Heroica RPG General Discussion

[Flipz]

*snip*

Hee ha ha hee ha ha! That was awesome!

It makes me think a lot of WBD's QM style, actually. Everyday life in Eubric and the like. I wish more QMs did that, it's a great way to add life to the Quest, and to Eubric in general.

[Sandy]

Gasp! The Crimson Reaper is an assassin wearing a monochromatic robe and is using a bladed weapon while referencing his Code of Conduct, or "Creed", if you will! It must be a reference to Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed video game series!

I said that not everything is a nod to pop culture, but obviously most of my creations are.

It makes me think a lot of WBD's QM style, actually. Everyday life in Eubric and the like. I wish more QMs did that, it's a great way to add life to the Quest, and to Eubric in general.

Both quests were originally going to be very quick and straightforward, but I decided to spice them up a bit with extra scenes, npcs and battles. What wouldn't I do for your entertainment?

[Endgame]

Maybe I'm just being misled by the gaming half of me, but is "The Fountain of the Three Gods" a refrence to the Three Goddesses of the Legend of Zelda games?

[Flipz]

Maybe I'm just being misled by the gaming half of me, but is "The Fountain of the Three Gods" a refrence to the Three Goddesses of the Legend of Zelda games?

Gasp! You mean, the real you has a split personality as well?

Sorry, had to be said.

[Brickdoctor]

I said that not everything is a nod to pop culture, but obviously most of my creations are.

I think a lot of mine are, too.

Easy steps for determining Doc's reference

1. Is it from Star Wars?
   
2. If no, are you sure it's not from Star Wars?
   
3. If yes, is it from Indiana Jones?
   
4. If no, is it from Back to the Future?
   
5. If no, is it from classic literature or movies?
   
6. If no, you're sure it's not from Star Wars, right?
   
7. If yes, it's a complete coincidence.

[Sandy]

Maybe I'm just being misled by the gaming half of me, but is "The Fountain of the Three Gods" a refrence to the Three Goddesses of the Legend of Zelda games?

Umm, unless the three goddesses in Zelda represent Power, Wealth and Fame, then no... Do you have any idea how many "threes of something" there are in all mythologies, let alone other fictive works, anyway?

[Flipz]

I think a lot of mine are, too.

Easy steps for determining Doc's reference

1. Is it from Star Wars?
   
2. If no, are you sure it's not from Star Wars?
   
3. If yes, is it from Indiana Jones?
   
4. If no, is it from Back to the Future?
   
5. If no, is it from classic literature or movies?
   
6. If no, you're sure it's not from Star Wars, right?
   
7. If yes, it's a complete coincidence.

URL added for emphasis.

[Kadabra]

I said that not everything is a nod to pop culture, but obviously most of my creations are.

Oh, so it was an Assassin's Creed reference? Wow, I feel stupid for unintentionally getting I reference when I was intentionally trying to read into things too much.

[Endgame]

Gasp! You mean, the real you has a split personality as well?

Sorry, had to be said.

Yep. I also have a third personality every other Tuesday where I become a lemur throwing megablocks at innocent bystanders. There's also an ax murderer in there somewhere, but he comes out at random...

[RPGer]

Yep. I also have a third personality every other Tuesday where I become a lemur throwing megablocks at innocent bystanders. There's also an ax murderer in there somewhere, but he comes out at random...

Oh dear! See a prison warden, he'll lock you up!

[Palathadric]

I think a lot of mine are, too.

Easy steps for determining Doc's reference

1. Is it from Star Wars?
   
2. If no, are you sure it's not from Star Wars?
   
3. If yes, is it from Indiana Jones?
   
4. If no, is it from Back to the Future?
   
5. If no, is it from classic literature or movies?
   
6. If no, you're sure it's not from Star Wars, right?
   
7. If yes, it's a complete coincidence.

It's a step-by-step guide needed for becoming a QM!

[Tanma]

Umm, unless the three goddesses in Zelda represent Power, Wealth and Fame, then no... Do you have any idea how many "threes of something" there are in all mythologies, let alone other fictive works, anyway?

Power yes, but the other too are Wisdom and Courage.

Yeah humanity has this weird obsession with the number three. Past, present, and future; unity, duty, and destiny; Fellowship, Towers, and Return; oh so many examples in religion, superego, ego, and id; and so on.

[Flipz]

Umm, unless the three goddesses in Zelda represent Power, Wealth and Fame, then no... Do you have any idea how many "threes of something" there are in all mythologies, let alone other fictive works, anyway?

Power yes, but the other too are Wisdom and Courage.

Yeah humanity has this weird obsession with the number three. Past, present, and future; unity, duty, and destiny; Fellowship, Towers, and Return; oh so many examples in religion, superego, ego, and id; and so on.

TvTropes has a helpful explanation of the phenomenon.

[LEGOman273]

I have a few questions about the Wolfgang.

1. Would the Wolfgang ever be the sponsor of a Quest?

2. How do the Wolfgang feel about the ruling Houses?

[Tanma]

TvTropes has a helpful explanation of the phenomenon.

Great, now I am trapped on TvTropes, again. Well at least it led me to a new text-based MSTing called the Eye of Argon.

Grignr?

I don't think the Wolfgang could ever host a quest because the veterans won't allow it, but they could pose as other factions in quest ads.

[LEGOman273]

I don't think the Wolfgang could ever host a quest because the veterans won't allow it, but they could pose as other factions in quest ads.

Why wouldn't they allow it?

[Tanma]

Why wouldn't they allow it?

...Because the Wolfgang are active criminals wanted by the Town Guard?

[LEGOman273]

...Because the Wolfgang are active criminals wanted by the Town Guard?

"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view."

And the Hinckwells and the Shadaeux hate eachother, yet there have been Quests from both POVs.

[Flipz]

"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view."

And the Hinckwells and the Shadaeux hate eachother, yet there have been Quests from both POVs.

Think of it this way: all the Houses are corrupt, but they aren't criminals. (At the very least, there's not enough evidence for a conviction.) The Wolfgang have skipped right past "corrupt" to "outright criminal"; thus, any Wolfgang exposed would be immediately arrested. Even if they got a note posted in the Hall, the Town Watch would just show up and intercept the Wolfgang before the Heroes could get there, AND they'd likely throw the Heroes who signed up into prison as well.

[LEGOman273]

Think of it this way: all the Houses are corrupt, but they aren't criminals. (At the very least, there's not enough evidence for a conviction.) The Wolfgang have skipped right past "corrupt" to "outright criminal"; thus, any Wolfgang exposed would be immediately arrested. Even if they got a note posted in the Hall, the Town Watch would just show up and intercept the Wolfgang before the Heroes could get there, AND they'd likely throw the Heroes who signed up into prison as well.

What if the Wolfgang used an alias, and only revealed their identity to the chosen Heroes?

[Tanma]

"Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view."

And the Hinckwells and the Shadaeux hate eachother, yet there have been Quests from both POVs.

That is something entirely different. Don't forget that the Shadeaux and Hinckwells rule Eubric. It doesn't matter how many crimes they commit, they are too powerful to be taken down. In an idealistic world we could touch them, but not in Eubric. Not to mention that we have yet to see either house directly commit a crime, everything is in the shadows, and even in Quest 4 all the blood was on the heroes' hands. There is no evidence to blacklist them, even if we could ignore houses of their power. You can also justify a Shadeaux/Hinckwell Quest by saying that occasionally they do help people, and often their quests are just investigating something. But from what we know for a fact about the Wolfgang is that they are often thieves, and that they recently attacked a Town Watch Base. The Wolfgang are known to have killed guards, and are actively wanted criminals. If Heroica helps the Wolfgang, we will be seen as criminals by the populous and the Town Guard, and what approval we have will be lost.

[LEGOman273]

. . . the Shadeaux and Hinckwells rule Eubric. It doesn't matter how many crimes they commit, they are too powerful to be taken down. . . . we have yet to see either house directly commit a crime, everything is in the shadows. . . There is no evidence to blacklist them. . .

This would be the basis of the Quest.

[Flipz]

This would be the basis of the Quest.

What, getting hard evidence against the Hinckwells or the Shadeaux? Honestly, I think that goes against the spirit of the two. These houses are GOOD at hiding what they do, that's kind of their whole point.

If one House wanted to hire Heroes to investigate the other, I could see that, but I couldn't see the Quest succeeding in that regard. Quest 2 was a good example ot that concept.

[Bricksandparts]

Think of it this way: all the Houses are corrupt, but they aren't criminals. (At the very least, there's not enough evidence for a conviction.) The Wolfgang have skipped right past "corrupt" to "outright criminal"; thus, any Wolfgang exposed would be immediately arrested. Even if they got a note posted in the Hall, the Town Watch would just show up and intercept the Wolfgang before the Heroes could get there, AND they'd likely throw the Heroes who signed up into prison as well.

I've thought about this before, but the thing about it is, the houses could just send people to Heroica hall to see if their rivaling house is planning something against them.

[Flipz]

I've thought about this before, but the thing about it is, the houses could just send people to Heroica hall to see if their rivaling house is planning something against them.

That's different. In that case, they couldn't risk major action against the Heroes without the risk of their own illicit dealings being exposed. Remember: the Houses are good at indirect action, so that if something goes wrong and the plot is exposed they're not caught directly attacking another House but instead apparently doing something unrelated.