def Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 What have I done that makes me scummy? You're great with these random hypothosis, but you fail to ever say why you think something. I tried to help, you're such a hypocrite, you say, 'you need to help more'. Then when I try to help you call me scum. You're overconfident and obnoxious. What am I supposed to say? That's the thing with these games, people will have suspicions for no reason and never listen. Review day one. You made equally non-true statements about me then. Here's the thing: there are a few somewhat confirmed town. Everybody has night actions. If you're not trying to work together, you're working against us. And you're not trying to work together. So, either you're scum, or your an unhelpful townie. I don't know which. Let's look at what's true and not true here: 1. You're great with these random hypothosis, but you fail to ever say why you think something. Really? I didn't explain myself over and over again to guys like you who don't pay attention anyway 2. I tried to help, you're such a hypocrite, you say, 'you need to help more'. Then when I try to help you call me scum. What help? You want to vote for the Ventriloquist, who we were voting for yesterday. Thanks What I mean by help is giving us an idea how you're working to help us behind the scenes. Most people are cooperative and working together. Not you. You stick out like a sore-thumb. 3. You're overconfident and obnoxious. Overconfident? Not at all. Even on day one, I never made out like I knew 100% that Catwoman was scum. And now, I'm not saying you are scum. I think you're scummy. Very different. Obnoxious? Yeah, maybe But this is just playing. Of course, the only other person to get so irritated here was Catwoman, before we lynched her scummy megablocks 4. That's the thing with these games, people will have suspicions for no reason and never listen. I've explained my reasons, so that's not true. Now, what do you want me to listen to? Rather than scum-flailing, why not work together to show me you're not scum? Show, don't tell
Rumble Strike Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Lots of accusations flying about already, I see. I think it's clear that there are two people we need to look at, as I have said before. I don't think Ventriloquist's defence is strong enough at this stage, and who knows when Ra's will let us know what's going on with him, that's something I would really like to hear. I will admit I have not been talking as much as others due to other gaming commitments on EB, but I always try to keep on top of this discussion and vote for someone. So far one scum and one townie, I expect most have that record with Bane not convincing many people.
ADHO15 Posted November 20, 2011 Author Posted November 20, 2011 Deceased - Catwoman - played by CallMePieOrDie - Undercover Agent - lynched on Day One - Bane - played by Masked Builder - Criminal - lynched on Day Two - Calendar Man - played by Bob_ - Criminal - killed on Day Three - The Riddler - played by sok117 - Criminal - killed on Day Three
WhiteFang Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Huh??? Now how did the hell we manage to kill someone and even 2 in bloody mid-day?? What kind of joke is this? And, they manage to get both of them! I didn't even see it coming that we had lost our comrades right now, so suddenly.
Jedi master Brick Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Crap, we lost our investigator, now we have to get working
def Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Well, we certainly are in a worse place than we were a few hours ago. I thought Simon the Pieman was helping us Dear Riddler, and to a lesser extent, Calendar Man, you will be missed.
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 How? How did this happen? Why Joker? Why did they die?
WhiteFang Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 I finally understood why Calendar Man is dead... And, it is my fault. I better come clean with you guys. Whoever is claiming that he is the bus driver (pro-townie role), I will bash and cobble you myself. Last night, I targeted someone's night action and target onto Calendar Man. I didn't have any idea of what Deadshot is capable of, even though some of you had speculated him to be the one of the unconfirmed killer. Last night, I took it to my own hands and I used Deadshot's selected night action, it ended up the death of the Calendar Man. One thing which puzzled me, is why did the death happens only in mid-day and not last night? That is something that I can't figured out. In addition to that, I am very certain and sure that Deadshot can kill people at night and I don't know whether if he is on the criminal's side and not on the agents' side. I will let you guys decide and think it through.
def Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 And, it is my fault. I better come clean with you guys. Whoever is claiming that he is the bus driver (pro-townie role), I will bash and cobble you myself. And I have to explain to you again that you aren't the bus driver Your role doesn't state that you replace someone. You simply copy them... Saying that out loud though, the two deaths make sense You copied Deadshot, and when Deadshot made a day kill, you did too. Alright, change of plans for me. I will be lynching Deadshot I sure hope some of you can help me If that wasn't clear enough, Deadshot killed the Riddler
Nightshroud99 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Great we just lost two more townies criminals including our investigator and whoever Calendar man was... During the day no less, which shouldn't be surprising due to the wide range of abilities each of us possesses. However, perhaps we should metagame and figure out who the obvious gunslinger was.
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Well done Creeper. Yet again finding us a scumbag. I too support the lynch of deadshot.
WhiteFang Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 And I have to explain to you again that you aren't the bus driver Your role doesn't state that you replace someone. You simply copy them... Saying that out loud though, the two deaths make sense You copied Deadshot, and when Deadshot made a day kill, you did too. Alright, change of plans for me. I will be lynching Deadshot I sure hope some of you can help me Thank you, dear Creeper for enlighten me. I didn't even realised what had happened, and your logic has certainly put this into proper perspective. For sure, I knew where my vote is going to.
Tamamono Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 The dashing Creeper: So what did you do with Deadshot last night? You can tell me, I won't tell anybody else liar Ventriloquist: Deadshot? I protected Kiel. The ribald Creeper: Okay, we'll have to vote you out for that then. Sorry liar Ventriloquist: Do what you will with this information. Wait, he claimed that he had targeted Doll? I was under the impression that he had promised beforehand to protect Doll and then the tracker found that he targeted Deadshot instead. With this new piece of info about Deadshot being the scum killer, I think it's possible that Wesker is the scum bodyguard. I think it's clear that the Ventriloquist is scum. Flat out lying about "blocking" someone... if I recall correctly, Doll wasn't even blocked to begin with. I agree, but he said he was protecting them, not blocking them. That's not quite it. He claimed to both of us that he'd targeted Babydoll, but we knew it wasn't true. When pressed, he claimed to have been bussed. I'll need to go through Day Two again to see what happened. That's strange. Usually, when you get bussed, you get a message explaining that you targeted the other target instead. There is no 'I was probably bussed' involved. Either you were bussed or you weren't, and frankly, I don't think Wesker was. - Calendar Man - played by Bob_ - Criminal - killed on Day Three - The Riddler - played by sok117 - Criminal - killed on Day Three Damn, it looks like Nygma got poached. And Calender Man too! I've heard of poisonings, but I've never heard of someone getting shot in the middle of the day... And I have to explain to you again that you aren't the bus driver Your role doesn't state that you replace someone. You simply copy them... Saying that out loud though, the two deaths make sense You copied Deadshot, and when Deadshot made a day kill, you did too. Alright, change of plans for me. I will be lynching Deadshot I sure hope some of you can help me So that means that Deadshot is really the scum day-killer. In that case, I know where my vote's going today!
def Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Wait, he claimed that he had targeted Doll? I was under the impression that he had promised beforehand to protect Doll and then the tracker found that he targeted Deadshot instead. With this new piece of info about Deadshot being the scum killer, I think it's possible that Wesker is the scum bodyguard. Ah, that's a great thought! On the chance that the Ventiloquist wasn't a total liar, I was thinking, if he got bussed, then Deadshot would be Criminal. The Agents wouldn't risk having someone target their own. But, if Deadshot is scum, then the Ventriloquist too will be scum They should have some defenses, so maybe he is a scum protector. Only one way to find out.
Brickdoctor Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 That certainly changes things. I am really confused where Ventriloquist and Clayface's actions are concerned, right now, and, unfortunately, it's looking like they're the key to this whole mess on our hands. So, let me try to get this straight: Ventriloquist claims the be a Protector, and his case doesn't have anything to do with the Blocker role. Ventriloquist claims to have tried to protect Baby Doll on Night One, but was redirected to Deadshot. His case has nothing to do with Croc. Clay Face is confused about his action, but Creeper claims to knows that Clay Face's action is to mimic someone else's action on another target. Clay Face claims to have decided on Night Two to mimic Deadshot and target Calendar Man. Calendar Man and the Riddler are now dead. Is that right?
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yes. You have got the general idea. So, Deadshot seems likely. But the fact is, Riddler is dead. Deadshot killed him, our investigator. So do we have a choice? Yes. You have got the general idea. So, Deadshot seems likely. But the fact is, Riddler is dead. Deadshot killed him, our investigator. So do we have a choice?
Brickdoctor Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yes. You have got the general idea. So, Deadshot seems likely. So do we have a choice? Of course we have a choice. There is always a choice. Remember that the only truly 'confirmed Townies' are dead Townies at the end of the situation. There's always the risk of someone lying, and while that's a risk you have to take, it also means that there is really no such thing as one 'confirmed Scum' choice for a lynch. But the fact is, Riddler is dead. Thank you for stating the useless obvious while using a conjunction that implies that I couldn't have figured out that Riddler was dead.
Nightshroud99 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yes. You have got the general idea. So, Deadshot seems likely. But the fact is, Riddler is dead. Deadshot killed him, our investigator. So do we have a choice? Yes. You have got the general idea. So, Deadshot seems likely. But the fact is, Riddler is dead. Deadshot killed him, our investigator. So do we have a choice? Thank you for your infallible insight into this situation we are in. Bravo good scum, because you have offered nothing of value thus far these past three days.
Scorpiox Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 And I have to explain to you again that you aren't the bus driver Your role doesn't state that you replace someone. You simply copy them... Saying that out loud though, the two deaths make sense You copied Deadshot, and when Deadshot made a day kill, you did too. Alright, change of plans for me. I will be lynching Deadshot I sure hope some of you can help me If that wasn't clear enough, Deadshot killed the Riddler He he. It appears something has come up! This is conformation enough for me, thanks guys. Deadshot kills Riddler, Clay copies him = Deadshot scum and Wesker also. He mustn't have got bussed, simply tried to protect his scum buddy. Oh, but dangit, we just lost our investigator, hope his result will help us in future. Keep a look out guys, it appears we have two days of scum convictions to be happy with.
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yes, but Ra's has not commented at all. I did not vote for bane, but I did vote for Catwoman. And I am not a scum. But I have offered use behind the scenes.
Scorpiox Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Offered use behind the scenes have you? Anyone here care to confirm this, or are you just lying?
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 BabyDoll, care to confirm I have spoke to you in private?
Brickdoctor Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Yes, but Ra's has not commented at all. I did not vote for bane, but I did vote for Catwoman. Voting for Scum and not voting for Town doesn't automatically vindicate you. Not likely on its own and certainly not as early in the situation as in the middle of Day 3. We already knew Ra's was quiet. I fail to see the relevance of your statement concerning him.
TheBoyWonder Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 What I meant is okay, some of my public comments are a bit obvious, but others do not talk at all. So they have been of less help.
Brickdoctor Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 What I meant is okay, some of my public comments are a bit obvious, but others do not talk at all. So they have been of less help. Let's return to the apples, shall we?If I have a rotten apple and a soft, bruised apple, the soft, bruised apple is better than the rotten apple, but that doesn't make it a good apple. If I see a person who says nothing at all and a person who says things that really don't help, the person who says things that really don't help is more helpful than the person who says nothing, but that doesn't make him a helpful person.
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