lotryay Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Sorry to keep on bothering people about stuff like this. Anyway, as I understand it, there was one universe prior to the Ultimate universe, which was the 616, which all characters of the marvel universe would subscribe to (a multiverse). After 2000, a new multiverse was created, the Ultimates. But then, my question is, if there was just one multiverse prior to 2000, how come there were many different existing titles for characters such as spider-man (amazing spider-man, spectactular spider-man, sensational spider-man). Did all of these titles correspond to the same universe? And am I right in presuming there is only one title for spider-man in the ultimate universe (ultimate spider-man)? Also, is the amazing spider-man in the 616 comics just one long story spread out over the 600 or so issues it has produced, or is the series rebooted every so often in a new comic? Thankyou very much for your time. Edited June 19, 2012 by lotryay Quote
Hobbestimus Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Prior to the Ultimate Universe there were still many Marvel Universes, but that's getting ahead of ourselves. The best way to think of it, IMO, is there is the MAIN Marvel Universe, which they call 616. It's the foundation, in a narrative sense, for almost everything. This is the Universe which has been published for decades and which Stan Lee and Co. were the architects of. Technically I believe the concept of the Marvel Multiverse started with Uatu The Watcher. Marvel published a series called "What If..." wherein a cosmic being dubbed "The Watcher" would show the reader different universes, where the Marvel Universe was skewed slightly in some way. This was the first time "other" Marvel Universe were explored. The Ultimate Universe can be thought of as one of these universes. It just happens to the be the alternate universe with the most stories published about it. When it comes to one character with multiple titles, like Spider-Man, yes those are generally all in the same universe or continuity. Usually the stories in these titles can be read without involving yourself in the other titles, but if you do read the other titles you get a bigger picture of Spidey's day-to-day goings ons. These titles will link up the big picture stuff - if Spider-Man's marriage is in trouble, it might be something he's worried about in all the titles, for example. Hope that's at all helpful. I know it can be confusing. At least isn't DC... Quote
lotryay Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 Thanks. And I'm guessing avengers vs. x-men is part of the 616? Quote
Hobbestimus Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Thanks. And I'm guessing avengers vs. x-men is part of the 616? Yes, the 616 houses the Avengers, X-Men, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Ghost Rider, Blade, Daredevil and pretty much every Marvel character you've ever heard of before.All of these characters have different variations in the other universes, but that almost always stems from playing with the ideas originally introduced in the 616 universe. Quote
Bilbo Baggins Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 Is the universe in Avengers vs. X-men the same as in Civil War? Quote
sologuy369 Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Can someone give me a history of winter soldier. I plan to get the ultimate collection, so please no spoilers. I would more so like publication history and when he first appeared, notable appearances and upcoming editions, etc. And were should I start with him. Quote
dr jones Posted July 9, 2012 Posted July 9, 2012 Is the universe in Avengers vs. X-men the same as in Civil War? yup, it is. Quote
Bilbo Baggins Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Is MARVEL NOW! The same universe as 616? Quote
def Posted August 4, 2012 Posted August 4, 2012 Sorry to keep on bothering people about stuff like this. Anyway, as I understand it, there was one universe prior to the Ultimate universe, which was the 616, which all characters of the marvel universe would subscribe to (a multiverse). After 2000, a new multiverse was created, the Ultimates. But then, my question is, if there was just one multiverse prior to 2000, how come there were many different existing titles for characters such as spider-man (amazing spider-man, spectactular spider-man, sensational spider-man). Did all of these titles correspond to the same universe? And am I right in presuming there is only one title for spider-man in the ultimate universe (ultimate spider-man)? Also, is the amazing spider-man in the 616 comics just one long story spread out over the 600 or so issues it has produced, or is the series rebooted every so often in a new comic? Thankyou very much for your time. For a long time, the stories in the different Spider titles had a theme, like Amazing covered Spider-man's homelife and college buddies (like Flash), another handled Daily Bugle stuff. Then a few years back, the titles were all consolidated into Amazing, which came out three times a month... That was a little intense, so it's monthly now, and there is a new title, Avenging Spider-Man, which is pretty much a team-up book, Spider-Man and another hero, usually an Avenger. When you say "one long story," it's hard to call it that. Most comics have a set continuity, where what came before happened, but whenever a new creative team starts on a book, a lot of old plotlines get abandoned, and some ideas get taken out. So, while it's one big story, there is no need to read most of it. I would call it a soft-reboot when creative teams come in. The last big re-boot was Brand New Day (google it) when Amazing Spider-Man went three times a month, and there were some good stories there, though not great. If you want to get into Spider-Man now, it's hard to say where to turn. There have been a lot of great stories, but they might not read quite as well to a new fan. I love the 70's stuff, but it is a lot more dense than what comes out now. But, you may want to surf through this page, a great geek site's top voted Spider-Man stories http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/category/50-greatest-spider-man-stories/ Can someone give me a history of winter soldier. I plan to get the ultimate collection, so please no spoilers. I would more so like publication history and when he first appeared, notable appearances and upcoming editions, etc. And were should I start with him. He appeared in the third volume of Captain America, by Brubaker and Epting. It's a pretty awesome series, and though it's expensive, the omnibus edition (issues 1-25) is the easiest way to get the story. You might need to get a trade or two after that to see how it turns out. Really addictive. http://www.amazon.com/Captain-America-Omnibus-Vol-1/dp/0785128662/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344063107&sr=8-1&keywords=captain+america+omnibus Is MARVEL NOW! The same universe as 616? Yes, it's just a marketing tag. Marvel does it every two years or so, as an excuse to launch new titles. I think it's a little confusing myself. Quote
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