BrickG Posted January 19, 2017 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) I started watching this again. Started where I left off in the middle of season 2. This show is just sooo stupid. I swear everything every character does is just idiotic. It's made for kids yeah but I'd have the same complaint if I was a kid. Everyone is just so dumb and every action just dumb. Finishing blows by bad guys are constantly not finishing blows. Have this Jedi dude disabled? Want to kill him? Lets kick him instead of sabering him! Doesn't matter if there's no reason a sabre wouldn't be just as easy. Lets make our jobs as difficult as possible. Everyone has terrible aim. The goodguys have selectively terrible aim but also have complete immunity. It's ridiculous how often they are just standing still, shooting, with NO cover and the Stormtroopers STILL can't hit them. That is something The Clone Wars did too and it was so freakin' ridiculously bad. There's logic holes everywhere. I mean the latest one I saw was the idiotic probe droids that lady uses. Guarding a door? Lets slowly just turn around back and forth so there's huge openings in our guarding! Ignore the fact that you can just fly up somewhere and hide and LOOK at said door to see if anyone gets through. There's like 10 each episode. This is a dumb show written by dumb people for dumb people. Heh well I don't mean to insult you guys, I'm sure you're NOT dumb. I just feel like this show is so mind bogglingly dumb though. This show is just too much. And WHY did they choose this voice actress for Leia? Doesn't sound anything like her! Her voice is now generic. Anyways, I hate everything Dan Fanwhatever does with Star Wars. He's the most talentless and terrible guy there is. I hate his hat and he's the worst thing to happen to Star Wars since the Prequels. Heck, I think the Prequels are better than these TV shows. Well, okay I'm trolling. I enjoyed about 1 out of every 10 Clone Wars episodes I guess. Probably less with Rebels though. If I wasn't sleep deprived and approaching 48 hours of no sleep I could make a more intelligently written post. But the point is this show is soooo bad. SOOOO BAD. I wish they just killed Rebels when DIsney bought Star Wars like they killed The Clone Wars. EDIT: And I've gotta say. The voice acting is really bad sometimes. Sounds like they're just casually reading lines. I guess that's mainly the non-main characters anyways. EDIT 2: Haha I'm perhaps really harsh right now because I'm sick! In a bad mood! I guess it's about 10x worse when I'm in a bad mood! EDIT 3: Nope. Ignore edit 2. It IS that bad. Just watched an episode. I rewound to count. So these Stormtroopers were shooting at Chopper and another Rebel. The Stormtroopers were roughly 30 feet away. Chopper and dude weren't moving at all really. Just some head turns. No cover. They're directly in the line of fire. The Stormtroopers, multiple of them, spent 15 seconds firing at immobile, uncovered, completely open targets. They could not hit them. I don't know why anyone fears the Empire. Edited January 19, 2017 by BrickG Quote
Japanbuilder Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 22 hours ago, BrickG said: *snipped for length* I agree with your sentiments here. 2 and a half seasons in and common now. Someone from the main crew needs to go. Still this is a complaint actually not unique to Rebels. Most American content for children is devoid of death galore and most English-based storytelling is actually devoid of heroes being offed too. Rewind to reaction of ESB from back in the day where the heroes are trounced from beginning to end. Lots of people could not believe that was how ESB ended. Recall the non bloodshed of full on firefights on GI-Joe from back in the day or the harmless adventures of He-Man and crew. Recall also the recoiling horror of children when robots were actually slain in the Transformers Movie after a few seasons of bloodless encounters at the hands of the Decepticons. Unless Disney decides that it would be good for them to move production rights to say Production I.G. or some other studio that has no beef with animating the death of main characters then this is just the state of entertainment for children we have always had. Quote
BrickG Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 Star Wars Rebels: http://i.imgur.com/mbOmzKg.gifv Except that storm trooper would hit you at least twice... Quote
xboxtravis7992 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Japanbuilder said: Still this is a complaint actually not unique to Rebels. Most American content for children is devoid of death galore and most English-based storytelling is actually devoid of heroes being offed too. Rewind to reaction of ESB from back in the day where the heroes are trounced from beginning to end. Lots of people could not believe that was how ESB ended. Since I think it is pretty common knowledge by now I will say this; the inclusion of the Ghost in Rogue One makes me think that this series will see a tonal shift right before it finishes. Rogue One is pretty grim; and lots of characters die, so if that is what Rebels is building towards I expect there to be a moment towards the final season when things will "get real," someone will die; and the Rebels crew will be pushed closer and closer to their final fate in the Battle of Scariff. The fact we don't see the Ghost after the battle in the movie makes me think either a) The ship was damaged and the crew had to escape the battle before the Devastator arrived, or b) the Ghost was destroyed out right in the battle, and the entire crew of Rebels bit the dust then and there. Something has to be done to explain their lack of presence in later films. While the Ghost on the run from the Empire after the Battle of Scariff explains why they wouldn't have been at the Battle of Yavin, it doesn't explain why they weren't on Hoth or Endor later on. As much as I want most of the Rebels cast to survive the series, the story they are trying to tell makes me think things will get very grim very quick when the moment arrives. Quote
quark12000 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 Why do people think the entire rebellion is in the movies? This must be a broad, wide-ranging movement, or there's no way it could sustain itself. The whole rebellion is not at Yavin or Hoth. Quote
xboxtravis7992 Posted January 20, 2017 Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, quark12000 said: Why do people think the entire rebellion is in the movies? This must be a broad, wide-ranging movement, or there's no way it could sustain itself. The whole rebellion is not at Yavin or Hoth. Well... http://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-rebels-easter-eggs-and-connections-in-rogue-one Quote
The Brick King Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 The newest episode is fantastic, real Clone-Wars caliber stuff. I won't go into to much detail, but I always love it when the Kanan-Sabine dynamic is explored, and this episode showed a new facet of this relationship. And the voice acting was on point. Tiya Sircar (Sabine) was especially great. It is probably the best so far of the season. Quote
ChiefPie Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 I enjoyed the newest episode yet I felt it was very short. I'm also disappointed that we have another hiatus. We will have to wait till Feburary 18th before the season continues.. Quote
rollermonkey Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) On 1/18/2017 at 11:21 PM, BrickG said: I wish they just killed Rebels when DIsney bought Star Wars like they killed The Clone Wars. Are you actually a Star Wars fan, or are you just trolling? Rebels didn't exist before Disney bought the Star Wars property. Edited January 22, 2017 by rollermonkey Quote
RetroInferno Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) We don't know what's the protagonist purpose and we are in season 3. 90% filler up until now and I have absolutly not a single clue about what the finale is going to be except including Thrawn looking like a smartass letting them escape for the 7th time. Most episodes are trivial stories, with some obscure references sparkled here and there, Member Berries style ( Member Lando, Princess Leia, Dark Troopers? ). Latest episode, Sabine is a total lightsaber noob with inner conflicts, gets her megablocks whopped by Kanan, whinned and managed to beat him and now you must BEND the knee to the cyborg queen. The writers screwed up at the get go by not indroducing a real purpose with the antagonist, giving us passable side kicks and a complete and utter lack of things at stake. Member writting 101? I member. Please also note the abbysmal viewership, one FOURTH of what Clone Wars had in general. Edited January 22, 2017 by RetroInferno Quote
Kintobor Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 On January 20, 2017 at 10:40 AM, xboxtravis7992 said: Long post, did read, though. I think the crew of the Ghost won't be together by the end of the series. Something is going to push this group apart, and my money's on Ezra doing something stupid/selfish. Sabine will probably begin spearheading a Mandalorian resistance, therefore meaning she can no longer be involved with the crew, Rex and Zeb are, in my mind, dead men walking at this point along with General Sato, and Kanan will probably go into seclusion. The only members of the crew left are Hera and Chopper. I can see Hera biting the dust at the Battle of Scariff, although this is coming from someone who hasn't seen Rogue One yet (I know, you can ready your throwing arms, I await your vegetables). Honestly though, I'd like to see the Ghost crew survive for the most part, if only because there's more in my mind that they can do alive, especially Ezra and Sabine, seeing how they're at an age where they could feasible still be active around the time the First Order first appears. We know after this season Rebels is over and a new show will take it's place. I'm honestly hoping for something between episodes Six and Seven, since a lot of it is uncharted waters, and there's a lot that could be done in that thirty five year time frame. Whatever happens though, from what I've heard about Rogue One, Rebels is building up to something, and it won't end well. Quote
BrickG Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 10 hours ago, rollermonkey said: Are you actually a Star Wars fan, or are you just trolling? Rebels didn't exist before Disney bought the Star Wars property. Star Wars is one of my favorite things. Love IV, V, VI, VII. Can live with II, III. Don't like I or Rebels or 90% of Clone Wars. Rebels was in the early planning stages when Disney bought Star Wars wasn't it? I thought it was. I'm not trolling. I just don't think it should exist. Quote
xboxtravis7992 Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, Kintobor said: I think the crew of the Ghost won't be together by the end of the series. Something is going to push this group apart, and my money's on Ezra doing something stupid/selfish. Sabine will probably begin spearheading a Mandalorian resistance, therefore meaning she can no longer be involved with the crew, Rex and Zeb are, in my mind, dead men walking at this point along with General Sato, and Kanan will probably go into seclusion. The only members of the crew left are Hera and Chopper. I can see Hera biting the dust at the Battle of Scariff, although this is coming from someone who hasn't seen Rogue One yet (I know, you can ready your throwing arms, I await your vegetables). Honestly though, I'd like to see the Ghost crew survive for the most part, if only because there's more in my mind that they can do alive, especially Ezra and Sabine, seeing how they're at an age where they could feasible still be active around the time the First Order first appears. We know after this season Rebels is over and a new show will take it's place. I'm honestly hoping for something between episodes Six and Seven, since a lot of it is uncharted waters, and there's a lot that could be done in that thirty five year time frame. Whatever happens though, from what I've heard about Rogue One, Rebels is building up to something, and it won't end well. I see a lot of what you said happening, except the idea that Rex will be one of the first characters to bite the dust. I sort of am interested in a fan theory Dave Finoli seems to be hinting is true; where Rex survives to the Battle of Endor. (A sort of explanation of that theory is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz6lJizHghI ). I don't think this season is the end of Rebels, but I can only see it going one or two more seasons. Rebels, just like The Clone Wars; has the issue that it is sandwiched between two of the films (Ep II and III for Clone Wars, Ep III and Rogue One/Ep. IV for Rebels). That just means the closer we get to the events of Rogue One, the sooner we will see the end of Rebels. Current advertising for the show hints that the threat of Thrawn will be what forces the scattered Rebel cells into one unified Alliance; which means all the pieces are in place for Rogue One. I figure we could get one more season just to introduce a few more Rogue One stuff (Chopper meets K-2SO please!!!) and then I think the series will end on Rogue One revealing the fate of the crew. Also the way you quoted me "Long post, I did read it" made me chuckle. Quote
Forresto Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Month long break till the next episode if you live in the States. This was a top notch episode though, one of the finest Rebels has done yet. The character development of Sabine had me a little choked up, surprisingly. I liked everyone even...*shudders* Ezra. He was a jerk as usual but I could see the appeal more. As for the show I give it maybe two more seasons at most for a five season total. It would make sense as they are most likely doing Scarif as the series finale. I'm sort've looking forward to the next series they make. Don't get me wrong I enjoy rebels a lot, despite my grumbles, but i'm always concerned each episode of whether they will handle characters correctly. Always asking does this fit with the Original Trilogy? I'm hoping we get a series set in either the Old Republic period or between the OT and ST, set in a time period not established in the current canon that we know absolutely nothing about. A new frontier if you will. When I played KOTOR for the first time last year it was a strange and wonderful feeling. I felt the nostalgic wonder of the OT in a familiar universe while at the same time feeling I know absolutely nothing. That's what I want in a new series, something that's barely restrained by the current canon that can go a little wild with new concepts and enemies. Quote
rollermonkey Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 14 hours ago, BrickG said: Star Wars is one of my favorite things. Love IV, V, VI, VII. Can live with II, III. Don't like I or Rebels or 90% of Clone Wars. Rebels was in the early planning stages when Disney bought Star Wars wasn't it? I thought it was. I'm not trolling. I just don't think it should exist. Nah. Clone Wars was still rolling when Disney bought in. They immediately cancelled it, which is why the final season wasn't shown in all markets. They started development of Rebels to get the property off of Cartoon Network in the US and onto the Disney Channel, it just landed on XD instead of the main channel. Quote
ChiefPie Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I believe Rebels will be 5 seasons long. Season 3 is 2 years before the battle of yavin. Season 4 will then be set in 1 bby. Season 5 will probably be in the same year as the battle of yavin and it will probably build up to the the battle of scarif which we may see through the view of the ghost crew as Dave Filoni had mentioned he would like to do that. Quote
Kintobor Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Okay, so apparently I was wrong and season four is in the works. Whoops. Anyways, I'll echo sentiments being said here. "Trials of the Darksaber" was fantastic, and the one month hiatus sucks. After the hiatus we get more Mandolorian stuff in "Legacy of Mandalore", which is always fun, and that's followed up by "Through Imperial Eyes", which sounds like our friendly Rebel Fulcrum agent might be finding himself in hot water very, very soon. Quote
quark12000 Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 On 1/22/2017 at 9:52 AM, BrickG said: Star Wars is one of my favorite things. Love IV, V, VI, VII. Can live with II, III. Don't like I or Rebels or 90% of Clone Wars. Rebels was in the early planning stages when Disney bought Star Wars wasn't it? I thought it was. I'm not trolling. I just don't think it should exist. Okay. Please feel free to ignore the show and this thread. Those of us who like it would like to be able to talk about it without trollish comments. Quote
Artanis I Posted January 24, 2017 Posted January 24, 2017 It felt strange to 'just now' learn Sabine's history halfway through the 3rd series. We've been flying around in a little spaceship for 2.5 years not knowing her much, with everyone else's back story already explained. Was curious briefly seeing the Bendu, I thought it was going to do something later in the episode. Will be interesting to see how she goes when she returns from exile to wield the sword and unite the free people of Middle Earth Mandalorian clans. Quote
TeufelHund Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 I think Rebels would be better served by shorter seasons (ala the first series). 20 episode seasons seem to mean we're often treading water with filler episodes. These can be fun, and even rewarding if they actual feed into later storylines (like when Zeb and Ezra stole a tie fighter in an early episode which turned out being pivotal in the series finale in Season 1) but when the main plotline of your episode involves saving space whales you should be asking yourself just why you're bothering in the first place. Quote
Forresto Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Oh goodness not the space whales...ick nothing could prepare me for that episode which essentially ripped off Dishonored. What worked in Dunwall doesn't translate to Star Wars. Quote
RetroInferno Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Making longer episodes instead of many shorter ones would be nice too. Or make them follow a story arc. At any rate I don't think this show will go on after season 4, the viewership is abyssmally low. Quote
Forresto Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 12 hours ago, RetroInferno said: Making longer episodes instead of many shorter ones would be nice too. Or make them follow a story arc. At any rate I don't think this show will go on after season 4, the viewership is abyssmally low. Is it?t tbh thats the fault of scheduling I think. You cant have as many episode breaks as Rebels has without losing people. We had a two month long break then only get FOUR episodes before another month long break? If it wasnt for my interest in how things on it played out i'd be done and wait to watch it on dvd at the library. Quote
RetroInferno Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Forresto said: Is it?t tbh thats the fault of scheduling I think. You cant have as many episode breaks as Rebels has without losing people. We had a two month long break then only get FOUR episodes before another month long break? If it wasnt for my interest in how things on it played out i'd be done and wait to watch it on dvd at the library. It's basically down to a fourth of what Clone Wars used to have views on average, season 3 being the lowest ( some episodes got 36k-37k views ). The show's pacing is indeed atrocious. Quote
xboxtravis7992 Posted January 30, 2017 Posted January 30, 2017 Disney XD is also carried on less cable/satellite plans as Cartoon Network. I was able to watch every single The Clone Wars episode when they aired since Cartoon Network was easily accessible. My parents downgraded the satellite plan just before I could start watching Rebels, so now without Disney XD; I have to wait for the DVD release. Honestly I am surprised Disney didn't put Rebels on Disney Channel, which is included in more plans than XD is. Then again it seems Disney is trying to "demographically segregate" their two channels; making XD the 'boys' channel and Disney Channel the 'girls' channel. It's rather stupid marketing in my opinion. Especially since Disney Channel is stuffed with so much junky pre-teen sitcoms it has zero appeal to anyone in my family anymore. My Dad still reminesses about the days when Disney Channel played actual DISNEY movies and features about the Disney Parks and behind the scenes stuff. Disney has magically sucked out all the Disney in Disney Channel and replaced it with soulless fluff. While Disney XD has some more interesting shows which seem more in the spirit of Disney, they aren't showing them on Disney Channel due to fear of alienating their demographic. Uggghhh. Sorry, rants over now. Move along now, move along. Quote
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