wokajablocka Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 This is awsome. This will make a nice addition to my Kingdoms Theme. I love every thing about this set. Quote
Piranha Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) That is a great scenario, but it does not explain why his plume and tent are the Dragon colors. Anyway, they obviously designed his armor and horse barding to be an all-purpose Black Knight that can go into any faction, or just be independent... A smart design move. I think I will change his plume and tent to blue or dark blue, as a nod to the 80s sets, and use my blue guys as his squires. Yeah this is what I am starting to think as well, the Black Falcon could have been put in with such generic parts to be good in any faction (But I hope they give him a new torso/legs/face print still in the final release) . Although I still don't get the dark green and I will be replacing it with either dark blue or regular blue. I wonder if the old style of plumes fit in the new bucket helmets, I have both but I am too lazy to try it. a bit off topic but do you think the Barbarian or Scottish Highlander from S6 is appropriate to the Kingdoms time frame? Edited October 4, 2011 by Macoco Quote
Artanis I Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Aesthetically speaking this set is meant to have the two towers facing back to back but there in lies a problem . Considering the detail that is on the inside of the towers and the positioning of the pins playability will be reduced or in effect not be capable if the two tower are attached as Lego suggests in the pictures . Of course one would like to think that there would be instructions that allows the tower to be opened up but like I said the positioning of the pins on both the top and bottom suggest a sense of permanent fixture of both halves . Therefore its only through some heavy mocing would any playability within the tower`s interior be achieved . I hope I am wrong though . By permanent I meant playability without having to pull both halves apart but that also means having to moved the flags on the top of the roof as they are moved over to the middle of the two towers . Is there any evidence of a hinge mechanism ? The building is modular, therefore you can easily pick up each level separately from those underneath. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I think you're right… Via Bluesecrets at Classic-Castle.com. Quote
allx Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 The building is very nice... But what is it? Quote
Piranha Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) The building is very nice... But what is it? I don't really know myself some sort of gate or entry way for the knights I guess? a great set but a tournament pit for hand combat, feast/market area and bleachers with more peasants/farm animals I would have liked better than the gate. Edited October 4, 2011 by Macoco Quote
metalandi Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 To me it looks like an medieval city gate. Quote
Zeya Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I would definitely buy that set, but TLG generally plays their gender politics very conservative. It will be a cold day in Hell before they release a set that shows a female knight winning any tournament, let alone winning the Princess' hand in marriage. On a related tangent, this set has me looking forward to lots of Song of Ice and Fire (AKA Game of Thrones) MOCs to come in the next couple of years. She doesn't have to win the daughter's hand in marriage, just win to show that women are equals. To me, it sounds like a movie plot, which I probably saw a long time ago. Wait, maybe Lord of the Rings at the end? But I agree, I doubt they would do that. And with these preliminary shots, they show they'd rather reuse old bodies that clash instead of a new torso. I am still excited for this set. Oh, I understood that. But the premise of the set is that the winner gets to marry the princess, and conservative parent groups everywhere would be up in arms at the mere possibility of that outcome. I agree though, it's a very cool set as it is, and I guess we'll have to come up with our own subversive stories to go with it. Ha, I wasn't even thinking of any sort of betrothal implications if a woman were to fight in a jousting tournament. In fact, I thought those sort of things were more or less like a big party (except more serious and deadly, you know, medieval). Sort of the same thing as a Ben Hur chariot race or a gladiator melee match. I didn't know there was a betrothal aspect to it. Even so... I would like to meet the person who gets all huffy and up in arms about a female jouster. What a thing to get angry about. Also about the George Martin books. I'm at the end of Game of Thrones right now. Can't wait to get onto the second book! This set does make me think of the jousting scene early on. Speaking of which, nobody got betrothed to anyone in there. I think one or two of the princesses or ladies threw their flowers to the winner or something and generally swooned over the contestants, but nobody got married from it. Maybe the marriage thing is strictly from fairy tales, or that fairy tales just exaggerate the outcome/stakes of a jousting event. Regardless of role, it would be nice to have a female knight of any sort. Classic Pirates has a female pirate in the crew. We all know the rote about the target market, young boys, and how girls have cooties. But if Lego reads this and takes suggestions like some have speculated they do, then... Hi there, TLG. How about a female knight? You could just put her in the next big, expensive exclusive castle/Kingdoms set and I think we would all consider that to be a big selling point. Thanks! Quote
Delta 38 Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Wow, nice! Looks a lot better with two combined, but obviously more costly. The Black Falcon knight looks pretty nice. I wish they were in Kingdoms more, maybe in a smaller jousting set or something. They would make a pretty good neutral team, and the black/white colour scheme does seem to highlight that. Edited October 4, 2011 by Delta 38 Quote
JasonV Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 What an amazing set Would anyone know if this signals the end of the Kingdom line for the time being? I remember reading a post here that said the Lego exclusives are usually the big send off, like with the Imperial Flagship and Medieval Market Village. Quote
Stiel Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Excellent, high quality set! Most has been said, so I'm just going to add one minor thing: that I like the tents as an idea. I will take out the weapons at once, but after that, they are perfectly reasonable small tents, and if you add more factions to the joust (7187 and 7009 come to mind), you can play around with making new tents in the proper colors with slightly different designs. Quote
Gryphon Ink Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Maybe the marriage thing is strictly from fairy tales, or that fairy tales just exaggerate the outcome/stakes of a jousting event. Yes, as far as I know no real-world princess ever got handed off to a knight just because he had the good luck of defeating everyone else in a tournament. But that's the story of this set as far as I can tell from the TLG/Eurobricks description in the first post. I figure it makes a classic story for the kids to play out, so IMO it's like horns on a Viking helmet: historically inaccurate, but cool nonetheless. Quote
BTappel Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 High five to LEGO! Seems like the Kingdoms sets keep getting better and better. I am excited to connect this with pieces from the Kings Castle and see what emerges! While I hope this does not signal the end of the kingdoms line, this is still epic. Quote
prvi svog imena Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Also about the George Martin books. I'm at the end of Game of Thrones right now. Can't wait to get onto the second book! This set does make me think of the jousting scene early on. Speaking of which, nobody got betrothed to anyone in there. I think one or two of the princesses or ladies threw their flowers to the winner or something and generally swooned over the contestants, but nobody got married from it. Maybe the marriage thing is strictly from fairy tales, or that fairy tales just exaggerate the outcome/stakes of a jousting event. Jorah Mormont did, did you get to that part? I am not telling more :) But if the green princess is a Dragon princess, she is a captive, no doubt... What is with the LEGO castle parenting story here? A green princess in this set, a red princess in the Prison tower rescue, as if LEGO parents do not care for their daughters? Same was in the pirates set, Brickbeard's bounty, although they did mobilize the Imperial flagship to rescue her. Hope they are not planning some big catapult Dragon knights' set to rescue the green princess (if there is any new set from kingdoms to be expected). Quote
Fives Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 The set is now viewable (at least in Canada) on LEGO Shop @ Home. Nothing new, but the main pic they show is of one set. Quote
Piranha Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) Jorah Mormont did, did you get to that part? I am not telling more :) But if the green princess is a Dragon princess, she is a captive, no doubt... What is with the LEGO castle parenting story here? A green princess in this set, a red princess in the Prison tower rescue, as if LEGO parents do not care for their daughters? Same was in the pirates set, Brickbeard's bounty, although they did mobilize the Imperial flagship to rescue her. Hope they are not planning some big catapult Dragon knights' set to rescue the green princess (if there is any new set from kingdoms to be expected). Maybe its the same princess for the Lion Knights wearing a different dress? After all this sets fig lineup could have been terrible imagine we got all repeat figs, the Lion Princess from the Tower Rescue set, a regular Dragon Knight with the old barding from the prison gate and the same prince/noble, this set could have had not one new fig but good thing TLG changed it up so we get at least three new figs and the queen is HTF. Well that is the way I think of it. The noble as TLG calls him is actually more like the Prince than the actual Prince in the advent calender Edited October 4, 2011 by Macoco Quote
David Thomsen Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 The set is now viewable (at least in Canada) on LEGO Shop @ Home. Nothing new, but the main pic they show is of one set. Yes this is on S@H New Zealand as well, for $249.99... that would make it $499.98 for two sets... have to figure out how much I really need two copies of this set. I think we have it the most expensive. I will definitely be looking into alternative overseas purchasing options for this. If only Amazon.co.uk offered free delivery on Exclusive sets. Quote
crossmr Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 (edited) US $119.99 CA $149.99 And you lost me.. the currency has been floating around par for some time now, and they're still nearly equal. These kinds of pricing practices are fairly insulting to me as a customer. Otherwise it's a rather nice set that I wish I had room for, well I wish I had room for all my old Lego right now.. Edited October 4, 2011 by crossmr Quote
Ardelon Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 I agree with those who would have preferred more of a medieval fair atmosphere, without the tower and lion guards, and with a 3rd (or even a 4th!) faction included, a a jester thrown in as well. Maybe even a bear (new mold!) on a chain, though TLG wouldn’t go that far in portraying cruelty to animals, no matter how authentic. What we’re missing is a decent archery tournament (I’ll tempt you with a forestman fig ). Maybe one day TLG will make a whole fair subtheme, with knights, archers, jesters, vendors, fortune tellers, a thief/pickpocket, etc . Yeah, wishfull thinking on my part, and it would probably seem boring to the KFOLs. Oh well, that’s what imagination and MOCs are for. Quote
Lordofdragonss Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Oh great, so I will have to decide to get this or The village? Ahh It's so beautiful! These prints! Quote
RichardRobins Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I really like this, however I will most likely just bricklink the figs for my own collection XD Quote
Haltiamieli Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I agree with those who would have preferred more of a medieval fair atmosphere, without the tower and lion guards, and with a 3rd (or even a 4th!) faction included, a a jester thrown in as well. While I wouldn't have minded that either, TLC apparently wanted to serve us a different sort of treat than the Medieval Market Village, and it would be quite hard to include a lot of interesting and impressive Lego building in a "medieval fair approach" without just putting in another MMV-style house or two. I think that's the reason why they chose the tower gate as the main structure. Last time they challenged us to design medieval houses, now they challenge us to castle building. I think that's very cool too. While more tournament participants would have been nice, I agree that they were rightly the expendable thing when the set had to be trimmed to an economically and marketably feasible entity. More participants are easily added from other existing sets, not to mention that TLC will certainly release new tournament-applicable mounted knights once in a while as long as the Castle theme keeps going. This is not to say that I would find the set perfect as it is. I would gladly change one of the Lion guards to a Black Falcon squire (though I understand the point about the mystery knight participating alone) or a random spectator/peasant or, well, just about anything really. A peasant at least wouldn't probably even make the set much costlier if they would have used parts already in production from the Mill Village Raid. Also, I'm not a fan of the blue shack. I understand that it's probably meant to tie the set to MMV, but the building just doesn't impress me (yes, I know it's small, I took it into consideration) and I think the pieces would have been better used elsewhere, like making the tents bigger or adding an archery range, a food vendor or a tree. Also, stairs. Where are they? Quote
UCSProductions1 Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 This set does look pretty good and has a fair price if I can rack up enough Lego VIP points to get at least a twenty dollar discount I will probably buy it. The figures are fine but the only ones that are worth it are the knights. I will probably have to get a green base plate as well to put under this because it would slide around to much if put on display on a smooth surface. Quote
David Thomsen Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 (edited) Also, I'm not a fan of the blue shack. I understand that it's probably meant to tie the set to MMV, but the building just doesn't impress me (yes, I know it's small, I took it into consideration) and I think the pieces would have been better used elsewhere, like making the tents bigger or adding an archery range, a food vendor or a tree. I agree that the tents are quite small, but if you buy two set it looks like it would be very easy to make them twice as big. An archery range would have been great though, as an alternative kind of duel. I think the blue shack doesn't look so good because unlike the MMV and the bridge tower, it has a deliberately ramshackle look, so a less clean design. I think it can be easily fixed, though. Not sure why the windows are poking out like that though, is this a common enough architectural feature? Also, stairs. Where are they? They would have probably taken up the entire two floors, and been doubled up when two sets are placed together. I don't mind so much because when you put two sets together, it'll be hard to notice the lack of stairs anyway. Edited October 6, 2011 by David Thomsen Quote
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