a womp rat. I know they didn't appear on screen but scince when has that ever stopped lego? I onistly don't know what to think. It's a bit of a mixed bag. So, would you have liked a womp rat or not and is the lack of a new star wars animal a dealbreaker?

[Slurpifier]

Lego could've gave the womp rat an orange rat mould with printed features. I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting a fancy new womp rat mould.