Burf2000 Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 So I was lucky enough to win a set of 3 of these off Botbench.com in last months competition. As I build big, I wanted to know what kind of weight these could move under normal XL motors. Nothing fancy, just a simple test. I am pretty impressed with the 15 minute moc platform and how much it moved. I am pretty sure with some gearing I would get well over 20KG. The wheels can take 35kg each, however I doubt the Lego axels can. Did someone mention metal axels? :) For more info on the wheels, visit http://www.rotacaster.com.au/robotics-wheels.html Quote
timslegos Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 very impressive build. it is a shame that those wheels are so expensive. tim Quote
Burf2000 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Posted December 8, 2011 I do see your point however there still cheaper than some of the rarer Lego wheels e.g Hailfire Droid wheels and Power Puller :) If your interested in getting some, maybe worth dropping them an email. Quote
KEvron Posted December 8, 2011 Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) does it come with cup holders? (i'm gonna get endless mileage outta that gag!) KEvron Edited December 8, 2011 by KEvron Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 does it come with cup holders? (i'm gonna get endless mileage outta that gag!) KEvron No i don't think so Why don't you use a technic turntable with some small 'city wheels' in it? Quote
Burf2000 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 I can add a cup holder if required lol Quote
asielen Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 How is maneuverability and speed with the wheels? Do they have good traction or do they tend to spin out with faster speeds (or slippery surfaces)? Quote
Burf2000 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 The outer rings on the wheels are soft rubber so stick really well. I would not use these wheels for drifting lol. The speed at which the vehicle moves without load is pretty quick and manoeuvrability is very good. If there is something you want me to test, let me know Quote
AussieJimbo Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Nice little demonstrator. It can certainly move a lot of weight. The Rotacaster wheels look nice and solid with lots of potential. http://www.rotacaster.com.au/robotics-wheels.html http://www.rotacaster.com.au/shop/category/cat10325/Rotacaster_Robotic_Wheels_Lego_NXT_Compatible.html :classic: Quote
Ape Fight Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Thank you so much for this!! Not so much for the wheels, but for showing what XL motors can do; I have a model that weighs 4.5KG, powered by 4 XLs motors. These were geared down twice, from 8 tooth to 24 tooth, and again 8 tooth to 24 tooth, and yet I was busting cogs and even twisted (like a corkscrew!) two 5 long axels that were held in place every other stud. I thought I'd exceeded what Lego was capable of, but then I saw this and wondered why my model was smashing pieces and yet this, weighing 3 times as much, was fine. It turns out I had wildly underestimated the torque of XL motors, and geared them down so much they had enough twisting force to simply twist bricks to pieces. I've now removed one set of cogs gearing the model down - and it runs beautifully. No busted bricks so far, and it's so much faster it's a joy to drive! Awesome stuff : ) Thanks again Quote
Burf2000 Posted December 9, 2011 Author Posted December 9, 2011 Thank you so much for this!! Not so much for the wheels, but for showing what XL motors can do; I have a model that weighs 4.5KG, powered by 4 XLs motors. These were geared down twice, from 8 tooth to 24 tooth, and again 8 tooth to 24 tooth, and yet I was busting cogs and even twisted (like a corkscrew!) two 5 long axels that were held in place every other stud. I thought I'd exceeded what Lego was capable of, but then I saw this and wondered why my model was smashing pieces and yet this, weighing 3 times as much, was fine. It turns out I had wildly underestimated the torque of XL motors, and geared them down so much they had enough twisting force to simply twist bricks to pieces. I've now removed one set of cogs gearing the model down - and it runs beautifully. No busted bricks so far, and it's so much faster it's a joy to drive! Awesome stuff : ) Thanks again Hey there, I have learned similar lesson building big robots. With XL motors you need short axels and I try for direct drive. However if I need to use cogs, I use at least 2 sets in parallel per motor else things just break! They are amazing motors, my next robot will hopefully use 4 per track :) Quote
Ape Fight Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 Hey there, I have learned similar lesson building big robots. With XL motors you need short axels and I try for direct drive. However if I need to use cogs, I use at least 2 sets in parallel per motor else things just break! They are amazing motors, my next robot will hopefully use 4 per track :) I realised that one pretty quick too! My cogs are doubled, and also have pins pushed through where possible to take the load off the central cross hole. I just never realised that XLs don't really need gearing down to any large degree, as they're so torquey anyway, until you posted that video : ) Great job Quote
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