Darth Nihilus Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Please don't start this again, Scuba & MDM. This thread is off-topic enough already, and you two debating about which one is in the right isn't helping that. As long as MDM notifies us about changes to the enemies, I'm fine with them. Although teh original special was a little vague (3 damage and poisoned party), so it could be taken either way (3 Damage to special triggerer and poisoned to all of party or 3 damage and poisoned to whole party), I'm perfectly fine with it. SO, can we finish this debate and get on with the Quest already? Quote
UsernameMDM Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 What mistake? The special mechanic worked as I intended. Just because you didn't understand it doesn't make it a mistake. You seem the be the only one having a problem with it. Also, the other party members received 6 damage and none have complained about it. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 What mistake? The special mechanic worked as I intended. Just because you didn't understand it doesn't make it a mistake. You seem the be the only one having a problem with it. Also, the other party members received 6 damage and none have complained about it. As I said before, stop being a dick and write me out of the quest. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (and possibly a tad overpowered on a level 10 enemy with 100 health) Not at all. The party has the ability to take the spider out in a few rounds. What's the point of playing if there's no challenge? Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Okay, I'm trying not to take a side here, but seriously, you two are making me angry. It's a game, no need to get your undies in a twist over it. Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I am not in the quest, but it Seems overpowered. It has 100 health, Level 10 so any damage would be a lot and a Vaguely worded special that is poison effect and 3 damage to every party member. The Fianl battle of quest 4 was hard, but reasonable. The special was not OP. Edited February 16, 2012 by TheBoyWonder Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Okay, I'm trying not to take a side here, but seriously, you two are making me angry. It's a game, no need to get your undies in a twist over it. Yes, thats why I want to end this, and we can all move on. Quote
Rumble Strike Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I just think that an enemy that can do 10 damage with a roll of hit in the front row, as well as including a special which does 3 damage to everyone (regardless of row and SP) as well as poisoning everyone, is just a smidge overpowered at a base 100 health. But bring it on, Tarn does not back away from a challenge. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Okay, I'm trying not to take a side here, but seriously, you two are making me angry. It's a game, no need to get your undies in a twist over it. I posted after your post. I agree it's just a game but I want to have level headed players who can take the good with the bad. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I posted after your post. I agree it's just a game but I want to have level headed players who can take the good with the bad. Yeah man, you just keep insulting me, real tough. Just do what you said earlier? Come on man. Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I posted after your post. I agree it's just a game but I want to have level headed players who can take the good with the bad. With respect UsernameMDM, Scubacarrot was pointing out a mistake. The ultimatum did not help. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 But bring it on, Tarn does not back away from a challenge. The funnest quest I have been in involved enemies with 200+ hp and round limits when my character was at level 6. Quote
Rumble Strike Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Well we all took on Crozen Portiar in Quest#5 when Tarn was that sort of level, but she was an end-of-Quest boss. This one is probably not even a halfway boss. Quote
CMP Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I think you all just need to calm down a moment. Scuba was pointing out the vaguely worded specials, which, I agree, should probably be clarified before hand rather than after. The thing is, it's already happened. Scuba, even if you had known about the special, there was nothing to do about it, since you would have had to defeat it anyway. The idea that it's overpowered isn't justified, simply because there hasn't been a full round against just this creature yet. This round, once there has been, I'm sure it will be fairly easy to defeat. UsernameMDM, I don't think threatening Scuba with kicking him out of the quest was fair, at all. I think you would be better off saying you would clarify the specials from now on rather than threatening him over such a silly thing. I would really hate to see such an interesting hero leave a quest over something as trivial as this. You're both acting rather ridiculous, and should I be in the quest, I would simply stick with it until the end, whether I get knocked out or not. I do accept that it's Scuba's choice whether he wants to leave the quest or not, but I would really like fo rboth of you take a moment and look at what you're arguing over. Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I would be willing to allow Scubacarrot to have my place on Quest 24, as I disagree with the events involving his quest. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 I think you all just need to calm down a moment. Scuba was pointing out the vaguely worded specials, which, I agree, should probably be clarified before hand rather than after. The thing is, it's already happened. Scuba, even if you had known about the special, there was nothing to do about it, since you would have had to defeat it anyway. The idea that it's overpowered isn't justified, simply because there hasn't been a full round against just this creature yet. This round, once there has been, I'm sure it will be fairly easy to defeat. UsernameMDM, I don't think threatening Scuba with kicking him out of the quest was fair, at all. I think you would be better off saying you would clarify the specials from now on rather than threatening him over such a silly thing. I would really hate to see such an interesting hero leave a quest over something as trivial as this. You're both acting rather ridiculous, and should I be in the quest, I would simply stick with it until the end, whether I get knocked out or not. I do accept that it's Scuba's choice whether he wants to leave the quest or not, but I would really like fo rboth of you take a moment and look at what you're arguing over. Thanks for being the voice of reason, But if stuff like this happens, I feel uncomfortable going on with it, and I won't enjoy it. Quote
CMP Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks for being the voice of reason, But if stuff like this happens, I feel uncomfortable going on with it, and I won't enjoy it. Then I think UsernameMDM should write you out of the quest after this battle. There's no need to continue this argument anymore. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Then I think UsernameMDM should write you out of the quest after this battle. There's no need to continue this argument anymore. Yes, thats what I have been saying. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 UsernameMDM, I don't think threatening Scuba with kicking him out of the quest was fair, at all. I think you would be better off saying you would clarify the specials from now on rather than threatening him over such a silly thing.. He seems unhappy with the quest, and I was giving him a way out. I'm not upset with this at all. It's just a game to play for fun. How I am supposed to know if clarification is needed when no one asked? Furthermore scuba was the first to post in this thread with his gripe instead of just handling it in the quest thread or via PM. As I posted before he seemed more concerned for Guts and not the party. If his concern was for the better of the group and not just for his own, I may have been more lenient. Again he did not seem bothered by Dak's knockout in the first encounter even suggested the delay of Dak's revival which may have resulted in lost exp. Basically you get what you give. Take the good with the bad and let's just play. Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 UsernameMDM, I have messages you a possible Soloution which both I and Scubacarrot agree to. Quote
CMP Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Just be a bit more clear with the specials in the next battles, I mean. And since it's agreed Scuba is leaving the quest, I don't think this needs to be dragged out anymore. On another note, balancing the elemental powers of gems is a lot more time consuming than anyone thinks... I almost don't want any more, one Topaz and I'll be off for hours trying to find the best combination. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) You know what, nevermind. Edited February 16, 2012 by Scubacarrot Quote
CMP Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Okay. Edited February 16, 2012 by CallMePieOrDie Quote
TheBoyWonder Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 As I said before, I have messages a solution to UsernameMDM and Scuba Carrot, and I am just waiting for a response from MDM. Quote
Pandora Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Trying to steer the conversation in a different direction... Sisco, I'm really sorry to hear about your computer, as Sandy said I'd be a mess if I lost all my computer files and you shouldn't be worrying about our quest files if you've lost other stuff too. That on top of your sports injury is just really bad luck, so I hope things start taking a turn for the better for you. Zepher, I look forward to seeing how you manage to extricate us from the quest. Quote
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