Ultron Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 So, getting off track for a second, this episode of Agents of Shield was amazing. Seriously a lot better than some of the stuff they've been putting out. The character melded better, the dialogue flowed better, and some of the pay-offs from past episodes were great, not to mention the set-up for future ones. Also, there was a nice reference to Bucky Barnes made. They're definitely setting up for Cap 2. I caught the Bucky reference! And I agree, it was a lot better. Especially with him turning into Blizzard at the end. I hope he comes back to wreak havoc soon. I'm still waiting for graviton to come back though...it'll be pretty awesome whenever he does reappear. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Yeah, that final scene with Blizzard excited me. I have been waiting for Graviton to come back for a while, but Blizzard was still really cool for the moment. Also, love Ian Quin being sort of indirectly causing the birth of all these supervillains. Of course he's involved with the Clairvoyant, too - I do like how the writers are connecting everything. Quote
Faefrost Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 This last episode of aoS was one of the best. They actually started to open the door to a few real potential Marvel characters. I'm guessing the one dude is Blizzard? (And having him end up in the same place as Graviton is interesting). And then there's the potential in the other big reveal... Mantis maybe? (Original pre GoG Avengers Mantis?) Quote
SandMirror38 Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Is AoS back on in australia yet??? I'm gettung really excited! Quote
Faefrost Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 ...This Ant-Man news is not welcomed. Sure, I want Cassie down the line, but down the line. We need Wasp first. And if Hank isn't Ant-Man, then the odds of her appearing are unlikely, at least in a major role. She could easily exist without him, like in the ultimate universe, but I doubt they will do that. Come on Marvel, her original origin story is practically Batman's. Only she doesn't angst all the time. People would see that. Don't count Wasp out yet. We nearly had her in Avengers 1. Joss Wheedon loves the character and already has stuff written for her. She was his option if Scarlett Johansen didn't want to do Black Widow again. And JW never let's go of a character once he gets it into his mind. She will show up somewhere. She just may not have as direct a tie to Pym as is traditional. I wonder what the odds of seeing Scott Lang show up over in the Jessica Jones TV series will be? Quote
Tanma Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Don't count Wasp out yet. We nearly had her in Avengers 1. Joss Wheedon loves the character and already has stuff written for her. She was his option if Scarlett Johansen didn't want to do Black Widow again. And JW never let's go of a character once he gets it into his mind. She will show up somewhere. She just may not have as direct a tie to Pym as is traditional. I wonder what the odds of seeing Scott Lang show up over in the Jessica Jones TV series will be? Thanks, I needed that. On the matter of SHIELD, Donnie is indeed Blizzard in the comics. I have to say I feel like he is more rounded than some antagonists in the show, like Scorch. I look forward to seeing where he goes, and if he will follow his comic roots, or be more heroic. Quote
Ultron Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Thomas Kretschmann has been cast as an unknown villain in Age of Ultron. Curse it all. Ultron shouldn't have to share the spotlight! Anyway, rumor has it he'll be playing Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, a head of hydra. Rumor also has it Baron Wolfgang von Strucker will be replacing Magneto as Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's father. Edited January 15, 2014 by Luna Lovegood Quote
Tobias_Jay Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Is AoS back on in australia yet??? I'm gettung really excited! I imagine it will return when the tennis is over (like just about everything). Quote
Faefrost Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Thomas Kretschmann has been cast as an unknown villain in Age of Ultron. Curse it all. Ultron shouldn't have to share the spotlight! Anyway, rumor has it he'll be playing Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, a head of hydra. Rumor also has it Baron Wolfgang von Strucker will be replacing Magneto as Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's father. It's confirmed that they are one and the same. Kretschmann will be playing Strucker. Quote
The_Creator Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 I'm excited for how AoS will play in with CA:WS, hopefully it'll help improve the show a bit. Quote
BrickG Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 They already tied into the Thor movie and the episode was pretty bad. Quote
Mr Man Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 They already tied into the Thor movie and the episode was pretty bad. But 'Winter Soldier' is about SHEILD, there could be interesting ramifications from the film. Last episode was okay, AoS is getting better, it just seems to be a bit slow. Quote
Tanma Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Agreed, especially if my theory about Zola being part of Paperclip is right. We might see more of the dark side of SHIELD. Quote
The_Creator Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 Rumor also has it Baron Wolfgang von Strucker will be replacing Magneto as Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's father. Oh please no, that is one thing I defiantly hope Marvel doesn't do. Besides, Ultron should retain his spotlight for AoU, rather than share with some old Hydra guy. Quote
Tanma Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Yeah, that would be bad, especially given how the Maximoffs are pretty much the opposite of the Aryan ideal in the comics. Lot of problematic things there. Edited January 16, 2014 by Tanma Quote
Ultron Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) It's confirmed that they are one and the same. Kretschmann will be playing Strucker. Looks like you're right. My source got it wrong I guess! Oh please no, that is one thing I defiantly hope Marvel doesn't do. Besides, Ultron should retain his spotlight for AoU, rather than share with some old Hydra guy. Unfortunately, it seems like it's going to happen since Strucker also had 2 twin children that are easily replaceable as quicksilver and scarlet witch. I don't think it's too much of a big deal though. SW and QS were sorta evil at first I suppose anyway being magnetos children and all so I imagine that's what'll happen here. I agree, Ultron shouldn't have to share the spotlight but I don't think Strucker is going to have much screen time actually. I just want Ultron to stomp everyone and be really powerful. And to lay some smack down on the hulk. And lots of human casualties. bwahahahaha Yeah, that would be bad, especially given how the Maximoffs are pretty much the opposite of the Aryan ideal in the comics. Lot of problematic things there. I think it'll just translate to this: SW and QS are told to go kill avengers by daddy and then after the smack down they'll realize what they're doing is wrong and the avengers are the good guys and team up with avengers for final fight with ultron. I don't think SW and QS will necessarily be nazis but just evil. I don't think them as nazis turned good would go over well with audiences. I still think it'd be best to just introduce SW and QS without having to reference their father so they leave that open for speculation. That way they're still magneto's children but it's just not stated. And just say they were born with their powers (not mentioning the word mutant) and bam, origin story still accurate Edited January 16, 2014 by Luna Lovegood Quote
The_Creator Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 I still think it'd be best to just introduce SW and QS without having to reference their father so they leave that open for speculation. That way they're still magneto's children but it's just not stated. And just say they were born with their powers (not mentioning the word mutant) and bam, origin story still accurate I agree, that'd be the preferred route since Marvel can't use anything mutant, and I can just fill in their origin story myself. Quote
Ultron Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 I agree, that'd be the preferred route since Marvel can't use anything mutant, and I can just fill in their origin story myself. I think the only problem with that is they would feel like flat characters. They wouldn't have a motive or anything. Especially if they just randomly appeared but I'm not picky. Quote
Oky Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 So Marvel released the opening scene of the short film All Hail The King that will be included in the Thor: The Dark World home release today: Say what you will about the whole Mandarin fiasco, but more Ben Kingsley is never a bad thing in my opinion. Plus there are supposedly several hints at future Marvel films in that short. Perhaps the fact that he is imprisoned in Seagate prison, the place where Luke Cage was created in the comics, could be one of them? As for AoS, yeah, it's a pretty disappointing show, especially being made by Whedon. The last two episodes had a nice dark tone to them and sort of answered some questions though, so I guess it might be improving... Quote
The Legonater Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 People keeps citing Whedon, but they're thinking of the wrong one. Joss is helping produce it, sure, but Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen are doing most if not all of the writing and stuff. I don't really know if they've done anything but help Joss with Dr. Horrible, though. I would agree that the show has been slowly improving over its course. Quote
Faefrost Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 But 'Winter Soldier' is about SHEILD, there could be interesting ramifications from the film. Last episode was okay, AoS is getting better, it just seems to be a bit slow. There was actually a huge teaser for Winter Soldier in this episode with Skye reading off Bucky Barne's name on the plaque. She wasn't reading a random name. She was reading the first name on the plaque. Captain America's special operations group from the second half of Captain America, First Avenger is the beginning of SHIELD. Cap, Bucky, Dum Dum and the Comando's were the first Operations group. Howard Stark and company were Research and Science and Peggy Carter was part of Inteligence. Bucky Barnes was SHIELDs first field casualty. In one brief seemingly cheesy bit of dialogue they just tied together CA1, IM2, Avengers, AoS and set the stage for Winter Soldier and upped the stakes a bit. Especially for movie fans who don't know the Winter Soldier comic story going in. Quote
The_Creator Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 I think the only problem with that is they would feel like flat characters. They wouldn't have a motive or anything. Especially if they just randomly appeared but I'm not picky. It's not like Hawkeye and Black Widow had much of a back story. :P I need to catch up on AoS… and watch AHtK, then I'll comment on 'em. Quote
Tanma Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 It's not like Hawkeye and Black Widow had much of a back story. :P I need to catch up on AoS… and watch AHtK, then I'll comment on 'em. To be fair though, the two of them don't exactly have powers that people will expect to be explained. Quote
Faefrost Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 It's not like Hawkeye and Black Widow had much of a back story. :P I need to catch up on AoS… and watch AHtK, then I'll comment on 'em. In theory we should be seeing a little bit of Black Widow's back story in Winter Soldier. Quote
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