Madoca 1977 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Sorry for my English skill. Every time when I build a car, it is difficult for me to make A pillar. Car's pillar must be rigid and sturdy in real life. There are some ways known to Technic builders. Wikipedia Pillar (automobile) For example, 1. Combination of axles and flexible ones. (set 8070) 2. Toggle joint. (set 9398) This causes weak construction, I think. 3. Angle connectors with pin connectors. https://plus.google....167471864977943 This is my latest creation. https://plus.google....167471864977943 Recently I was very impressed by Victor Kojenov's Arctic Explorer. Simple, and no gaps on the roof! http://farm8.staticf...12a7026fa_o.jpg Is there anything new solution to the issue of both shape and rigidity? Edited January 23, 2014 by Jim Added link to Wikipedia and image Quote
jantjeuh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Seems like your google plus album is not accessible yet? Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 Sorry. I just shared the picture. https://plus.google....167471864977943 Quote
Hrafn Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Your creation looks good. H Yes, I don't know that you'll be able to make it any better with Technic parts - A-pillars are tough. You might be able to use some of the Mixels / Chima Legend Beast ball joint sockets, or maybe System hinges (especially click hinges that connect to Technic axles), but yours is probably about as good as is possible. Quote
JGW3000 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 The 41999 / 9398 A-pillar keeps getting disconnecting. If the 41999 wasn't so special, I'd modify it. Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 Thanks for your opinions. In most cases, toggle joint parts are connected by small non-friction pin. That connection is weak. Chima/Bionicle female ball joint is 2 stud wide and too thick for Technic car pillar or roof. Some hinge parts seem to be better solution. But they are not common in Technic sets... http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=30552 http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=30553 Especially this one. http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=41532 Quote
jantjeuh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Have you checked out the ball joint sockets in the Mixels 2014 sets? Not sure if they have been released already. Here's a picture: http://toysnbricks.c...te-1024x619.jpg P.S.: Madoca, I'm a HUGE fan of your MOCs. They are very, very well designed. You should consider putting them on Rebrickable, so that they get more exposure, and people can easily see if they have all the parts required. Edited January 23, 2014 by jantjeuh Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Thank you, jantjeuh. Is it necessary to make LDD/LDraw files for Rebrickable? I'm not good at CAD files and some parts are not available in LDD. Edited January 23, 2014 by Madoca 1977 Quote
jantjeuh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) No, that's not necessary at all. All you need is a parts list (many formats are supported), and a link to the instructions (in any form, your photo instructions will do fine). Edited January 23, 2014 by jantjeuh Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 No, that's not necessary at all. All you need is a parts list (many formats are supported), and a link to the instructions (in any form, your photo instructions will do fine). I will try Rebrickable! Please give me a few days. (or weeks, maybe...) Quote
jantjeuh Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Good to hear If you need any help, let me know. Quote
Doc_Brown Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Good topic! I too wonder about that and will be tackling it soon as well. If I'm honest, I think this is tricky to get good looks and strength, probably only thu connectors is that possible at medium scale mocs. Looking forward to seeing you mocs on rebrickable! :thumbup: these new mixel parts look amazing! I'm thinking suspension if they fit nicely in the existing ball sockets we have. Quote
Junpei Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 The first thing I thought of when I saw the Mixels ball joints was suspension; however, they probably won't work for small models as they have far too much friction (they're more oriented towards poseable figures, mini mecha, etc.). TLH Quote
Hrafn Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Thanks for your opinions. In most cases, toggle joint parts are connected by small non-friction pin. That connection is weak. Chima/Bionicle female ball joint is 2 stud wide and too thick for Technic car pillar or roof. Some hinge parts seem to be better solution. But they are not common in Technic sets... http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=30552 http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=30553 Especially this one. http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=41532 Those are the hinge parts I was thinking of. They're not common in Technic, no, but they're cheap on BrickLink. As long as you're working in black or gray, they're useful. The ball joints I was thinking of are the Mixels ones, as mentioned by others; those are only 1 stud wide. Quote
steph77 Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 Hi Madoca, For your A pillar, i use suspention link 6L with ball joint. Like this: Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 Suspension link with ball joint can put A-pillar in any angle. I like your idea! But I can use the link 9L, 6L, or new 5L steering arm... Wait, if I use the new steering arm as a part of hood or roof, I can connect any size of liftarms combined with towball pin(6628). Quote
steph77 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Pleased to see it has been usefull Hmmm, what are you working on, this time? Quote
Erik Leppen Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 On my hypercar I used liftarms to ensure a strong "hull" construction. It worked surprisingly well :) Quote
jantjeuh Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 On my hypercar I used liftarms to ensure a strong "hull" construction. It worked surprisingly well :) That's a pretty cool looking car. First time I've seen it. Quote
Madoca 1977 Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 On my hypercar I used liftarms to ensure a strong "hull" construction. It worked surprisingly well :) Looks good! I think liftarms are better for large scale models required strong construction like rm8's Toyota Land Cruiser Prado.https://lh6.googleus...3_%25201_44.jpg Quote
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