Wodanis Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Hi, I am struggling with an issue in LDD where my palette decals for heads and bodies doesn't seem to have the full range for mini-figures. For example I cannot find the Elite Police body decals in LDD nor the masked robber head. Forest police are there, it is a case my version is not up to date? I have version 4.3.8 Any help would be great thank you! Quote
Lego Otaku Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Not all prints are in LDD. Some of the newest print won't show up for a while and older print may or may not get included with future updates. Nothing you can do here atm. Quote
Wodanis Posted January 26, 2014 Author Posted January 26, 2014 Thanks Lego Otaku. Guess that should be on our wishlist for LDD eh? Quote
pbat Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 LDD is far from complete with regards to decorations: Quite a bunch of them aren't included at all, while others are actually included but not accessible via GUI, but only by editing the LXFML file manually: Since LXF files are nothing but ZIP files, rename its extensions to .ZIP, unzip its content, edit the LXFML file with your favorite text editor (even Notepad works) and look for lines containing strings like decoration="0,0". Replace the zeros with appropriate decoration IDs, save the LXFML file, re-zip it and rename the ZIP-file back to LXF. Thus you can use "hidden" decorations that are included in LDD but not accessible via GUI. Have a look at the existing threads "[Recurrent Questions] Find a piece/brick in LDD (Ask here for help)" and "Minifig torso with all decorations!" for more information on that issue. And it's always a good idea to have a look at the "LDD Reference" thread as well. You may also file a request for decorations to be added in a future update in the thread "Most wanted decorations for next LDD update" if LDD currently doesn't contain the wanted decorations at all. Anyways, to be able to identify the decorations you are looking for, it will be very helpfull if you include the bricklink number of the respective brick you are talking about, like 973pb1350 for the Undercover Elite Police Officer torso: That torso seems to have the decoration IDs 601818 (front) and 601819 (back). Quote
Wodanis Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 Thank you Pbat, that is very helpful. I will have to try it out. Quote
Jindrich Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) LDD is far from complete with regards to decorations: Quite a bunch of them aren't included at all, while others are actually included but not accessible via GUI, but only by editing the LXFML file manually: Since LXF files are nothing but ZIP files, rename its extensions to .ZIP, unzip its content, edit the LXFML file with your favorite text editor (even Notepad works) and look for lines containing strings like decoration="0,0". Replace the zeros with appropriate decoration IDs, save the LXFML file, re-zip it and rename the ZIP-file back to LXF. Thus you can use "hidden" decorations that are included in LDD but not accessible via GUI. I probably don´t understand enough, how to edit the LXFML file. I opened the file in notepad and there are the lines with decoration="0,0". What are the "appropriate decoration IDs" ? It is some of the numbers in the row? How I know, which "hiden" decoration is on this line? Could you please post some example line before and after editing? I´m just starting with LDD, and just because of my son want to use it (I prefer the real Lego ). So please apologize, if my question is stupid. or I overlooked something what is on this forum in another thread. Thank you in advance for answer. Edited January 28, 2014 by Jindrich Quote
pbat Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I probably don´t understand enough, how to edit the LXFML file. I opened the file in notepad and there are the lines with decoration="0,0". What are the "appropriate decoration IDs" ? It is some of the numbers in the row? How I know, which "hiden" decoration is on this line? Could you please post some example line before and after editing? I´m just starting with LDD, and just because of my son want to use it (I prefer the real Lego ). So please apologize, if my question is stupid. or I overlooked something what is on this forum in another thread. Thank you in advance for answer. To apply "hidden" decorations, ignore the rest of the lines. You just have to replace the zero(s) after decoration= with other valid numbers: One zero indicates that this brick has one decorateable surface but is currently undecorated; two comma-separated zeros indicate that this brick has two decorateable surfaces, but is currently undecorated; guess what three comma-separated zeros indicate... So, a zero is a non-decoration; by replacing it with valid decoration IDs, LDD renders that decoration onto that brick. Bricks that don't have the decoration= string in their line cannot be decorated at all: It's no use adding such a string, since no decoration surfaces are defined for that brick ID. It's a bit tricky to figure out what decoration IDs are actually valid. Reading the threads linked in my previous post may be a good start. At least those threads helped me a lot. However, it will remain a matter of trial and error nonetheless: If you apply invalid decoration IDs nothing harmful happens, LDD won't crash, but simply doesn't show anything and the brick remains undecorated. I have not yet seen valid decoration IDs that don't have 5 or 6 digits; below in the Spoiler are 1509 decoration IDs I know that are working in 4.3.8. I don't know, however, if that list is complete and if that are all decorations currently in LDD, or if others do exist I have not yet found. 54580 54581 54582 54584 54585 54594 54595 55034 55035 55059 55071 55072 55122 55123 55124 55125 55126 55127 55128 55129 55130 55132 55146 55148 55159 55160 55161 55175 55196 55347 55350 55357 55506 55510 55511 55513 55518 55660 55661 55662 55663 55665 55703 55728 55729 56006 56057 56098 56134 56287 56288 56289 56518 56571 56753 56756 56918 57056 57239 57308 57336 57497 57592 57755 57756 57818 58000 58002 58229 58425 58465 58592 58596 58603 58764 58812 58858 59487 59488 59545 59631 59632 59645 59715 59717 59878 59879 59881 59909 60114 60147 60153 60382 60488 60690 60763 61820 62292 62293 62375 62452 62453 63078 63079 63179 63181 63187 63189 63191 63193 63195 63197 63199 63201 63204 63205 63380 63404 63708 63712 63815 64274 64352 64353 64354 64355 64356 64357 64358 64359 64360 64361 64362 64363 64364 64366 64635 64891 64901 64913 64968 64998 70000 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Jindrich Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Thank you. I have another question. How I know, which of theese 1509 decorations are which? Isn´t somewhere some list divided by themes? 1509 is really enough to test one by one. Thank you in advance for answer. EDIT: Now I understand little bit more. I can easy get the numbers for each decoration from reference files. Probably something really heavy standed on my cables. Edited January 31, 2014 by Jindrich Quote
Courleciel Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Bricks that don't have the decoration= string in their line cannot be decorated at all: It's no use adding such a string, since no decoration surfaces are defined for that brick ID. I'm trying to apply decorations on a few slopes curved. So, does it mean that we cannot apply a decoration on this kind of parts (as LDD doesn't propose any decoration for these parts) ? Edited January 29, 2014 by Courleciel Quote
Calabar Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 @Courleciel Yes, you can apply decorations only on "decorable surfaces". So only bricks that have one or more decorable surfaces can be decorated. Quote
Courleciel Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Ok, thank. Also, is there any way to change LDD code in order to add decorable surfaces ? Quote
Calabar Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 No, it infringes the EULA and is not allowed (see the Section Rules about this). Quote
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