K-Nut Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Ohhh..... I bought this Focal staff thinking it gave a bunch of ether, but it just promises a miss? What is the point in that? all it is is an exchange of 3 ether for 1 less free-hit, otherwise, it's useless! This isn't fair... Who was the QM that made this anyways? First off, read the description of it thoroughly before taking it, and second, don't act like a kid about it, "Oh this isn't fair! It's not what I wanted!" You can always resell it if you don't want it, or just not use it. And Jimbee said tat it was in that battle, not just against the mirror itself. Quote
Bricksandparts Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 First off, read the description of it thoroughly before taking it, and second, don't act like a kid about it, "Oh this isn't fair! It's not what I wanted!" You can always resell it if you don't want it, or just not use it. And Jimbee said tat it was in that battle, not just against the mirror itself. Well the way the description was written when I bought it was this: "Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether, Suitable for clerics and mages." which I thought meant that you'd receive 5 ether each time you got a miss (Or evidently a hit). Since then, Pie changed it to say "can guarantees player rolls a 3 at the cost of 5 ether, suitable for clerics and mages" It used to be misleading. Here's the post I bought it in: http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=58940&view=findpost&p=1133373 Quote
Jebediahs Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Aw, the effect should have been to choose your roll at the cost of 5 ether. That'd have been better. Quote
Bricksandparts Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Oh great! I was just looking at quest 12, and here's the list of descriptions: Focus Fire - On use While casting, guarantees player rolls a 3 at the cost of 5 ether; suitable for clerics and mages. http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=61505&view=findpost&p=1119927 Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether, Suitable for clerics and mages. http://www.eurobrick...dpost&p=1133373 can guarantees player rolls a 3 at the cost of 5 ether, suitable for clerics and mages http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=62491&view=findpost&p=1122356 So it turns out the 3 people that changed the description happen to be in MY party? That is a total coincidence... Quote
JimBee Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 They all mean the same thing. I can kind of understand where you might have misread it, but you probably should have looked at the official description (Jeb's) and asked questions if you were unsure of the effect before buying it from Masked. I'm not sure what you're complaining about, exactly. Even if the wording was extremely different (it's not), it is neither the party members' nor my responsibility to ensure that you fully understand the effect of your own weapon. Are you trying to imply that someone tricked you? Quote
Bricksandparts Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 They all mean the same thing. I can kind of understand where you might have misread it, but you probably should have looked at the official description (Jeb's) and asked questions if you were unsure of the effect before buying it from Masked. I'm not sure what you're complaining about, exactly. Even if the wording was extremely different (it's not), it is neither the party members' nor my responsibility to ensure that you fully understand the effect of your own weapon. Are you trying to imply that someone tricked you? No, I was just pointing out Why I was confused. Quote
CMP Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Focus Fire - On use While casting, guarantees player rolls a 3 at the cost of 5 ether; suitable for clerics and mages. http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=61505&view=findpost&p=1119927 Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether, Suitable for clerics and mages. http://www.eurobrick...dpost&p=1133373 can guarantees player rolls a 3 at the cost of 5 ether, suitable for clerics and mages http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=62491&view=findpost&p=1122356 They're all the same thing... Quote
Bricksandparts Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 This was the description when I bought it: Focus Fire-Roll a 3 for 5 ether, Suitable for clerics and mages. Which is different from the first anyways (Only when casting) and it can be seen as you gain 5 ether for each time you roll 3. "Roll a 3 for 5 ether" can be seen as roll a 3 for 5 ether, or use 5 ether to roll a 3. I thought that it was the 3 for 5, not 5 for 3 because that was the way it was said. Quote
Rumble Strike Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Pie, your Sapper dagger was originally a Quest item, much like the Lifestealer. Just cos you chose to spend a lot on yours doesn't mean it's unfair that a similar item was given out to a player in a quest as a reward. Quote
CMP Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Pie, your Sapper dagger was originally a Quest item, much like the Lifestealer. Just cos you chose to spend a lot on yours doesn't mean it's unfair that a similar item was given out to a player in a quest as a reward. You missed the ' '. Quote
Rumble Strike Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 I think I just tune out the smileys now, sorry I missed that. Carry on! Quote
Flipz Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Ohhh..... I bought this Focal staff thinking it gave a bunch of ether, but it just promises a miss? What is the point in that? all it is is an exchange of 3 ether for 1 less free-hit, otherwise, it's useless! This isn't fair... Who was the QM that made this anyways? First off, read the description of it thoroughly before taking it, and second, don't act like a kid about it, "Oh this isn't fair! It's not what I wanted!" You can always resell it if you don't want it, or just not use it. And Jimbee said tat it was in that battle, not just against the mirror itself. If you don't want it, Bricks, I'll take it off your hands (assuming we get gold from this Quest; if our teamwork continues at this level, though, we'd be more likely to gain gold by betting on a TPK ). While we're on the subject, exactly how is the Healing Staff supposed to work? I read it as healing people at the cost of 5 Ether, but when someone used it in a Quest they just hit themselves with it and it healed them equivalent to the strength of their hit? Which way is right? (If it's the latter, then I'm TOTALLY buying it outright if I can get enough Gold.) Quote
CMP Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 While we're on the subject, exactly how is the Healing Staff supposed to work? I read it as healing people at the cost of 5 Ether, but when someone used it in a Quest they just hit themselves with it and it healed them equivalent to the strength of their hit? Which way is right? (If it's the latter, then I'm TOTALLY buying it outright if I can get enough Gold.) Where'd you read it takes 5 Ether? That sounds more like the Focal Staff. Quote
Flipz Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Where'd you read it takes 5 Ether? That sounds more like the Focal Staff. I think the error came from trying to read about it in Bricksandparts' sig, the line breaks aren't working on his little "inventory" tab. Yeah, I'm definitely going to buy that off of him, who needs a cleric when you've got a staff like that?! ...waitaminute, K-nut, why didn't you hit me with that before the battle started?! Quote
K-Nut Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 ...waitaminute, K-nut, why didn't you hit me with that before the battle started?! I offered it, but I thought you refused. And who says I'm not going to try and buy it off of him? Quote
Flipz Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I offered it, but I thought you refused. And who says I'm not going to try and buy it off of him? Because he actually loaned it to me, so when I hand over the gold I can include extra to buy it off him? And I refused because I thought it would cost you Ether. Doh. Quote
K-Nut Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Because he actually loaned it to me, so when I hand over the gold I can include extra to buy it off him? And I refused because I thought it would cost you Ether. Doh. Isn't it D'oh? Quote
Flipz Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Isn't it D'oh? The apostrophe gets rejected by the Lego Universe chat filter, so I've learned to leave it out. You're lucky I have the presence of mind to actually type numbers instead of 'too' 'tree' 'for' 'ive' 'sicks'...! Quote
legobodgers Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 "Skrall! I will do no damage to this beast now, what do you suggest?" Tesni shouted. Her holy bomb had worked but the beast was still fighting... Peppermint, you will be fine to attack, it clearly states that this is a Demom rather than a Demon. Chaos Beast of Elements Level 12 Demom Health: 330/375 Special: Chaos – Drops one of the following based on the roll (Explosives do 3 damage to each party member, disregarding row and SP): 1 – Fire Bomb, 2 – Explosive, 3 – Ice Bomb, 4 – Explosive, 5 – Holy Bomb, 6 – Explosive Drops: Amethyst, Diamond Quote
Peppermint_M Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Hmm, good point! I was also concerned that switching weapons would take a turn. Quote
Waterbrick Down Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I don't think it should as rogues do it all the time, switching from ranged to close combat. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Sandy, if two heroes battle each other and both are in the Back Row, do the effects stack? I'm leaning towards yes, since they could be thought of as two separate actions. The attacker making a cautious attack, so he can't put the full force of his body into it so that it doesn't deal as much Damage; the defender is dodging from afar, giving him more time to respond and causing the already weak attack to only graze him, further reducing the Damage done. Quote
Jebediahs Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Sarick should have only been hit for 1 damage. When attacks are halved they're rounded down. Combatants: Sarick Lanse, Thomas “Tomato” Thomson (Xarrzan) What is this "Thomas 'Tomato' Thomson' b'ness about? Quote
Sandy Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 Sandy, if two heroes battle each other and both are in the Back Row, do the effects stack? I'm leaning towards yes, since they could be thought of as two separate actions. The attacker making a cautious attack, so he can't put the full force of his body into it so that it doesn't deal as much Damage; the defender is dodging from afar, giving him more time to respond and causing the already weak attack to only graze him, further reducing the Damage done. If you're asking this for the Arena, it is up to you to decide. I'm hesitant to introduce "quartered damage" to the battlesystem, but if QMs want that then I don't mind. It would mean that when a hero standing in the back row attacks an enemy in the back row with a close-ranged weapon, the hero would only do a quarter of the normal damage. Does anyone feel the need to discuss this issue? Quote
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