LEGO Star Wars 2012 No more spoilers!

[Bobskink]

Hello,

Maybe it's been discussed before in the already 600 pages long 2011 topic, but here I go.

I'm actually getting bored with all those spoilers and endless speculations about upcoming sets.

Not that I'm curious, I am very curious. But I remember when I was a kid, or an adult collector without internet. I was always very exited when January was there. Which new sets and characters would we get, hunting all the local toy stores etc...

The thing is, now we know what will be on shelves next year, by the time the sets get out, I'm already bored with some. That is also a good thing because it saves me money. But still, I collect these thing because I'm nostalgic for one reason. Not knowing which sets there will be in the near future is also nostalgic I guess.

One more thing, Yoda once said to Luke that his mind always dwells on the future, never on the present. Strange that the Star Wars fans them self are the ones who look the most to the future of all collectors.

So here is my question, to the members and the board. Is there a way to get a front page with no spoilers on it. I'm always curious about cool news, but I want to avoid the spoilers. An alternative front page or something. I can imagine Lego can only like this.

Anyway, I'm gonna try this, getting trough this year without knowing which sets there will be next year. I'm just so curious about what the effect will be.

Edited June 16, 2011 by Bobskink

[Stegoceras]

I think the easiest solution for you would be to bookmark the forum page instead of the frontpage, you can then always head over to the frontpage bit of the forum to see what's on there and read/skip whatever you want/don't want to know.

[Parrothead Rasmus]

I suggest not going on Eurobricks! Speculating and hoping is part of being a LEGO fan. However, I know what you mean. I do miss being surprised by seeing unexpected and new sets at the store.

Edited June 16, 2011 by Parrothead Rasmus

[Bobskink]

@ Stegoceras, I already use the forum as bookmark, but every day I check the frontpage once, if there is a big spoiler in front, it's difficult to unse

@Parrothead Rasmus, speculating and hoping is a totaly different thing than speculating and knowing I think.nNot going to Eurobricks is no option.

[Jedi master Brick]

So you are surgesting we stop trying to find out about lego sets pre-realses? If so I disagree because its nice to know. I got the urge 2 years ago and knowing the furure sets helps give us time on a decisoin.

[Parrothead Rasmus]

@Parrothead Rasmus, speculating and hoping is a totaly different thing than speculating and knowing I think.nNot going to Eurobricks is no option.

I suppose, and not going to Eurobricks is not a worldly option!!

So you are surgesting we stop trying to find out about lego sets pre-releases? If so I disagree because its nice to know. I got the urge 2 years ago and knowing the furure sets helps give us time on a decisoin.

Good point. It does help. It also gives us time to make our LEGO funds grow as well...

[The_Chosen_1]

This is a really interesting subject to bring up!

On one hand, I do agree with you. I was a kid just a few short years ago and remember the excitement that I had walking into Target once and seeing the new AT-ST with Chewie and Watto's Junkyard sets. I just remember the excitement that I had that I could now get a Chewie without having to buy the $100+ Millenium Falcon. Feelings like that just don't happen the same way anymore.

On the other hand, it is nice to be able to plan ahead and budget. As both a college student and a newlywed, the budget is definitely tight and things like personal expenditures need a bit of planning. I would love being surprised with new sets on the shelves, but it's the BIG sets (*UCS*) that definitely need to be budgeted for. If there was a way to find out about pricing, availability, etc. of the expensive exclusive sets but still be surprised by retail sets, I'd be down with that.

[pedro]

@ Stegoceras, I already use the forum as bookmark, but every day I check the frontpage once, if there is a big spoiler in front, it's difficult to unse

Looks like you can't have your cake and eat it!

Surely it's still a surprise seeing what's revealed ahead of release? Reading upcoming set lists, feeling the building hype in the threads, seeing the first pictures and thinking "AWESOMES!" or 'Meh, disppointment...' or "Sweet they've included her!" it's all still news and all still unexpected, it's just you're receiving the information in a different way - reading it way before you see it on a shelves. For example, I was taken aback when I saw the new Hoth set - okay it's not available for a while but hell, it completely wasn't what I'd thought it would be on many levels... certainly suprised me!

We love sneaky pics and talking about what's coming around the corner... and Eurobricks is the best platform for this. Not visiting the frontpage is the only sure-fire way of avoiding spoiler news. Otherwise, you'll just have to ride the waves, baby!

[Brickdoctor]

As has been said, the spoilers are useful as they allow us to plan ahead what we'll buy. For me personally that's a big thing as an MOCer.

And as pedro said, we still get surprised, just earlier. Then if we get bored with a set before it's released, we don't buy it and save a little money. Better that than getting bored with it after you buy it. (which is not to say we don't buy sets that become boring after a while or are boring already but are great values; I mean a set that you're simply completely unimpressed with after building it and to you has no fun play value whatsoever)

[Big Cam]

I think the easiest solution for you would be to bookmark the forum page instead of the frontpage, you can then always head over to the frontpage bit of the forum to see what's on there and read/skip whatever you want/don't want to know.

I completely agree, my bookmark is to "active topics", I often check the frontage too, but a good alternative for you would be to check the frontpage forum, and browse the topic titles, then only enter the threads you want to read.

[sharky]

Personally I don't like surprises with regard to toy/Lego collecting. The thrill of a new set is there when I read about it for the first time online. I like the time to plan ahead and prioritize what I want to get 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and what kind of budget I will need to get them. In fact, I wish we could know about sets even further in advance so that I can decide to wait for an updated set or go find an older set I am interested in on ebay or bricklink.

[TheBrickHitHouse]

With some sets we've known all about them up to 8-10 months early - some new sets feel like old sets at release!

We're already wondering about the Executor and 2012 when the summer 2011 sets are owned by a mere handful!

However, u can't just talk about old sets - half the fun is the stream of new info

[StoutFiles]

Knowing that the Falcon was coming saved me from purchasing an older, used, overpriced Falcon. It also saved me from starting to collect pieces to build my own Executor. I prefer knowing what's coming.

[Mr. Elijah Timms]

Kinda unrealistic to ask the entire system to be re-worked to your wishes. If you don't like being spoiled by visiting the site, I think the solution is easy and obvious.

[Bobskink]

This is a really interesting subject to bring up!

On one hand, I do agree with you....On the other hand, it is nice to be able to plan ahead and budget....

I agrea, it's good to knwo how mush money you will need. But, the way I see it, sets are on sale for 2 years most of the time. I always try to grab the sets I want within these two years. It's the same, but it requires more patience

... a good alternative for you would be to check the frontpage forum, and browse the topic titles, then only enter the threads you want to read.

That is indeed a good idea. But I that only solves this site. I really like The Brothers Brick, there are some cool things to see on the blog, but also spoilers...

With some sets we've known all about them up to 8-10 months early - some new sets feel like old sets at release!

That's exaclty my point It takes away the fun.

However, u can't just talk about old sets - half the fun is the stream of new info

That is also tru, I just think it's human.

Kinda unrealistic to ask the entire system to be re-worked to your wishes...

That is not what I ask. I just want to start a discussion and make a proposition for an alternative frontpage. I want to know if I'm the only one who feels this way, if there are others...

[Eskallon]

Well I agree and disagree on the matter at hand. It can be great to walk into a store and see all the shiny new sets which you want to take home and discover. If we see them online though it is still a nice surprise but it doesn't give the same feeling as actually seeing the sets. Also when you discover the sets online others have already been talking about it so there is nothing which you can get excitement from in terms of self discovery.

However on the other hand it is great fun to see the sets online too. It has become the norm for AFOL's on these fansites to see the sets early and this makes seeing them a surprise in itself. As well as this often not all the sets are shown at once which means the sets keep surprising us. It also enables us to be able to plan ahead and allocate savings towards sets.

So what's the solution? Well we can't ex pect EB to change for the minority that do not enjoy seeing the sets early but you can make use of the sites current features. As a few have suggested you can bookmark the frontpage forum where you can just view the frontpage articles that interest you. Another alternative is to never view the frontpage at all and find topics which interest you on your own.

Yours

Esky

[madoka]

Knowing what's going to be released in the future is critical to buyers.

For example, R2-Q5 sells for about $20 on BL. But knowing that he is coming up in the Advent set means you don't have to pay an inflated price to get him if you can wait a few months.

[art_apples]

I can see where you are coming from on this to a certain extent. I went through a similar thought process to you many years ago, I thought wouldn't it be great to see a new wave for the first time in the shops and be totally surprised by it.

It would be lovely to walk in one day and see the whole new range and to go through it all and having the thrill of discovering and making an opinion right there in the shop... wouldn't it be lovely to be looking at the box design and scanning the figures to see which new ones they have done, how exicting would it be to see some much desired figures in the sets, it would be great to see how many rehashes or new vehicles were there, how much OT, how much CW.

Imagine if you really done this and went to the shops say for the summer 2012 wave... imagine walking in to the shop and the first thing you saw was a UCS B-wing, Wow, you'd be straight over to the box, picking it up and really excited about it... Imagine you looked across and then saw a new Slave 1, hmmm, ok not that excited maybe, but look they've finally done Zuckuss & 4-Lom and aren't they beautifully done, now this set is looking more interesting already... a closer look at the set, Wow a great fett figure too with cloud city type leg printing, ok it's looking better... and no way! is that an Ugnaught carrying frozen Han... right how much money do I have as that sets is in my buy now pile... Oh what is that?... oh my god they've actually made a Tatooine homestead with really cool burnt Beru & Owen figures, what a cool & unexpected move by lego, and it comes with a stunning luke's skyhopper.... ok next set, clone wars troopers with some sort of ground vehicle, hmmm I don't instantly recognise that vehicle, must of blinked and missed that one from the cartoons, the box describes it as a Republic Ground Cruiser, nope still doesn't ring a bell, but I like the 4 troops with great printing, Is that some sort of squadron they all seem to be in a red print... I like it.

... and so on, just think wouldn't that be such a great experience... I would be so excited to go through that personally.

As a result, in the past I have attempted to avoid the rumour thread... this lasted about 2 months as it was sheer agony to not have a little sneaky look.

However saying all that I do love to see new vehicles that suddenly appear on the forums, I remember when I went into the rumour thread and saw for the first time the UCS Imperial Shuttle... it totally blew my mind, I was so excited about that set and it came as a total surprise out of the blue... similarly with the UCS Executor. And I also love the slow un-ravelling of a set with blurred images and lots of speculation before all is revealled.

But I have bought sets in the past and been really unexcited by it as a result of seeing it talked to death and analysed many months before it comes out, and when they do come out I have a tendancy to buy sets about another 6 months later just before the next wave arrives to see what the sales have to say, so by the time I pick the sets up I've also seen the forum reviews, the youtube reviews, everything, so I know the sets inside out, I've seen the figures so many times... sadly for me there is no surprise and it feels like I'm just going through the motions in getting certain sets.

My conclussion is that there is no solution... haha; We are, or I am at least a slave to this hobby and no matter how hard I try I can't help putting my hand into the cookie jar...

[SWMAN]

Like everyone else has said I agree with you to a point. I understand that you want to be totally surprised when you walk into your local toy store and see new sets on the shelf. There's a certain satisfaction and excitement that comes with this. But, like everyone has also said, most people enjoy the spoilers and grainy photos and such. So I would suggest that you just set your bookmark to the forums instead of the frontpage.

[Ki-Adi-Mundi]

Sry if it was said already.

To me, the forum is about news, discussions around them and some special interests associated with LEGOs. Denying news or banning them into some obscure secluded area would fail the point of theses boards, i think. And it's good to see in which kind manner people behave here. Not only is this a place to meet fellow fans - who can claim to have similar minded and aged ppl around him-/herself in RL - but the community feeds itself with bits and bricks of news that (in)voluntarily trickle out from TLG from time to time.

If this were dried up or relegated to a place OP cannot see it - the bulk of people would become disappointed, bored and forum quality in manners etc. would decline, IMO. Since the pursue of happiness of the majority outruns some pretty special eccentricity (no offense intended, seriously!) i would suggest to change the bookmarks and adjust the surfing behaviour on the boards by affected people. Checking threads on news and rumors is optional in the end, you know?!

Resisting the urge to click on them is the same challenge as is to decide on purchases from TLG. It's an individual matter no one else can be blamed for.

[Delta 38]

Well, I personally look forward to information about future sets. I'd rather speculate on confirmed information than hope that rumours are true.

As for Star Wars though, I normally buy all sets that I can afford anyway, so the only disappointment comes from the sets I won't be able to buy.

[Thego]

For me, this forum allows me double excitement: I get excited when a piece of news or an image is released on here; then I get excited again when I buy the set some time later and get it home.

[Navy Trooper Fenson]

The fun of walking in the toy store and being surprised by the new sets in stock has been replaced by the exact same excitement of going in the rumor topic and being surprised by the new six set name lists. When I think about it, getting the information cut up into little morsels actually lengthens this joy.

First you get names that are giving you a little look to what comes next. Not everything is straight forward like Slave One, Battle of Naboo was speculated to be everything from Naboo, either the Gungan battle (that it turned out to be) but it could have been also about the infiltration of the palace with Padmé, Life-Action Nute and palace guards or even the one episode from The Clone Wars with that Hammer-villain.

Then you get some descriptions about the content. You hear names of Jedi like Quinlan Vos or the ARF Trooper and of some badass vehicles like the Freeco Speeder, things you couldn´t even have imagined to be able to ever become a LEGO product.

The last two stages come with the pictures. When you first get some unfocused pics you can speculate what is in the set. You see the newe Clone Trooper Battlepack and you fall from your chair because you see that thing in the background looks actually familiar and isn´t just some scrap model from the designers child but a Speederbike from the Saleucami scene of Revenge of the Sith. And lastly when you see the set in all its glory with high-res pics and reviews you see all the nice details. Savage Opress isn´t just a completely black figure with yellow horns and hockey armore, he has a six-pack printed on the torso, and they even got Wolffes glasseye right.

I am alreadyx eager to see the next wave of sets for 2012 (mostly to finally see if my occult exercises are paying off and I am right with the next battlepacks being Endor-themed, but I am no less excited to finally get my Millennium Falcon or see what the second UCS set is LEGO still has to present.

If your problem is only looking at the frontpage you can easily skip this by simply using the forum. There aren´t any announcements on the frontpage that aren´t also prominent topics in the forum if I remember correctly.

[Aeroeza]

... So here is my question, to the members and the board. Is there a way to get a front page with no spoilers on it. I'm always curious about cool news, but I want to avoid the spoilers. An alternative front page or something. I can imagine Lego can only like this.

Anyway, I'm gonna try this, getting trough this year without knowing which sets there will be next year. I'm just so curious about what the effect will be.

I sympathize with you Bobskink!

To solve your news/spoilers dilemma perhaps you could mount your computer on a few grams of C4 and rig it to explode should you accidentally view the front page of a Lego site. It's a drastic solution but the proverbial Pavlov's dog treatment might be the only way to control 'The Evil Urges'- I know the temptation would be too great for me! But in principal you're right, we should all do as much as possible to bring back Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and even the Tooth Fairy into our dull adult lives and re-live the magic of yesteryear where walking around every toy store provided a new Lego surprise! But I'm not made of your stern stuff and am jaded by the joy of looking at 'The Spoilers of Tomorrow' and their green-eyed temptress dubbed 'The Jpegs of Longing'!

... Maybe it's been discussed before in the already 600 pages long 2011 topic, but here I go. I'm actually getting bored with all those spoilers and endless speculations about upcoming sets...

607 pages and counting! I get your point. I have to admit that I also find the speculation often meaningless. The size of the 2011 Pictures & Rumors thread does reflect this- it is enormous compared to previous years and to read through it in search of posted gems and notable comments is awkward given it's often overblown with speculative blurbs and surreptitious wish lists. This is not to say that all speculation is bad just that informed speculation is what I prefer to comment on.

Let's face it, Eurobricks has become an enormous site over the last few years and in this time experienced a population explosion among its Star Wars postings. An 'unmanageable dog' springs to mind but its moderators do well in steering the overall path. If tested I doubt many members who frequent the Star Wars forum could stand up to the site's age restriction. As a result the "endless speculations about upcoming sets" may simply mirror this trend through a consequent lack of 'adult' discourse.

To be fair though I find the spoilers fun- they focus comments and provide some healthy debate within the community which in turn generate and spill over into other interesting site topics (like this one).

[Red Bricks]

I agree, Because the more I know about a set, the less I want it