Bricksan Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 This is a list of events what went down and is the best we will get without Cuusoo making an official statement. -Brick Queen posted two Jurassic Park entries on Cuusoo and she getting a lot of support for that -two other members also posted Jurassic Park entries on Cuusoo, with entries partially similar to those of Brick Queen -Brick Queen was very upset because of that and she and some of her followers started accusing those other two of plagiarism and stealing attention -in course of heated up action on the comments section Brick Queen opened several other accounts on Cuusoo and started using them for insults and and accusations -Cuusoo admins noted that and banned her account and removed all her Cuusoo entries -Brick Queen posted "crying" video and she and some of her followers started campaign over several AFOL sites to make her look the victim.
kermit Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Now that makes sense cuusoo wouldnt ban someone without good reason. It is just a shame and embarrassment when guilty people incite other's blind judgment to believe they are innocent and use these people to carry out their devious plans. Edited August 23, 2013 by kermit
BlueberryWaffles Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Okay, this BrickQueen crap is ridiculous. Posting a similar project? Not that bad. But making new accounts to shoot down the other guy, then making a sob video so 10,000 8 year olds post junk on comments and get them shut down. Someone posted "BRING BRICKQUEEN BACK IT'S NOT FAAAAAAAAAAIR" on m.togami's UCS DeLorean project. That has NOTHING to do with his project. And I do not want stupid reviewer drama shutting down his comments.
Paul Boratko Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I don't quite understand how BrickQueen or anyone of her minions could accuse anyone of stealing her projects... I mean her themes were Batman and Jurassic Park.. Those aren't exactly unique ideas... This Jurassic Park project is from April of 2012 And this was hers from a few weeks ago I am failing to see where she can possibly come out and start blaming people for stealing her ideas... And these are the 2 projects that recently came under fire from her brigade of minions because they supposedly stole her idea... This one below is just excellent Edited August 23, 2013 by Paul Boratko
Paul Boratko Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) The guy who built the bottom project goes by the name of senteosan and he had to remove his website and information from Cuusoo because of all of the threats that he was getting... Now here is a serious question that no one on the BrickQueen end will answer... If she was banned so easily because of some new guy with a project similar to hers was having his "Friends" Flag her account, then why hasn't senteosan's account been banned considering that he has had to have had 1000's of Flags and Reports since BrickQueen uploaded her sympathy video..? If BrickQueen has any integrity or morals at all, she will take down her video that is inciting chaos for both the Cussoo staff as well as the people on Cuusoo that are getting trashed by her "Fans" Edited August 23, 2013 by Paul Boratko
lightningtiger Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 All this talk of copying other people's designs made me think back.......last year when I saw Pekko's mini shops project I thought to my self they look a bit like something I knocked up back in 2010, of course a few months after Pekko's was posted I posted my old designs.....no problems were had there. Though when I think about it again, could have Pekko taken inspiration from my work two years before his Cuusoo entry, those buildings were posted here on EB, Brickshelf, MOCpages and ANZFOL......I guess I'll never know, but really it doesn't worry me. I have learnt that Cuusoo can not be taken seriously, supports are given by people who want too.....though fan-dom rapid voting to 10K can sometimes tick me off, but that's life and everyone sees things from different points of view..
Meatman Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 This is a list of events what went down and is the best we will get without Cuusoo making an official statement. -Brick Queen posted two Jurassic Park entries on Cuusoo and she getting a lot of support for that -two other members also posted Jurassic Park entries on Cuusoo, with entries partially similar to those of Brick Queen -Brick Queen was very upset because of that and she and some of her followers started accusing those other two of plagiarism and stealing attention -in course of heated up action on the comments section Brick Queen opened several other accounts on Cuusoo and started using them for insults and and accusations -Cuusoo admins noted that and banned her account and removed all her Cuusoo entries -Brick Queen posted "crying" video and she and some of her followers started campaign over several AFOL sites to make her look the victim. I would say this is a pretty good theory on what happened. I have been reading into this Brickqueen person and they seem like a very unlikable person who consistently creates drama in whatever they do. She got caught and should deal with it like an adult, not like a child. She actually posted several times in her pathetic "I am the Victim" video that she contacted Lego Customer Support about her Cuusoo account being banned. You guys get that? Lego Customer Support. I don't think Lego Cuusoo will ever release an actual statement of why she was banned to avoid any further embarrassment for her. Their silence is actually telling the story. And has anyone seen that she actually did reviews wearing some sort of Princess Leia slave outfit? What in the heck was that all about? No wonder she has 50,000 12 year old subscribers. And if I ever catch either one of my sons making sympathy videos in ressponse for someone's pathetic crying video on youtube, there is going to be heck to pay. Heck I tell ya!
Wodanis Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It should be noted that if a person does get their project produced you get 1% of all sales...
Meatman Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) It should be noted that if a person does get their project produced you get 1% of all sales... That is just it, getting it produced. I don't think anything she did had a chance, especially the already license Batman projects. Didn't Cussoo say on many occasions that already licensed projects were basically dead in the water and they would not produce sets or ideas of themes that were already in existence? All of the preteens are raving over how much better Brickqueen's J.P. projects were and how great her Batman projects were, but I have to be honest, looking over them, I fail to see the hype behind any of them. They are borderline average. Edited August 23, 2013 by Meatman
Wodanis Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 That is just it, getting it produced. I don't think anything she did had a chance, especially the already license Batman projects. Didn't Cussoo say on many occasions that already licensed projects were basically dead in the water and they would not produce sets or ideas of themes that were already in existence? All of the preteens are raving over how much better Brickqueen's J.P. projects were and how great her Batman projects were, but I have to be honest, looking over them, I fail to see the hype behind any of them. They are borderline average. I would agree. There wasn't anything special in her presentations, just use of licensed ideas from movies. I don't get the hype either other than her notoriety on youtube.
Faefrost Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 I would agree. There wasn't anything special in her presentations, just use of licensed ideas from movies. I don't get the hype either other than her notoriety on youtube. I mostly agree. The Batman sets were dead on arrival. (Seriously guys ANY Batman set is DOA.) The first JP set had some hope as it was a good and reasonable size and layout for the key scene in the movie. Her builds aren't the absolute best, but they were presented well enough and she had a good community mechanism to get her project known and supported. Which is the bulk of the battle on CuuSoo. It isn't who can make the best MOC. It's who can drive the most positive eyeballs to look at your project.
Meatman Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I mostly agree. The Batman sets were dead on arrival. (Seriously guys ANY Batman set is DOA.) The first JP set had some hope as it was a good and reasonable size and layout for the key scene in the movie. Her builds aren't the absolute best, but they were presented well enough and she had a good community mechanism to get her project known and supported. Which is the bulk of the battle on CuuSoo. It isn't who can make the best MOC. It's who can drive the most positive eyeballs to look at your project. This is what she's using to drive eyeballs though. And then she's turning around and using that same advantage for pity and to make people excuse the fact that she didn't follow the guidelines at Cuusoo. Edited August 23, 2013 by Meatman
Faefrost Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 This is what she's using to drive eyeballs though. And then she's turning around and using that same advantage for pity and to make people excuse the fact that she didn't follow the guidelines at Cuusoo. Dude, I hate to be critical, but you seem to be spending the past two days spread across several message boards tearing apart some Internet girl that you claim to have only just discovered. You complain about the rage of Her 12 yo fan boys but are doing exactly the same thing? This entire thing is between her and CuuSoo. It has nothing to do with us. It certainly has nothing to do with whether or not she chose to use Cosplay in a Star Wars review video. What? She's an evil woman seducing all of these naive Lego fans with her feminine wiles? Give me a break already. She may or may not have her own personal issues. But honestly that's none of our concern. If you look around here you will find that most AFOL's are at best mildly unbalanced, and more often crazier than a bag of cats. (Except me. I'm perfectly sane and have the papers to prove it). What is our concern is how we treat our female fellow fans. I would certainly like to hope that at a minimum we treat them better than the video game community does. Although looking at your post I fear I am way too optimistic.
Meatman Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 I did a simple search to find out a bit more about her and this is the stuff that came up. I haven't posted anywhere else about this issue other than a few posts at Youtube which were deleted. I just don't think that it is fair to the people who are trying to legitimately accomplish something at Cuusoo that there are people out there manipulating the system. And where is my video enraging people? I am just stating simple facts that I had discovered and thought were quite relevant. I didn't create a bold faced thread about this for everyone to see, I just added to an already existing one. This has nothing to do with female builders or female fans of Lego, this is about certain females using their gender to gain an advantage all while also using it as a crutch.
Paul Boratko Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 At this point, this is a dead issue... The guilty have been punished... No need to drag anyone down further than they already are... When this video first hit, I was quick to jump on and defend the honor of women builders, but after more facts came out it seems that I really didn't need to do that at all...
ShaydDeGrai Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It should be noted that if a person does get their project produced you get 1% of all sales... In academia we had an adage "the battles are so bitter because the stakes are so small." Even properly attributing the quote is fiercely debated to this day, Henry Kissinger, Woodrow Wilson and Wallace Sayre each have their own die-hard fan-boys...) I think too many people try to justify really bad behavior in the name of protecting their "big chance" at a 1% royalty payoff as if their idea were going to fly through review and bring in millions of dollars in royalties. Let's face it, CuuSoo is many things, but none of them are a get rich quick avenue to an early retirement. If you had a dollar from everyone who voted to get your project to 10,000 support, you'd probably make three times as much money as you'll actually see from that 1% royalty IF the kit actually makes it into production. It's not rocket science here. Historically, CuuSoo kits have a run of 10,000 units and Minecraft and BTTF each sold for 35USD, that translates to a 3,500USD payday for the designer, or about the cost of a dozen high-end LEGO kits. Moreover, just getting to 10k doesn't guarantee you a penny. Historically most projects fail review and (quietly or not) die. Seriously, do YouTube, CuuSoo and the online AFOL communities really need to be rending themselves into bitter little factions over this? I'm not going to takes sides over who did what, when and to whom other than to say, in general terms 1) plagiarism - bad, 2) creativity - good, 3) inspiration can come from anywhere, and 4) no idea is as unique or original as most "conceivers" think it is. There are probably extenuating circumstances that we'll never know the truth about (and dozens of supposed "insiders" who will push their own opinions as fact whenever given the opportunity) but unless you personally happen to _be_ one of the parties wronged (or duly punished) or one of the CuuSoo team trying to clean up the mess - does it really matter? It's done and it weren't for all the whining, accusations, threats and other internet excrement most people wouldn't even notice it ever happened. Let's just move on and let this issue suffer the quiet passing it deserves. The only thing a Court of Public Opinion usually proves is how uninformed the general public is and how powerful charisma and propaganda can be.
lightningtiger Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It should be noted that if a person does get their project produced you get 1% of all sales... Gee, this one line is getting quoted a lot today eh ? Now as part of posting a project on Cuusoo, the designer/poster must sign over his or her design over to Lego.......just because your design doesn't make 10K, doesn't also mean it won't be produced in some other form by the use of inspiration based redesigning of one's project. Don't think for a moment that Lego's different design teams don't have a good look at Cuusoo to see what fresh angles they can give to their respected themes.
Paul Boratko Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Gee, this one line is getting quoted a lot today eh ? Now as part of posting a project on Cuusoo, the designer/poster must sign over his or her design over to Lego.......just because your design doesn't make 10K, doesn't also mean it won't be produced in some other form by the use of inspiration based redesigning of one's project. Don't think for a moment that Lego's different design teams don't have a good look at Cuusoo to see what fresh angles they can give to their respected themes. This is an excellent point... I was warned by a very good friend about this when I was contemplating submitting something for Cuusoo.... Edited August 23, 2013 by Paul Boratko
kermit Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I remember when cussoo first began it was an effort by lego to listen to the fans. The people at lego were once kids themselves and at one point dreamt of lego making the sets that they imagined in their minds. Many lego fans began voicing their desires through the internet and mail to lego on set ideas that they think would be good and would like to see. Lego realized that it was impossible to read through all these forums, emails and letters of the thousands of lego fans that had great ideas, so they decided to make a program where fans dreams can actually come through and instead of having the problems of having to go through millions of ideas let the lego fans vote amongst themselves and let them choose which ones should be given a consideration. A form of democracy if you may to reward lego fans. These ideals were great like the knights of the round table defending England and seeking out justice for all. The sand crawler project is one example of these great ideas that lots of lego fans wanted made and was given a possibility of becoming reality through cussoo. Now these ideals have seem to fade to black and become overshadowed not by the grand search for wealth from these ideas but FAME by a ''selected'' few. Now cussoo appears to be driven by the whip of ''selected'' individuals who seek celebrity status and fandom by having their projects made. This is just my general opinion on cussoo and doesnt reflect on any particular person`s cussoo`s project. This is how ridiculous it has gotten but it did make me laugh though. Edited August 23, 2013 by kermit
lightningtiger Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It's also thanks to fan-dom and social media that this might also be the problem, though it does bring Cuusoo into the public arena. More than once if not scoring supports, I at least scored a higher view count thanks to Facebook....though with my 27 projects I know in my heart I'll never see any of them reach 10K. But still I will continue with Cuusoo, maybe one day I'll look on a toy store shelf and see a city set that looks similar to one of my designs......then I'll think...gee, did I do something right to inspire someone else ?
CM4Sci Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 This is how ridiculous it has gotten but it did make me laugh though. That's just... -Sci
Paul Boratko Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 If they hold true to their word, I forsee a whole lot of sadness under the tree for little Cristopher this Christmas...
lightningtiger Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 Well, that least the kid was cute saying something.....but seriously Lego is scared of just two people saying they won't buy any more Lego......they would go, big deal.....plenty morefish or kids in the sea ! Hopefully, Cuusoo is not heading down the wrong path......because we would hate to lose this valued way of getting fresh ideas flowing forth in the Lego world.
Faefrost Posted August 23, 2013 Posted August 23, 2013 It's also thanks to fan-dom and social media that this might also be the problem, though it does bring Cuusoo into the public arena. More than once if not scoring supports, I at least scored a higher view count thanks to Facebook....though with my 27 projects I know in my heart I'll never see any of them reach 10K. But still I will continue with Cuusoo, maybe one day I'll look on a toy store shelf and see a city set that looks similar to one of my designs......then I'll think...gee, did I do something right to inspire someone else ? FanDom and social media isn't a problem with CuuSoo. It's a core element of the platform. CuuSoo is meant to be a crowd sourcing based undertaking. It's bundled into it's very DNA. Cross promoting via other forms of social media is part and parcel. As is leveraging other social media comunities in support of your ideas.
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