Cars topic

[5150 Lego]

Fine, fords, peugeots, mazdas, renaults, toyotas, BMWs, those that are still around MGs, nissan, honda, how many more do you want?

Ok, what specific cars are you refering to? Ands you do realize that ford is an American automaker right?

I realize that many of the Euro fords aren't avaible in the U.S, (Focus RS, and Mondeo for example), but the the standard focus is, and the chassis and suspention is the same as the euro versions. The Mondeo, is just a Euro version of the U.S.'s Ford Fusion. Just differnt sheet metal.

All the japanese automakers you meationed make great products. Though i'm not a fan of mazda. Espeacailly the RX8, or anything with a rotory engine. Good handling cars, but horible realibility. Complete gargage, and sound like lawn mowers. Its very popular for people to swap in the Corrvette LS1 V-8 as it much(and i mean much) more realible, and offers better peformance.

Nissian is a good company. I had always hoped that they would bring the Skyline GTR over hear, but that never happened. I do look forward to the 08 GTR though. Twin turbo V-8. Though i don't think its going to be all wheel drive.this time around.

Toyota probbly is one of the best manufacters in the world. Great fit and finish, reliability, and performance. On on my second toyota. i just wish they never killed off the Supra.

I never cared for honda. Way to bland. Nothing exciting. If i want a comuter car, i might concider one. Now wait, i'll just get a toyota pruis.

As far as American cars not handling and being to "plastic", i'll agree to a certain extent. American quality has incressed dramaticly over the past 10 years or so. Espeacailly GM. (general Motors). I'll admit that a few years ago the intereiors weren't up to par to many of the euro, and japanse counterparts. But there has been a dramatic improvment. As far as them not handling, ther are plenty of examples. The pontiac solstice, Ford mustang, Chevy corvette (nothing short of a porsche 911 GT3 can touch the Z06, and that cost nearly 5 times its price.)

I'm not saying that american cars are supperiour to euro or japanese, but there not out of the auto race either.

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All my freinds and family, but i am not going to mention there names because that is wrong.

Yeah- well peugeot, audi, BMW, MG and renault are all european.

Why don't american car companies concentrate more on improving there cars for people who are actuly going to buy them? Mainly Americans where there bigger sales come from, not europe.

[Brainbox]

Yeah- well peugeot, audi, BMW, MG and renault are all european.

Wasn't your original comment about American companies selling cars in the UK? You implied that only UK cars should be sold here. Aren't Renault and Peugot French?

[5150 Lego]

All my freinds and family, but i am not going to mention there names because that is wrong.

Yeah- well peugeot, audi, BMW, MG and renault are all european.

Why don't american car companies concentrate more on improving there cars for people who are actuly going to buy them? Mainly Americans where there bigger sales come from, not europe.

No offense, but just cause your friends and family think the U.S cars should stay in the U.S doesn't mean so. I mean if everyone had that mentality of thinking then every nation would have just the cars they produce only, and the rest of the world would miss out on alot of good products.

And to say that american cars only have an american audience is just sorry to say, a really stupid coment. yes american automakers do listen to what the americans want in vehicles. This is one of the many reasons the mustang still has a solid rear axle. but the the reason the branch out to other counties is because the same as why the rest of the auo maker5s sell over seas. Cause there is a want and demand for them. You say you like Ford, there would be alot of racing programs, and quite posible no F1 if ford never devoloped the cogsworth engine.

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Well first and formost, cosworth are out of F1 now- so i would not go near that topic, no offence, but being a fan all my life, i would know whats what.

Yes- american car makers listen to the american audiance- but you know, european people are not going to want the same as an american person, there are 2 diffrent places, diffrent challenges on the raods in both places.

[5150 Lego]

Well first and formost, cosworth are out of F1 now- so i would not go near that topic, no offence, but being a fan all my life, i would know whats what.

You know what i notice about your comback posts? You never respond to all the pionts made. you just nit pick what you think you can respond to. First off, i siad that cosworth was there AT THE BEGINING. I know that there out now. The point was that ford was one of the first to compete. Please read in full before you coment back.

Yes- american car makers listen to the american audiance- but you know, european people are not going to want the same as an american person, there are 2 diffrent places, diffrent challenges on the raods in both places.

Yes, europe isn't going to want/have a need for the same cars/trucks that america, or any other country for that matter..

Did you ever think maybe, just maybe thats why ther are only certain cars avaible in certain countries? X-O What might work in one place, may not work in the other. BUt you can bet if it is being sold, that there is a market for that paticular vehicle. A manufacter isn't going to waste money selling a car over seas if there no profit involved.

Look at ford for example. They have devloped cars for both the U.S. and europe. Ford has the Focus and its all wheel drive turbo version the Focus RS. Only the regular focus is avaible in the U.S. Ford hasen't seen a market for the RS in america. (though with the recent release of the Mitubishi Evo and Subaru WRX STi, the Focus RS could be a strong posibility in the U.S.) Ford, Chevy, Dodge, toyota, Nissian all offered 4 door compact trucks of over 20 years in europe, and south america. It wasn't till the last 3 years or so that they finnally started building the american versions with a 4 door option.

Bottom line is that automakers do listen to what people want. Not only in their own countires, but in others as well.

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It's ironic that they kept blowing up and you think they are good....you don't get points for engine blows in F1 ROLFL!

What do people think about david richardson buying aston marting after ford stupidly sold it, i mean, really, that was the only profitable bit of ford. Maybe Richardson will actuly do something to change the performanc and style of the cars now- and of course- it's good aston are finnaly british once again.

[5150 Lego]

Again you don't look into the post fully. Never said i liked cosworth. read my post kid.

Ford did Aston martin a great benifit. They actully made them reliable. Its no secert that british cars were some of the most unreliable cars on the road. Plagued with electrical problems from day one. Thats one of the first things ford worked on. You really need to get out of your exotic car world. There are other and IMO better cars (espeacailly for your money) than the super exotics that you always lust over. Ford owns several car companies. To say Aston was there most profitable would be rediculous.

Oh, and yes, Ford did own Austin Martin, but it had always been s a Britsh car company. Ford just called the shots so to speak.

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Well there is no british car company anymore, apart from noble and they are one of the best car makes around on a very small budget, MG have gone, rover have gone, TVR have gone russian, aston are coming back to england.

Did i not say don't call me kid a while back? i'm sure i did.

Stop perpersly arguing with me- it's anoying and i want to talk about cars in a sensible way without your being patranising.

[5150 Lego]

Well there is no british car company anymore, apart from noble and they are one of the best car makes around on a very small budget, MG have gone, rover have gone, TVR have gone russian, aston are coming back to england.

Did i not say don't call me kid a while back? i'm sure i did.

Stop perpersly arguing with me- it's anoying and i want to talk about cars in a sensible way without your being patranising.

When you say rover, are you talking about land rover? Cause there still very much alive.

Perpesly arguing? No. I'm simply rebutting the coments you made. I even called off the first debate about the modified cars. Bhen you respond its never in full. Like i said before, you nit pick one point of several and try to come off like you made some huge point when you clearly haven't.

I'll say it again, if you don't want to be called a kid, well then stop acting like one. I am talking about cars sensably, but you need to realize that you can't say somthing like "American cars should stay in america" and not expect somone to argue that coment. Weather you realize it or not, thats a very harsh staement to make. somone can take that coment alot further than just cars.

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No- as in MG rover. Died....quite a while ago now.

I was sad when TVR went russian because that was one of britain's top car makers.

[Optikal Illushun]

I love cars and trucks...

here are some pics of my truck:

our 1966 Fairlane GT:

[Asuka]

*gasp* Beautiful cars.... and no fata morgana, for sure. :-P

[5150 Lego]

Nice rides! What engine is in the fairlane? Looks like you and your family are ford fans! You 4 wheel in your truck at all?

[Optikal Illushun]

Fairlane has a 390 "S" code (335 hp/427 torque) with a 4 speed.

i used to wheel my truck but after my second yr of college it became a burden and i retired it to street duty LOL.

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Just been reading a top gear magazine article on the new japanese super cars, the lexus LF-A, toyota FH-TS (i think that's what it's called) nissan GT-R and honda NSX. I personally like them all espacially the LF-A and toyota. What is your take on these cars guys?

[Brainbox]

our 1966 Fairlane GT:

ooh... *y*

Just been reading a top gear magazine article on the new japanese super cars, the lexus LF-A, toyota FH-TS (i think that's what it's called) nissan GT-R and honda NSX. I personally like them all espacially the LF-A and toyota. What is your take on these cars guys?

Lexus LF-A: The word sleek springs to mind. Looks better with a roof than without.

Toyota FH-TS: I can't find any pictures, so that may not be it's name. ;-)

Nissan GT-R: Looks OK. Not bad, but not really outstanding either.

Honda NSX: Not really keen.

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It might be FT-HS then, infact, it's this:

[5150 Lego]

Fairlane has a 390 "S" code (335 hp/427 torque) with a 4 speed.

i used to wheel my truck but after my second yr of college it became a burden and i retired it to street duty LOL.

Nice! I'll be looking to build my own muscle car in a couple of years. Would love to find a decent 68 mustang fastback, or a 70 chevelle SS 454.

I have a Toyota FJ Cruiser. I just lifted it 3" and put on some 33" M/T' tires last week. Haven't had a chance to try out the new suspention and tires yet.

Just been reading a top gear magazine article on the new japanese super cars, the lexus LF-A, toyota FH-TS (i think that's what it's called) nissan GT-R and honda NSX. I personally like them all espacially the LF-A and toyota. What is your take on these cars guys?

So is Lexus now expanding its line outside the U.S.? This is the first iv'e heard of the Lexus name plate being used outside the U.S. (In the U.S., Lexus is Toyotas luxury divsion. ) Are there any cars in europe, or the rest of the world wearing a lexus nameplate? It looks like the Toyta is just a concept and if the the LF-A makes it into production, it doesn't seem logical that the toyota will be made since toyota and lexus are the same company.

It will be very intersteing to see how the GTR does. With the demise of the beloved Skyline GTR, the new GTR will have quite a name to live up too. I'm hoping the stick with the plan of a twin turbo V-8, or at least at least some kind of turbo engine. Onlny time will tell if it can with stand the abuse that the mighty RB26DETT straight 6 that came in the previous generation GTR had.

As for the Honda NSX. Never cared for honda'a, probbly never will.

[Brainbox]

It might be FT-HS then, infact, it's this:

Looks a bit OTT for my liking.

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Yes- apparently the lexus LF-A will be going worldwide if it ever made. It's a big ask, and really suprising that lexus have come into the super car division. Think about it, when somebody says "super car" is lexus really the first thing that comes into your head? It isn't for me. Also, it will have a speed of "200 Mph+" which, i really don't expect from a company who have never made a super car before. Or that i can remember.

Oh, the NSX you see is not going to be what it appears at the moment, as said in the TG mag, there was not really a very big reaction about it, not many people liked it, so honda have gone back to the drawing board to design a car that will be unvailed in a motor show later this year. The car that will be unvailed will be the final car and replacment for the old NSX.

The GT-R is a very nice car IMO. They went to lotus base to ask for some help on developing the car apparently, so with lotu's wisdom and nissan's past history, hopefully they will come up with a brilliant car.

Finally, all 4 cars will have there final cars announced at the tokyo motorshow at the end of this year, rumors have it the GT-R will be available earlier than then though.

[5150 Lego]

Yes , but remeber that Lexus is Toyota. They may have not made a super car in the past, but toyota is no stranger to when it comes to racing. So I imagine the'll be using there racing experiance for devolping the LF-A. There probbly using the Lexus nameplate because it might help give it a more "profesional" feel to some. But again, this is the first that iv'e heard of toyota using lexus outside the U.S.

Lotus helped Nissan with the GTR? I wonder why that is. Lotus makes great cars, but i don't see why they need there help on this one.

Honda will defentaly need to go back to the drwing bard with the NSX. Its completely out dated.

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Yes, i know what you mean with the whole GT-R needing lotus's help thing. Can't really see the point in it, many people would say that a nissan skyline is better than a lotus, so it's probably got quite afew people wondering what was the point.

[5150 Lego]

So lto keep this topic going, lets talk about motorsports? What are peoples farvorite motrosports? This could be anything from drag racing, to motocross to F1.

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Well, you know me, F1 of course! Though i do follow the indycar series, MotoGP, GP2, F3, WTCC, BTCC, ALMS and LMS series