Mafia School: Fabuland Housewives - Day Three

[Scorpiox]

Oh I'm stumped.

I don't know who to trust, Betsy or Brody?

Betsy, you are being very aggresive with your evidence and I must have overestimed your suspicions. I expected them to be a result of a cop's night report or something. You could be a scum trying to strike at the heart of the town, but I admit I have lost my faith in Brody. You have posted a lot of sensible acusations that I agree with but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon if Brody's town.

Betsy, If we end up convicting Brody and he is town then you are to blame.

Hell. Betsy I sure hope you are not scum.

I Vote: Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down)

God help us if I am wrong, if Betsy is scum then everything has gone to hell.

[Waterbrick Down]

Oh I'm stumped.

I don't know who to trust, Betsy or Brody?

Betsy, you are being very aggresive with your evidence and I must have overestimed your suspicions. I expected them to be a result of a cop's night report or something. You could be a scum trying to strike at the heart of the town, but I admit I have lost my faith in Brody. You have posted a lot of sensible acusations that I agree with but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon if Brody's town.

Betsy, If we end up convicting Brody and he is town then you are to blame.

Hell. Betsy I sure hope you are not scum.

I Vote: Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down)

God help us if I am wrong, if Betsy is scum then everything has gone to hell.

What kind of reasoning is this? Dear citizens look over my past statements, I have always been the one that has applied logic and reason for the help of our fair town. If anyone should be under the spot light it should be those who have not contributed at all, and especially those who have faked their contributions such as our dear friend Mrs. Bunny, even when I have countered all her points she will not see the light of reason. This is not justice or even a suspicious townie, this is the smell of a mafia rat who will not let down her attack until she has felled each and everyone of us no matter the evidence brought to the contrary.

[Sirius Black]

Alright, so after repeated atempts at contacting Randy Rabbit with no response, either he is keeping a low profile or is on one of his "bread delivery" excursions, if there is no other evidence to be brought forward than I suggest that we seriously consider Randy as a possible mafia member for the following reasons:

1. His innacivity during yesterdays proceedings.

2. His aggressive attitude towards after being accused.

3. His rather insufficient reasons for choosing to vote for Marcus.

4. His illogical attempt at accusing Doctor Candace Cow made yesterday.

5. His continued lack of conversation today.

So far, this seems to be one of the two main reasons that our Chief has fallen under suspicion. So, lets take a look at whether or not these were accurate reasons at the time.

1. True. In fact, it let to a vote or two on day one for him, and it was a major discussion point. Many of us felt that this was suspicious, so we can't really vote Brody off for this one

2. Also true, his original refutations were very poorly phrased at the least. A constant phrase of his was that investigating him or suspecting him was "ridiculous. While we know now this was true, it was poorly worded at best.

3. Not a good reason, but not good enough for you to have turned it into a point.

4. True as well, it was not a logical accusation

5. Also true, and brought up by others.

So as we can see, most of these were valid reasons supported by others. I may be looking at the wrong statement, but from this, it doesn't seem like we can blame the Chief for the vote against Randy.

I still feel that I have to shoulder a lot of the blame for voting against Randy - even though I believe that this particular vote was orchestrated by the Chief. I should have listened to the voice of reason instead of acting on impulse which proved detrimental on that occasion - which is why right now I'm doing my best not to let my impulses guide me today as well.

I may be wrong, but based on what he said, it doesn't look like we can't really blame Brody for orchestrating Randy's death. Or is there something else that you know about this that we don't? (Say, a private discussion or something?)

We need to know the facts before voting, as today is crucial in the fight against the mafia.

Lily

[Fuzzylegobricks]

It seems like our Police and fellow friend are fighting, why would that be, Are you worried Brody is scum?

I think it is hard to tell who is scum or not but I surely do not think brody is, what do you think betsy and Brody?

[Waterbrick Down]

Well I'm not going to admit that I am part of the mafia, and I don't think Mrs. Bunny will either. But I am sure my reasoning will prove my innocence. And my conviction will only serve as another skeleton in Mrs. Bunny's closet upon tomorrow. I might have been wrong about Randy but I can see why I smelled a rat coming from his house. The time is coming to vote soon and we loyal townies must band together, does anyone else have any other evidence?

[Hinckley]

vote tally

Chief Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down): 1 vote (Scorpiox)

You have 20.5 hours left to reach a conviction.

[Skull-Mark_Ladybug]

Well we are in quite a dark hour if I do say so myself. From the beginning of the game I've held both Chief Brody and Betsy Bunny in high respect.

They both have assumed leadership roles over the past few days, but now my dear friends and neighbors. I'm sure that I am mirrored by some of you in a loss of faith in both of this figures. Over the past few hours I've been conversing with both of them privately to try to find for myself which one of them was trustworthy. I would advise the rest of you whom are not sure as to who to vote for to do the same.

Don't take my word for it in the event that I've been tricked by Betsy Bunny. Don't blindly follow me converse with both sides before placing your vote they can't fool all of us.

It pains me to do this but after sucking up to me with semi illogical arguments I would have to

Vote Chief Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down)

Please Brody continue your conversation with me, but right now I've found Betsy Bunny to be more logical and well rounded. In the event that I have made the wrong choice I apologize. I had hoped to elaborate a bit more on my reasoning, but it will have to wait as I have to head to school right now.

Please everyone we must place our votes soon.

[Fuzzylegobricks]

why vote our police officer honey? Is something wrong?!

I think this is a tough decision but I think this is a very high suspect.

Vote Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox)

[Scorpiox]

It is sad to see two of the furries I always thought were the voice of the town at each others throats.

Either Betsy or Brody is scum but Betsy has convinced me that Brody is scum. As dear Evan said the scum can't trick us all. I beg each of you to find out as much as you can about Betsy and Brody.

Brody, you still haven't convinced me you are town, for now I will stand by my vote.

If we convict Brody and he is scum then Betsy will be blamed and probably lynched, and vice versa. We have to be absolutely sure, If we slip up then we risk losing a VIT (very important townie).

[Waterbrick Down]

Well folks it's been fun, but the time has come to unveil this entire charade. You have all been more than kind in showing where your allegiances lie, this my friends is what we call in the police business: a sting operation. The plan was simple have two known loyal town members argue against each other (Betsy and myself) and see where the remaining votes of our list of suspicious individuals fall, then come out with the rest of our trust worthy posse and nab the remaining mafia goons among us, and yes you know who I am talking about. So now onto business, there are 4 of you left whom I do not trust and one of you has made it adequately clear of his mafia leanings. Thus I am casting my vote:

Vote: Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox)

I look forward to hearing your suspicions Betsy, any evidence is pure gold in the fight against the scum, I hope that your evidence will lead us to a swift scum conviction.

I am glad that my poor son managed to take one of those mafia goons down with him. I am saddened by his death but he gave his life to kill a scum. I can't decide whether losing our vigilante was worth it to kill a scum. It depends on how many scum are left.

It is a shame that we had voted off dear Randy for inactivity, I have a feeling that fear of the penalty drove those who voted on, though I admit I would have probably voted if I wasn't asleep because it was night time here had got the chance (because it wasn't just inactivity that made him suspicious). I hope with the aid of Betsy's suspicions that we will vote on something solid tonight.

I doubt there are more than four goons left.

Oh I'm stumped.

I don't know who to trust, Betsy or Brody?

Betsy, you are being very aggresive with your evidence and I must have overestimed your suspicions. I expected them to be a result of a cop's night report or something. You could be a scum trying to strike at the heart of the town, but I admit I have lost my faith in Brody. You have posted a lot of sensible acusations that I agree with but I don't want to jump on the bandwagon if Brody's town.

Betsy, If we end up convicting Brody and he is town then you are to blame.

Hell. Betsy I sure hope you are not scum.

I Vote: Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down)

God help us if I am wrong, if Betsy is scum then everything has gone to hell.

Mrs. Goat, during your statements made thus far today you mentioned whether it was worth losing our vigilante in order to kill a mafia. To my knowledge thus far (and I was in contact with Payton before his death) there was no correlation between him killing Franklin Fox and the Mafia killing him (Payton). A trade off was not required, Payton could have killed Franklin and gotten away with it, unless the mafia somehow already knew that she was the vigilante. It is true that Payton also spoke with Franklin Fox who repeatedly asked him about the vigilante, but in my conversations with Payton, he told me that he never gave Mr. Fox any hint that he was the vigilante. However, somehow the mafia must have seen past his ruse and killed him anyway. My point is, only mafia members would be privy to this information and since you seem to think there was a connection between Payton killing Franklin and the mafia killing Payton you have raised suspicion upon how you acquired that information.

Putting all that aside, I find it very interesting how you were glad to join in Betsy's reasoning without offering any of your own when voting for me. Additionally you made it quite clear that if I turned out to be a loyal member of the town that Betsy would be the one to blame, even though you had the gall to cast the first stone.

In reflecting on your actions and statements over the past days, I have found more suspicious behavior coming from you. Specifically during the first day these shenanigans started you were extremely hesitant on voting off Marcus Mouse and never did cast a vote against him. Were you asleep at that time too? Additionally, yesterday you conveniently borrowed reasoning from MacK to explain Gavin's killing, in what seems to be an attempt to discourage suspicion against yourself.

Well on the topic of motives, I think it might be a good idea to share some of our observations that we've made.

If I recall correctly Gavin was the first one to place a vote, and he his vote was for Randy. Mind you, I'm not accusing Randy of anything I'm just letting my observations be known. Gavin also seemed fairly active in our community which could be one viable reason that led to his death.

I have to admit I am stumped as to why Holly was killed. I think that Betsy's theory that the attack was more personal holds some water. Chief Brody, seeing that you've served in the Police Force for a long time, surely you could shed some light on this mystery.

I believe that poor Gavin was murdered because of his activity and possibly something to do with voting against Randy though revenge killings are unlikely.

I think that we may have a vigilante amongst us who mistakenly took dear Holly Hippo from us. I doubt that mafia killed both last night but it is still possible.

P.S. I doubt that the special agent will be any help as he is probably just another chance to annoy Shadows.

Again you, Mrs. Goat did not vote and I think you have not been trying to stick out for a long time. Why should you start heaping on accusations now, perhaps this is your chance to get rid of a useful member of the town? What ever your reasons you are sticking out now and the time has come to pay for the deaths of all our friends and family. Though I wish our mayor wouldn't treat you with cruelty and death we have no choice in that matter. All loyal townies you may now cast your vote.

[Scorpiox]

Is something wrong you say?!? Of course there is something freakin' wrong!!! Oh everything is hunky dory, oh yeah apart from the scum trying to kill us every night!

Why did I vote for Brody you ask? Have you not been listening?

*Calms down*

Bianca, what have I ever done that was scummy? You are far too quick to vote, all you say is "this is a very high suspect". All you have is your gut feeling, nothing else.

Why vote me? You haven't even given any evidence, don't expect anyone to back you up without evidence. It is actually rather scummy to vote for someone with absolute zero evidence.

You're either an incredibly clumsy scum or a misguided townie.

[Waterbrick Down]

Bianca Lamb happened to be very busy today and did not have time to present her evidence before I had finished my accusation against you Mrs. Goat. She has my fullest confidence and I can vouch for her should anyone ask me. You on the other hand have quite a bit explaining to do. You want your evidence well now you have it.

[Hinckley]

vote tally

Chief Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down): 2 votes (Scorpiox, Mack)

Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox): 1 vote (Waterbrick Down)

You have approximately 12.25 hours to reach a convition.

Mod note: If you voted and you don't see your vote, it's highly likely that you didn't submit it in the correct format.

[Scorpiox]

Prepare for OOC:

I didn't vote on those previous occasions because I live in England and don't get up in the middle of the night just to go on the computer. I don't go on in the morning either because I don't want to be late. You can't possibly accuse me for not having time to go on the PC. On both those times I said my last post and went to bed, when I got back in the afternoon the day was over.

Back in character:

I don't get your Franklin/Payton nonesoense. I said I don't know whether losing a vigilante was worth it for a scum because they both died on the same night. I wasn't in contact with either and only knew their aligence after they died. The scum obviously chose Payton to be killed and he chose Franklin, I know this because... it showed it in the opening shock horror probe!

Your agument about me not voting has been explained above as well.

I admit I jumped on the Anti-Brody bandwagon without any of my own evidence but I was afraid of the penalty, a such fear I sense in you know with your ill-thought accusations.

Hesitant at voting off Marcus? I have explained above but I wouldn't have voted anyway, the Anti-Marcus bandwagon was metagaming and you can't possibly use that against me.

About saying that Betsy would take the blame? Because I wouldn't have found fault with you if Betsy hadn't came up with her surprisingly good for fake arguments.

Borrowing Evan's argments? Sorry, I must have missed the copyright symbol, am I not allowed to have the same views as someone else?

Brody, you have talked a lot but said little, your grand plan was a failure and you seem to want to waste todays conviction on me.

[badboytje88]

Correct vote tally

Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox): 2 votes (Waterbrick Down, MacK)

Chief Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick Down): 1 vote (Scorpiox)

Edit by Hinckley: badboy, I believe this tally is incorrect...

Edited May 19, 2011 by Hinckley

[Scorpiox]

I know you still misguidedly want my blood but I'm going to pull back my vote now you have been cleared as scum.

Unvote: Brody Bulldog (Waterbrick down)

[Ro87n]

Sorry for being out of my mind but I can't even trust myself anymore so...

Vote: Horse Hunter (Ro87n)

[Donut]

Between the two of you, I find Chief Brody to be more convincing at the moment. Sorry Gertrude, but you seem to have given up on yourself (much like Marcus).

If you're innocent keep on fighting and I'll reverse my vote.

Vote: Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox)

And Hunter Horse, your actions confuses me.

[MetroiD]

Yeah, well the cards are now on the table. Chief Brody is pretty much the one player I can say I trust 100% now. And yes, we've had an incredibly heated exchange between us, but at the end of the day I think we both now know where we stand. As to you Scorpiox, you know far too well why this vote is going against you. You have done nothing to contribute to this town's fight against the mafia. Your desire to get the ball rolling against the Chief and seal a vote against him ASAP, even though you weren't convinced you were doing the right thing yourself, only proves that. To top it all off, you haven't been able to come with one good reason of your own to vote against the Chief. It's far too easy to try and hide your allegiance now by withdrawing your vote, when obviously you won't be able to get enough votes against him. But that does not prove anything. In general, your reaction was precisely the thing both the Chief and I would have expected from one of the few remaining scum members.

I therefore

Vote: Gertrude Goat (Scorpiox)

...even though I feel incredibly let down by people around me. What the Chief and I planned so thoroughly has now backfired against us; I think that the whole Town can now clearly see what's really up here.

[Scorpiox]

I've said all the evidence I can, I've answered all your questions. I'm never gonna convince you guys anyway.

I don't know what you mean by 'giving up on yourself'.

I would keep fighting if I had anything else to say, I plead my innocence but have no more evidence to give. I thought my essay would have at least convinced you a tiny bit.

Before you lynch me, may I ask what made you first suspect me?

[Waterbrick Down]

Prepare for OOC:

I didn't vote on those previous occasions because I live in England and don't get up in the middle of the night just to go on the computer. I don't go on in the morning either because I don't want to be late. You can't possibly accuse me for not having time to go on the PC. On both those times I said my last post and went to bed, when I got back in the afternoon the day was over.

Back in character:

I don't get your Franklin/Payton nonesoense. I said I don't know whether losing a vigilante was worth it for a scum because they both died on the same night. I wasn't in contact with either and only knew their aligence after they died. The scum obviously chose Payton to be killed and he chose Franklin, I know this because... it showed it in the opening shock horror probe!

Your agument about me not voting has been explained above as well.

I admit I jumped on the Anti-Brody bandwagon without any of my own evidence but I was afraid of the penalty, a such fear I sense in you know with your ill-thought accusations.

Hesitant at voting off Marcus? I have explained above but I wouldn't have voted anyway, the Anti-Marcus bandwagon was metagaming and you can't possibly use that against me.

About saying that Betsy would take the blame? Because I wouldn't have found fault with you if Betsy hadn't came up with her surprisingly good for fake arguments.

Borrowing Evan's argments? Sorry, I must have missed the copyright symbol, am I not allowed to have the same views as someone else?

Brody, you have talked a lot but said little, your grand plan was a failure and you seem to want to waste todays conviction on me.

In addressing to each of your points:

1. While the first vote occurred over a stretch of 12 hours the second vote occurred over 24 hours. Point taken however that you cannot be available at all times, a constant pattern of non-voting is not helpful to the town in the long-run. However I do see you made time to vote for me today, it's just the breaking of your pattern that surprises me that is all, but you have adequately explained yourself on this item.

2. You may have poorly phrased your statement, but the point still stands that there was no connection between Payton taking out the mafia and the mafia eliminating Payton. The only connection possible would have come from private interactions and this only occurred as far as we know between Payton and Franklin and the only one who would know of that connection would be Franklin's fellow mafia members. From a logical point of view, you are incapable of inferring there is any connection between the two deaths unless you had prior information.

3. I'm afraid I don't understand your explanation, could you please reword it.

4. From a townies perspective this is evidence of not voting, due to meta-gaming, but from a Mafia's perspective this could be seen as not trying to do one of your own in.

5. Even if the arguments had not been fake, there is nothing that says Betsy had to be guilty, she could have been as concerned a townie as supposedly you are, just trying to reach a logical conviction with the evidence that was at hand.

6. I never said you couldn't hold the views of our fellow town members, but your statements seem obvious rehashes of Evan's reasoning, but we could wait on to hear what Evan has to say.

7.I wouldn't say our charade was a failure as it obviously was enough for you to take the bait, but whether we caught a real mafia or not will have to be seen. As to wasting a conviction on you how could that be? If you turn out townie then we will be one step closer to who the real mafia must be by process of elimination. If you turn out mafia, then we're one step closer to fully eliminating the mafia infestation. Do you have any better suggestions because time is running out.

[Scorpiox]

Withdrawing my vote was nothing to do with covering up, I knew since that post ages ago I was doomed so don't start with that now.

As for my own reasons? As I said earlier, since when was it ilegal to share someone's views. I know I'm dead already. That grand plan of yours was a waste if you weren't careful one of you could've ended up dead.

Brody, My your argument about Payton and Franklin still doesn't work. I never said that Payton was killed BECAUSE he was a vigilante, only that he was a vigilante and was killed. They both died in the same night, I'm sure the scum never new he was gonna kill Franklin. What happend was he decided to kill Franklin, the scum decided to kill him, it was probably a coincidence that It all happended in one night.

What I was also saying is that we were afraid of the penalty for not convicting and that is why we all are in a hurry to convict every night.

This is probably my last post of this game, tommorow you will discover my alliegence. Good luck to everybody and It was fun while it lasted.

I have lots of evidence that is going to the grave with me, byeeeeeee!

[Waterbrick Down]

Withdrawing my vote was nothing to do with covering up, I knew since that post ages ago I was doomed so don't start with that now.

As for my own reasons? As I said earlier, since when was it ilegal to share someone's views. I know I'm dead already. That grand plan of yours was a waste if you weren't careful one of you could've ended up dead.

Brody, My your argument about Payton and Franklin still doesn't work. I never said that Payton was killed BECAUSE he was a vigilante, only that he was a vigilante and was killed. They both died in the same night, I'm sure the scum never new he was gonna kill Franklin. What happend was he decided to kill Franklin, the scum decided to kill him, it was probably a coincidence that It all happended in one night.

What I was also saying is that we were afraid of the penalty for not convicting and that is why we all are in a hurry to convict every night.

This is probably my last post of this game, tommorow you will discover my alliegence. Good luck to everybody and It was fun while it lasted.

I have lots of evidence that is going to the grave with me, byeeeeeee!

Ok forget the Payton Franklin argument, it's just a wording thing, who knows? As far as being onto you, my group has eliminated the remaining mafia down to among 4 players including yourself, you just fit the best. I'll join in asking, if you have any evidence to save yourself please share it, I don't want convict a townie as much as you do if we can still get a mafia, but you aren't giving us much to work with in terms of your innocence.

[Donut]

I have lots of evidence that is going to the grave with me, byeeeeeee!

There are still people who are willing to believe. Now if you have insightful evidence that will help this town then spill it out! That is if you're true desires are for the well-being of the good citizens in this town. Don't just walk away and threaten us like that!

[MetroiD]

I have lots of evidence that is going to the grave with me, byeeeeeee!

Way to go, "Townie". And you actually have the audicity to ask us for proof that you don't care about the Town whatsoever? Enjoy your trip to the Mayor, Gertrude.