Legends of Chima TV Series

[Lyichir]

I not only look for the colour of the Lions' hair on their manes to differentiate between, for example, Leonidas, Longtooth and Lennox, but I also look at what the torso print is there on the Lions that are in question there. (Leonidas' and Lennox's torso look almost the same there, except for the fact that Lennox's torso has two belts that are printed on him (one belt that is intersecting on a 45 degree angle but not crossing the other one, which is perpendicular to the other one, thus also on a 45 degree angle), whereas Leonidas' torso has only one belt on him that crosses his torso on a 45 degree angle.)

"CM4S", I cannot calm down here (and move on from my issues in how LEGO and M2Films treated the Crocodile tribe as a whole, especially with on how they treated Cragger's character and personality) until Cartoon Network (in the US) and Teletoon (in Canada) have shown the entire episode of "the Joyride" -- as I strongly believe that this episode is the last episode of the pilot episodes (it even says that it is the last episode in the trailer of this episode that was uploaded to YouTube from the Okto TV channel in Singapore), and thus a proper conclusion to the current story arc with Laval and his allies in fighting against Cragger and his (current) allies for Chi. (That is the case, unless I and/or someone else here finds an upload of Parts 2, 3 and 4 (if Part 3 does not end at the end of the closing credits part of the episode) and/or an upload of the entire episode of "The Joyride" episode on YouTube (and/or any other free video-sharing website), with the dialogue of the characters in the English lanuguage, and Cragger gets redeemed by the end of "The Joyride" episode.) Furthermore, it is extremely unfair that Singapore, via the Okto TV channel, gets to air "The Joyride" episode, with the dialogue in the English language, (probably) much sooner than Cartoon Network (and thus Teletoon but a couple days later on from the US airing of it) in the US (and Canada) will get to air it!!! Thus, why this is the case, and what is the holdup (i.e., what is keeping them from airing it now or very soon from now?)??? I'm saying this because they (Cartoon Network and Teletoon) should be airing this soon, not just a week before the official start of "Season 1" begins in the summer, as "Season 1" will (probably) have a completely brand new story arc, with brand new tribes and/or characters and, more importantly, new villains (LEGO and M2Films in having Cragger (and most of the other Crocodiles) as the main villains gets boring after a while, so the introduction of new main villains (and/or villainesses) should be in order there). Thus, there would be brand new characters in minifigure form and Speedorz (as well as existing characters in minifigure form) in brand new sets (vehicles and important locations) in January of 2014 -- otherwise there is not much point in LEGO having new sets and Speedorz next year, as most of the existing vehicles (and some of the most important locations) of the Lions, Eagles, Gorillas, Crocodiles, Wolves and Ravens have (or will be the case, as of this summer) been released already by LEGO.

Please stop with the random bolding and underlining of phrases; it's hard to read and feels like you're yelling. And "Season 1", (or rather, the rest of season 1), if it is indeed to debut this summer as the American commercials have stated, will in all likelihood continue to have the crocodiles as the main villains. There are a number of reasons for this. For one, the crocodiles continue to have an antagonistic role in the sets. The show exists to sell the sets. Thus, if any major shifts are to occur in the allegiances of the main tribes, I wouldn't think it would occur until near the end of this year's story or the beginning of next year's, so that there's as little dissonance as possible between the sets and the story.

Secondly, no outside threat has arisen that could convincingly replace the crocodiles as the main antagonists. So far, the villainous tribes consist of the Crocs, the Wolves, the Ravens, and MAYBE the Beavers. If the crocs (who have so far been shown as the most capable military force on their side) were to defect, you'd be left with only the Wolves and Ravens as threatening antagonists, and the Ravens, who have been established as only at war for the profit, would be soon to defect to the winning side. On their own against five tribes, the Wolves would have no chance. Congratulations, Chima is over! All that money that Lego poured into making Chima a successful and long-lasting theme? Wasted! But hey, at least the Crocodile tribe could be redeemed with minimal effort and their epic struggle to do the right thing could be reduced to an apology and a change of heart.

Do you see what's wrong with this? Eliminating the main antagonists of the show this early would totally ruin the story. You hate that the Crocs are presented as an evil faction. I get that. But that's how it is, and if they all turn good over the course of an episode or two, before the war the theme presents has even climaxed, it will totally ruin their character development. Cragger would turn from a tortured character, torn between his frustration with the Lion tribe and his former friendship with Laval, into an uninteresting good guy who got over all his issues before the show had a chance to give him a convincing motivation to do so. And in the absence of any serious conflict, the show would become superfluous. Perhaps you could make a new threat appear out of nowhere, with no foreshadowing and no set-up. But that's not good storytelling.

Finally, complaining about the airing schedule for the episodes is pointless. Yeah, it's a shame that we have to wait to get the show in English-speaking countries. But whining about it being unfair isn't going to make the episodes come any faster.

[Good Cragger Fan]

Please stop with the random bolding and underlining of phrases; it's hard to read and feels like you're yelling. And "Season 1", (or rather, the rest of season 1), if it is indeed to debut this summer as the American commercials have stated, will in all likelihood continue to have the crocodiles as the main villains. There are a number of reasons for this. For one, the crocodiles continue to have an antagonistic role in the sets. The show exists to sell the sets. Thus, if any major shifts are to occur in the allegiances of the main tribes, I wouldn't think it would occur until near the end of this year's story or the beginning of next year's, so that there's as little dissonance as possible between the sets and the story.

Secondly, no outside threat has arisen that could convincingly replace the crocodiles as the main antagonists. So far, the villainous tribes consist of the Crocs, the Wolves, the Ravens, and MAYBE the Beavers. If the crocs (who have so far been shown as the most capable military force on their side) were to defect, you'd be left with only the Wolves and Ravens as threatening antagonists, and the Ravens, who have been established as only at war for the profit, would be soon to defect to the winning side. On their own against five tribes, the Wolves would have no chance. Congratulations, Chima is over! All that money that Lego poured into making Chima a successful and long-lasting theme? Wasted! But hey, at least the Crocodile tribe could be redeemed with minimal effort and their epic struggle to do the right thing could be reduced to an apology and a change of heart.

Do you see what's wrong with this? Eliminating the main antagonists of the show this early would totally ruin the story. You hate that the Crocs are presented as an evil faction. I get that. But that's how it is, and if they all turn good over the course of an episode or two, before the war the theme presents has even climaxed, it will totally ruin their character development. Cragger would turn from a tortured character, torn between his frustration with the Lion tribe and his former friendship with Laval, into an uninteresting good guy who got over all his issues before the show had a chance to give him a convincing motivation to do so. And in the absence of any serious conflict, the show would become superfluous. Perhaps you could make a new threat appear out of nowhere, with no foreshadowing and no set-up. But that's not good storytelling.

Finally, complaining about the airing schedule for the episodes is pointless. Yeah, it's a shame that we have to wait to get the show in English-speaking countries. But whining about it being unfair isn't going to make the episodes come any faster.

First and foremost, my so-called "random" bolding and underlining of phrases is not random at all there. I only bold a word or phrase when I want to emphasise it; I only bold and italicise a phrase when I want to really emphasise it; I only bold, italicise and underline a phrase when I really, really want to emphasise it, and I only type in all captial letters, bold, italicise and underline a word or phrase when I really, really, really want to emphasise it. (Besides, I am absolutely furious in how the LEGO Company treats the only reptile tribe, the Crocodiles, in the land of Chima! )

Second, on [blog=www.kingdomofchima.com][/blog], on the very first blog entry back in December of last year, it mentions that there are barbaric tribes who "lured" the Wolves, Ravens and Crocodiles to their evil cause, as the barbaric tribes failed to accomplish their evil goals the first time around on their own. Could it be that the Beavers are one of the Barbaric tribes, or are they just another animal warrior tibe in the land of Chima who became evil in personality and character, just like the other three tribes did there? Is at least one of the barbaric tribes even more powerful than even the Crocodiles (or at the very least, as powerful as the Crocodiles) and thus could replace the Crocodiles [except Crooler -- she is one very nasty and crafty Crocodile tribe member, and I could very easily see her turn against the entire Crocodile tribe, even against Crug and Crawley, should they (and the Lions and their (current) allies) ever find out that she is the one who is truely responsible for the war and not Cragger, as he has been hipnotised by her to do her bidding!)] as the main antagonists? Only time (and us seeing more episodes of the Legends of Chima TV series that feature the Beavers) will tell us! Also, if barbaric tribes are introduced into the land of Chima, of course there will be some foreshadowing and set-up in the Legends of Chima TV series' future episodes. (I personally think that there is already a bit of a set-up and/or foreshadowing there that has already occurred in the first episode of the TV series -- when King LaGravis said to King Crominus, "There is no need for bad blood between our tribes.", and King Crominus replied to King LaGravis by him saying, "Yes, there has been enough of that in the past." (this is in the scene where they were having an arguement over LaGravis in and zapping Cragger with a laser ray gun to stop the uncontrolable actions of Cragger when he stole and used a Chi orb from the sacred pool of Chi in the Lion temple and then chaining him up, there) -- so this could mean that King LaGravis and, especially, King Crominus were referring to a previous war that is between them (and all of the other non-barbaric tribes (them including the Crocodiles, Wolves and Ravens) in the land of Chima) and the barbaric tribes, which probably took place before Laval was even born then.)

Finally, the "The Joyride" episode of the show has already been shown in one English-speaking country, and that counrty is Singapore. (The country of Singapore has English as one of the main spoken Languages (it being along with Malay, Chinese and (perhaps) Hindi.) Also, I could whine and complain about me (and us) waiting so long until the "The Joyride" epissode is to be aired in the US and Canada, to the people who work at Cartoon Network and/or Teletoon (and I might just do so!).

"Wall E2624", I believe that the Rhinoceroses will be good characters and will be on the Lions' side in the war, thus will sign a peace treaty with the Lion tribe. I'm saying this because if you watch part 1 of the "The Joyride" episode on Youtube, when Lagravis and two of his soldiers visit the Rhinoceroses' territory -- you will see one of the Rhinoceroses puts a Chi orb in his (or her) chest; then a blue Rhinoceroses avatar (or Power Warrior) (a blue avatar (or Power Warrior) of a Chima animal warrior means a good character, and a red avatar (Power Warrior) of a Chima animal warrior means a bad character) of himself (or herself) appears there for a brief second before it disapearing completely there, and then the Rhinoceros rams himself (or herself) into a large rock.

By the way, does anyone know why, when Cragger uses a Chi orb for the very first time, his Crocodile avatar (Power Warrior) first is blue then changes to red about a second or so later on from then?

Here is an edit: An animal warrior's avatar is his (or her) Power Warrior.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Gatanui]

A German tv listing mentions episodes 5 and 6 with the original airing dates 10th and 17th April on CN. Now the question is, in what country?

-Gata

[PenPlays]

First and foremost, my so-called "random" bolding and underlining of phrases is not random at all there. I only bold a word or phrase when I want to emphasise it; I only bold and italicise a phrase when I want to really emphasise it; I only bold, italicise and underline a phrase when I really, really want to emphasise it, and I only type in all captial letters, bold, italicise and underline a word or phrase when I really, really, really want to emphasise it. (Besides, I am absolutely furious in how the LEGO Company treats the only reptile tribe, the Crocodiles, in the land of Chima! )

Second, on [blog=www.kingdomofchima.com][/blog], on the very first blog entry back in December of last year, it mentions that there are barbaric tribes who "lured" the Wolves, Ravens and Crocodiles to their evil cause, as the barbaric tribes failed to accomplish their evil goals the first time around on their own. Could it be that the Beavers are one of the Barbaric tribes, or are they just another animal warrior tibe in the land of Chima who became evil in personality and character, just like the other three tribes did there? Is at least one of the barbaric tribes even more powerful than even the Crocodiles (or at the very least, as powerful as the Crocodiles) and thus could replace the Crocodiles [except Crooler -- she is one very nasty and crafty Crocodile tribe member, and I could very easily see her turn against the entire Crocodile tribe, even against Crug and Crawley, should they (and the Lions and their (current) allies) ever find out that she is the one who is truely responsible for the war and not Cragger, as he has been hipnotised by her to do her bidding!)] as the main antagonists? Only time (and us seeing more episodes of the Legends of Chima TV series that feature the Beavers) will tell us! Also, if barbaric tribes are introduced into the land of Chima, of course there will be some foreshadowing and set-up in the Legends of Chima TV series' future episodes. (I personally think that there is already a bit of a set-up and/or foreshadowing there that has already occurred in the first episode of the TV series -- when King LaGravis said to King Crominus, "There is no need for bad blood between our tribes.", and King Crominus replied to King LaGravis by him saying, "Yes, there has been enough of that in the past." (this is in the scene where they were having an arguement over LaGravis in and zapping Cragger with a laser ray gun to stop the uncontrolable actions of Cragger when he stole and used a Chi orb from the sacred pool of Chi in the Lion temple and then chaining him up, there) -- so this could mean that King LaGravis and, especially, King Crominus were referring to a previous war that is between them (and all of the other non-barbaric tribes (them including the Crocodiles, Wolves and Ravens) in the land of Chima) and the barbaric tribes, which probably took place before Laval was even born then.)

Finally, the "The Joyride" episode of the show has already been shown in one English-speaking country, and that counrty is Singapore. (The country of Singapore has English as one of the main spoken Languages (it being along with Malay, Chinese and (perhaps) Hindi.) Also, I could whine and complain about me (and us) waiting so long until the "The Joyride" epissode is to be aired in the US and Canada, to the people who work at Cartoon Network and/or Teletoon (and I might just do so!). ...

...By the way, does anyone know why, when Cragger uses a Chi orb for the very first time, his Crocodile avatar first is blue then changes to red about a second or so later on from then?

The excessive bolding and italics make your posts an eyesore. Not to mention the overuse of angry smileys.

That post on "Kingdomofchima," a fan cite, stated this before the final theme's story was revealed (rather pre-mature of their part). It is sprinkled with presumptuous and false information (green CHI? This was after images of the crystals were released!).

Be patient like the rest of us.

Cragger's CHI-vatar begins blue because the energy just powered him. It goes red when the CHI-vatar stops growing because that is the energy peak.

Edited April 5, 2013 by Penkid11

[Zachattacx]

A German tv listing mentions episodes 5 and 6 with the original airing dates 10th and 17th April on CN. Now the question is, in what country?

-Gata

17th uh....for my b-day.You know I had a weird felling about that,but as you said what country?

[Tobias_Jay]

"Wall E2624", I believe that the Rhinoceroses will be good characters and will be on the Lions' side in the war, thus will sign a peace treaty with the Lion tribe. I'm saying this because if you watch part 1 of the "The Joyride" episode on Youtube, when Lagravis and two of his soldiers visit the Rhinoceroses' territory -- you will see one of the Rhinoceroses puts a Chi orb in his (or her) chest; then a blue Rhinoceroses avatar (a blue avatar of a Chima animal warrior means a good character, and a red avatar of a Chima animal warrior means a bad character) of himself (or herself) appears there for a brief second before it disapearing completely there, and then the Rhinoceros rams himself (or herself) into a large rock.

That is something I overlooked, there is just something about these Rhinos that look like they belong on the bad side of the war. Anyway, so that would leave 4 tribes on each side, so unless there is a new tribe introduced next year (which I see happening but you never know) then maybe the Bears can be classed as a neutral tribe? So far mostly all the bears have been comic relief more than anything, but the series is still young .

[Gatanui]

CHI-vatar

Chivatar! I like that!

-Gata

Edited April 5, 2013 by Gatanui

[krystalKING]

Random Eagle Musings...

Is anyone noticing a caste system for the Eagles? There appears to be a lower caste (Light blue and silver armor.) And a upper-warrior caste. (This includes Eris, Ewar, Equila, Ewald, and ?Eglor?) This upper warrior caste is the dominant caste, but they appear to be fewer in number. Unlike the lower caste, which is probobly the main population of Eagles. It is possible the upper warrior caste Eagles can trace their linage back to their far ancestors, and the lower ones lost track, or the two caste were simply seperated as two mutations split the Eagle tribe. This could be reinforced by Eglor, who exhibits All the traits of a new mutation. (Different feather color, for example.)

Just Remeber, this is all guess work.

[Blacktron]

I saw the first two episodes of the show just yesterday and I was really shocked how bad they are. I loved the Ninjago show and thought Chima would be on the same level, but the show is somewhere between Ninjago and Teletubies. Weird story, boring main characters, bad voice acting, pacing etc. I'll watch it with my girlfriends 5year old son, because it might be okay for this age group, but if you're older than 7-8 you can't overlook it's flaws. I thought Chima would be a story of good vs. evil. But the wolves, ravens and crocodiles aren't badguys. They act like small kids. They are cute and clumsy and stupid, but no real bad guys. The good guys aren't good either. Lavall is boring, selfish and very 2-dimensional. He's the hero from the start, wins every fight or race. There is no potential to grow.

I loved the toyline from the first glimse. The figures and vehicles are great designs and I think Chima might be one of the best lines TLG has ever done. The designs are so colorful, inspiring and full of fantasy, but this show is simply stupid. I hope the next episodes will be much better. They need to be better.

Edited April 8, 2013 by Blacktron

[Lyichir]

I saw the first two episodes of the show just yesterday and I was really shocked how bad they are. I loved the Ninjago show and thought Chima would be on the same level, but the show is somewhere between Ninjago and Teletubies. Weird story, boring main characters, bad voice acting, pacing etc. I'll watch it with my girlfriends 5year old son, because it might be okay for this age group, but if you're older than 7-8 you can't overlook it's flaws. I thought Chima would be a story of good vs. evil. But the wolves, ravens and crocodiles aren't badguys. They act like small kids. They are cute and clumsy and stupid, but no real bad guys. The good guys aren't good either. Lavall is boring, selfish and very 2-dimensional. He's the hero from the start, wins every fight or race. There is no potential to grow.

I loved the toyline from the first glimse. The figures and vehicles are great designs and I think Chima might be one of the best lines TLG has ever done. The designs are so colorful, inspiring and full of fantasy, but this show is simply stupid. I hope the next episodes will be much better. They need to be better.

I still fail to see what's bad about the voice acting. From what I can tell, the actors are doing wonderfully with a sub-par script. Laval's voice is wonderful, as are LaGravis', Gorzan's, Razar's, and many others.

As for the kid-like characters, what's been presented so far has in many ways been presented as a coming-of-age story. If the writers know what they're doing they'll develop the characters to be more mature as the series goes on (although given the poor form of the first few episodes, whether they know what they're doing is very much up for debate).

[Tobias_Jay]

My main problem with Laval is that he talks to slow. His voice just about sends me to sleep when he is talking for a while.

[CM4Sci]

My main problem with Laval is that he talks to slow. His voice just about sends me to sleep when he is talking for a while.

You can't insult Laval's way of speaking and get away with it!

-Sci

[Good Cragger Fan]

For those people (them including myself) who have seen the "Warrior Within" episode (episode 3), I have 2 questions: Do you think that Laval threw the Chi orb into the Gorge of Eternal Depth (it is the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket fall down in the first episode, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket can and/or will escape the place/cave/hole by them using this Chi orb, if and when they do find it), or did Laval threw it down a different hole? If Laval threw the Chi orb down the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket have fallen into there -- would this mean that Laval have helped save Crominus and/or Crunket from certain doom indirectly there, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket would join the Lions' side in the war against most of the other Crocodiles, especailly Crooler (and maybe, just maybe, Crominus and/or Crunket would put a stop to Cooler in hipnotising Cragger, and thus Cragger would also join the Lions' side of the war as well, as he was best friends with Laval, the Lion Prince, after all); or would Crominus and/or Crunket would not be thankful for Laval in throwing down a Chi orb, for it was to be out of the Crocodiles' possesion, which was Laval's intention, after all?

[Good Cragger Fan]

The voices are typically really good. Every time Laval speaks my heart melts; he's so kawaii.

I feel the exact same way, but in my case, it is for Cragger when he is not hipnotised by Crooler's orchid, and thus not doing evil things (i.e., mainly in episode 1 and the first couple of mintues of episode 2).

Edited April 9, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Tobias_Jay]

You can't insult Laval's way of speaking and get away with it!

-Sci

For those people (them including myself) who have seen the "Warrior Within" episode (episode 3), I have 2 questions: Do you think that Laval threw the Chi orb into the Gorge of Eternal Depth (it is the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket fall down in the first episode, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket can and/or will escape the place/cave/hole by them using this Chi orb, if and when they do find it), or did Laval threw it down a different hole? If Laval threw the Chi orb down the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket have fallen into there -- would this mean that Laval have helped save Crominus and/or Crunket from certain doom indirectly there, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket would join the Lions' side in the war against most of the other Crocodiles, especailly Crooler (and maybe, just maybe, Crominus and/or Crunket would put a stop to Cooler in hipnotising Cragger, and thus Cragger would also join the Lions' side of the war as well, as he was best friends with Laval, the Lion Prince, after all); or would Crominus and/or Crunket would not be thankful for Laval in throwing down a Chi orb, for it was to be out of the Crocodiles' possesion, which was Laval's intention, after all?

I belive it was a different hole but it would be interesting if they were to find the orb. But I want to know what the cocequences of Laval disposing of the orb will be, because there was the earthquake near the end of the episode, I wonder what that will bring.

[Lyichir]

For those people (them including myself) who have seen the "Warrior Within" episode (episode 3), I have 2 questions: Do you think that Laval threw the Chi orb into the Gorge of Eternal Depth (it is the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket fall down in the first episode, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket can and/or will escape the place/cave/hole by them using this Chi orb, if and when they do find it), or did Laval threw it down a different hole? If Laval threw the Chi orb down the same place/cave/hole that Crominus and Crunket have fallen into there -- would this mean that Laval have helped save Crominus and/or Crunket from certain doom indirectly there, and thus Crominus and/or Crunket would join the Lions' side in the war against most of the other Crocodiles, especailly Crooler (and maybe, just maybe, Crominus and/or Crunket would put a stop to Cooler in hipnotising Cragger, and thus Cragger would also join the Lions' side of the war as well, as he was best friends with Laval, the Lion Prince, after all); or would Crominus and/or Crunket would not be thankful for Laval in throwing down a Chi orb, for it was to be out of the Crocodiles' possesion, which was Laval's intention, after all?

I considered the possibility that Crominus and Crunket could happen upon that Chi and use it to escape. In fact, if the show is to mirror the sets, then all they need now to escape would be a Speedor (which that Chi could power). But even if they did escape using it, I don't think it would be motivation for them to join the Lions on its own. Without knowing the facts, there's no way for him to know the Lions were responsible for them getting that Chi. And if they DID know all the facts, I don't think it'd make them that fond of Laval; after all, his intentions when dropping that Chi were far from wholesome. Even though the loss of the Chi may have kept it away from the Crocodile tribe, all it did was escalate tensions between the tribes, and it was a blatant disregard of the rules that had allowed the tribes to live harmoniously for so long.

I'm not saying that they won't join the Lions if they escape, mind. It's just that this mostly-accidental favor would be unlikely to be the impetus for such an alliance.

[Good Cragger Fan]

I belive it was a different hole but it would be interesting if they were to find the orb. But I want to know what the cocequences of Laval disposing of the orb will be, because there was the earthquake near the end of the episode, I wonder what that will bring.

Laval explicitly said to Eris that he his going to throw the Crocodiles' Chi down the Gorge of Eternal Depth -- when she asked him what is he going to do with it, as he can't just put it back in the Chi pool in the Lion Temple nor have any of the other Lions find out about it (especially his father). (I just rewatched episode 3 on dubbedscene.com.)

I considered the possibility that Crominus and Crunket could happen upon that Chi and use it to escape. In fact, if the show is to mirror the sets, then all they need now to escape would be a Speedor (which that Chi could power). But even if they did escape using it, I don't think it would be motivation for them to join the Lions on its own. Without knowing the facts, there's no way for him to know the Lions were responsible for them getting that Chi. And if they DID know all the facts, I don't think it'd make them that fond of Laval; after all, his intentions when dropping that Chi were far from wholesome. Even though the loss of the Chi may have kept it away from the Crocodile tribe, all it did was escalate tensions between the tribes, and it was a blatant disregard of the rules that had allowed the tribes to live harmoniously for so long.

I'm not saying that they won't join the Lions if they escape, mind. It's just that this mostly-accidental favor would be unlikely to be the impetus for such an alliance.

If Crominus and Crunket knew all of the facts, them including the fact that Crooler hipnotised Cragger into doing evil things -- such as him stealing Chi from the Chi Pool in the Lion Temple (as well as the Lions', Goriilas' and Eagles' Chi) and him attacking the Lions and their allies -- while he is King of the Crocodile tribe in his parents' absence, his parents would put a stop to Crooler's evil plans (thus would make an alliance with the Lion tribe), as they care for Cragger and would not want to see him hipnotised by anyone, them never mind Cragger's sister. (Also, who knows what else in which Crooler's orchid will do to Cragger in addition to it hipnotising him -- could it be that the orchid is poisonous to Crocodlie tribe members, thus would make Cragger feel ill and maybe even die from it, or, for that matter, to everyone else in the land of Chima who smells the scent of the orchid? Only time (and us watching future episodes of the TV show) will tell us! ).

Edited April 10, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[Lyichir]

Laval explicitly said to Eris that he his going to throw the Crocodiles' Chi down the Gorge of Eternal Depth -- when she asked him what is he going to do with it, as he can't just put it back in the Chi pool in the Lion Temple nor have any of the other Lions find out about it (especially his father). (I just rewatched episode 3 on dubbedscene.com.)

If Crominus and Crunket knew all of the facts, them including the fact that Crooler hipnotised Cragger into doing evil things -- such as him stealing Chi from the Chi Pool in the Lion Temple (as well as the Lions', Goriilas' and Eagles' Chi) and him attacking the Lions and their allies -- while he is King of the Crocodile tribe in his parents' absence, his parents would put a stop to Crooler's evil plans (thus would make an alliance with the Lion tribe), as they care for Cragger and would not want to see him hipnotised by anyone, them never mind Cragger's sister. (Also, who knows what else in which Crooler's orchid will do to Cragger in addition to it hipnotising him -- could it be that the orchid is poisonous to Crocodlie tribe members, thus would make Cragger feel ill and maybe even die from it, or, for that matter, to everyone else in the land of Chima who smells the scent of the orchid? Only time (and us watching future episodes of the TV show) will tell us! ).

I agree that Crominus and Crunket wouldn't condone Crooler's actions; my point was simply that if Crominus and Crunket were to side with the Lions after escaping, it wouldn't be out of gratitude for the Lions dropping the Chi. There are many very good reasons for them to ally with the Lions, but Laval's accidental role in their potential rescue is not one of them.

[Good Cragger Fan]

I agree that Crominus and Crunket wouldn't condone Crooler's actions; my point was simply that if Crominus and Crunket were to side with the Lions after escaping, it wouldn't be out of gratitude for the Lions dropping the Chi. There are many very good reasons for them to ally with the Lions, but Laval's accidental role in their potential rescue is not one of them.

That may be true there, but I still would think that Crominus and Crunket will still show at least some gratitude towards Laval for him throwing Chi down there, even if it meant to stop Crooler and hipnotised Cragger from using Chi for their (mainly Crooler's) evil purposes, if and when they do escape the Gorge of Eternal Depth. This is precisely why I really, really do not like in LEGO protraying Crominus as a villain on the box art of Boulder Bowling, Cragger's Command Ship and, with the new pictures of the Croc Lair Hideout set, the Croc Lair Hideout, as it goes completely against what already happened (and what will probably happen) in the TV show!

[krystalKING]

I managed to figure out some stuff from the fourth episode. (WARNING, SPOILERS)

There is a map seen at the end of episode three, this is a map of mount Cavora, and in episode four there are beavers, working for Cragger. What do beavers do?

They dam up rivers.

Cragger is going to try and dam up mount Cavora, taking control of the Chi before it even gets to the lions.

Brickapedia seems to have reported this on the beaver page, and I find it interested that Eris introduced Laval to them. Maybe the Eagles aren't as solitary as I thought?

One other quick note, my friend said the next episode is due sometime in mid-may early june.

Edited April 22, 2013 by krystalKING

[CM4Sci]

I managed to figure out some stuff from the fourth episode. (WARNING, SPOILERS)

There is a map seen at the end of episode three, this is a map of mount Cavora, and in episode four there are beavers, working for Cragger. What do beavers do?

They dam up rivers.

Cragger is going to try and dam up mount Cavora, taking control of the Chi before it even gets to the lions.

Brickapedia seems to have reported this on the beaver page, and I find it interested that Eris introduced Laval to them. Maybe the Eagles aren't as solitary as I thought?

One other quick note, my friend said the next episode is due sometime in mid-may early june.

It was also in the trailer, the big dam thing:

-Sci

[Good Cragger Fan]

I managed to figure out some stuff from the fourth episode. (WARNING, SPOILERS)

There is a map seen at the end of episode three, this is a map of mount Cavora, and in episode four there are beavers, working for Cragger. What do beavers do?

They dam up rivers.

Cragger is going to try and dam up mount Cavora, taking control of the Chi before it even gets to the lions.

Brickapedia seems to have reported this on the beaver page, and I find it interested that Eris introduced Laval to them. Maybe the Eagles aren't as solitary as I thought?

One other quick note, my friend said the next episode is due sometime in mid-may early june.

That would make sense about the Beavers in damming up the river that flows from Mount Cavora to stop the flow of Chi from going into the Lion Temple and thus would allow Cragger and his allies to take control of the Chi that flows from Mount Cavora. However, I wonder what motivated the Beavers in join the bad side of the war and thus help Cragger (in his hipnotised state) and Crooler in gaining control of all of the Chi in the land of Chima, so does anyone know what motivated the Beavers in doing that?

"krystalKING", I thank you for the information on when episode 4 might air in the US (and soon after in Canada), as I cannot wait much longer than now. (I consider episodes 1 through 4 (or maybe even 5) as a multi-part story or episode, which means that they should all be aired at or around the same time, such as once a week for 4 to 5 weeks, one after another there, not months apart from each other.)

Edited April 23, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[krystalKING]

SPOILERS

They appear to want work, meaning that they will fix Lagravis tank.

[Good Cragger Fan]

SPOILERS

They appear to want work, meaning that they will fix Lagravis tank.

Therefore, they may not be true villains, since they are being taken advantage of there by the Crocodiles, especially Cragger (in his hipnotised state) and, of course (but indirectly), Crooler, and the Wolves and Ravens. Because of this, they could very easily switch sides. [This is especially true when they actually find out that what they're doing there is actually blocking the flow of Chi to the Lion Temple, which would mean that Cragger (in his hipnotised state), Crooler and most of the other Crocodiles and all of the Wolves and Ravens could (and probably would) gain complete control of the Chi, thus leave none to anyone else in the land of Chima, them including the Beavers. Therefore, the Beavers would be angry with most of the Crocodiles -- Crominus and Crunket are not included among them, as they are trapped in the Gorge of Eternal Depth and thus not involved in the current confict with the Lions and their allies -- and all of the Wolves and Ravens for them (the Crocodiles, Wolves and Ravens) in tricking and taking advantage of them (the Beavers) for the fact that they (the Beavers) love doing work, since they (the Beavers) do not like to be lied to there in terms of what purpose in which the work that is offered to them will do to the land of Chima and its inhabbitants, which is probably what the Crocodiles, Wolves and Ravens are doing there just to get the Beavers to work for them, so the Beavers would probably seek revenge on most of the Crocodiles and all of the Wolves and Ravens and thus join the Lions and their allies in the war against them.]

Edited April 24, 2013 by Good Cragger Fan

[PenPlays]

The first two episodes will be available on DVD on June 11th!

Wish it was the full season.

Source: Lego Club Magazine May/June 2013 issue.