Pirates of the Caribbean 5

[DarthSion]

There is a script for the 5th movie, been approved by devil I mean disney, but Depp is not keen on the idea.

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[JimBee]

And they didn't even get a critical response for 4 yet? I think they should stop while they're ahead, but since when did big franchise series directors/producers ever care about the series's image? Never. As long as people continue watching them, they'll keep making them.

I would've been extremely content with an open-ended conclusion to At World's End, but I am looking forward to On Stranger Tides. We'll see how it turns out though.

I'm surprised Depp is still interested in playing the role of Jack Sparrow at all. If anyone remembers, Bloom and Knightly both turned down roles in the fourth film, so I would think that Depp would've followed suit eventually. Of course, he's the perfect man for the job, and I doubt anyone else could play Sparrow and still have the same result, but still, there's got to be a time when he finally says no.

[Big Cam]

If Depp isn't in it, it will fail.

[Gryphon Ink]

As long as people continue watching them, they'll keep making them.

That's pretty much the whole story in eleven words. This is a major cash cow for Disney, Depp and everyone else involved. Depp has the advantage here of not really needing the money. It's great when a writer or an actor doesn't need the money, then they can be selective about projects and only put out good work. The Mouse House, however, is a corporation - and corporations are ALWAYS hungry.

I doubt anyone else could play Sparrow and still have the same result, but still, there's got to be a time when he finally says no.

I'm sure he will eventually say no, or else eventually they'll put out a movie that's just really bad and people will loathe it so much it will become clear that the franchise needs to retire. At that point they'll put it to sleep and reboot it ten years later with a different actor playing a different hero who will be similar to Jack, but not identical. I predict that no one else will play Jack Sparrow in this generation, because JD defined the role, just like Schwarzenegger defined the Terminator and William Shatner defined Captain Kirk. In another 15-20 years, yes, someone else will be Jack Sparrow.

There's always the chance that they'll use the Bond formula and switch off actors every few years for a really long-lived series, but I'd bet against it. Not many franchises have been able to duplicate the success of James Bond, and I really don't think POTC has Bond's legs anyway. It's a great series, but it's too specific to last as long as Bond.

[DarthSion]

And they didn't even get a critical response for 4 yet? I think they should stop while they're ahead,

Yeah because that is what an evil corporation like disney do stop when they are making bucket loads of cash.

Its bruckheimer for crying out loud, he is a high rent bay what do you expect, him to care about image, all he cares about is big explosions and lots of special effect and stupid camera angles.

[JimBee]

I'm sure he will eventually say no, or else eventually they'll put out a movie that's just really bad and people will loathe it so much it will become clear that the franchise needs to retire. At that point they'll put it to sleep and reboot it ten years later with a different actor playing a different hero who will be similar to Jack, but not identical. I predict that no one else will play Jack Sparrow in this generation, because JD defined the role, just like Schwarzenegger defined the Terminator and William Shatner defined Captain Kirk. In another 15-20 years, yes, someone else will be Jack Sparrow.

There's always the chance that they'll use the Bond formula and switch off actors every few years for a really long-lived series, but I'd bet against it. Not many franchises have been able to duplicate the success of James Bond, and I really don't think POTC has Bond's legs anyway. It's a great series, but it's too specific to last as long as Bond.

Interesting points. I think the first is much more likely, just like they did with the other big series or even single films. Star Wars, Terminator, Indiana Jones, Tron... the list goes on. Not that it's always a bad thing, I like a few of reboots, but I'm sure older fans might feel differently.

I agree that PotC doesn't stand a chance as a constant series like the Bond films. The main thing preventing that is the fact that the first three films were very different from each other, but were all connected. The 007 films, on the other hand, all follow a similar formula so that a new adventure can be created for each film. And like you said, I don't imagine a specific plot such as that of PotC can have too many creative opportunities to offer.

Yeah because that is what an evil corporation like disney do stop when they are making bucket loads of cash.

Its bruckheimer for crying out loud, he is a high rent bay what do you expect, him to care about image, all he cares about is big explosions and lots of special effect and stupid camera angles.

Are you agreeing with me? I basically said the same thing.

[simonjedi]

Are you agreeing with me? I basically said the same thing.

He is, he just has to include his daily bile against Facebook/Michael Bay/Disney/Nintendo Wii

[bionicle factory]

The worst thing that could happen to POTC5 is that Barborsa becomes the main charater.

[DarthSion]

The worst thing to happen was for Mrs over pout anorexic to be replaced by that ugly sheila, and for Bill Nighy to be killed off who is a much better actor than Geoffrey Rush.

[simonjedi]

The worst thing to happen was for Mrs over pout anorexic to be replaced by that ugly sheila,

:wacko:

[Ro87n]

If Depp isn't in it, it will fail.

Totally true. Without Depp in it, it's ment to fail, good thing he wanted to do the 4th PotC or it would have been Aston Cusher

Edited May 8, 2011 by Ro87n

[DarthSion]

:wacko:

What?.

[Professor Flitwick]

What?.

I think Simon was confused by the odd placement of words, the fact that you still seem to insult the lesser of the two evils you're addressing, and you're surprisingly lax and derogative attitude to what is a serious disorder.

Can't tell for certain if this is what confused Simon, but it certainly startled me.

[simonjedi]

I think Simon was confused by the odd placement of words, the fact that you still seem to insult the lesser of the two evils you're addressing, and you're surprisingly lax and derogative attitude to what is a serious disorder.

Can't tell for certain if this is what confused Simon, but it certainly startled me.

Pretty much this. You seem to use an excessive amount of hatred and bile for things you don't like. Did you like Keira? Have you actually seen the 'ugly sheila' (?)' in the film? Or do you hate her for no reason?

Pirates 5 you say?

[DarthSion]

I like her face, just wish she would admit she is anorexic and get help.

Penelope Cruz has clearly had plastic surgery.

Yeah and there will 6, probably more its a huge cash cow will go the same was as saw, and Friday the 13th.

As for Depp even if he does not do any more, they will simply do what they did with Keira and have new characters.

What they should do is reboot it, fast and the furious 4 was much better than 2 and 3, yeah reboot and have Depp replaced with Andy Whitfield, now that would be awesome, Andy is almost over his cancer, as they are going to recast him in Spartacus he is free, he has the look of a bad megablocks pirate, then maybe for the first time in history Depp could go on to play do a new movie in which he is not, in the head.

Bring back Ragetti and Pintel, they were good for a laugh.

As for hot leading lady, whats her name the iso from tron 2, 13 from house, although I heard she is rumoured to be Lara Croft.

For a bad guy who better than Temuera Morrison.(Jango Fett)

Edited May 10, 2011 by DarthSion

[JimBee]

As for hot leading lady, whats her name the iso from tron 2, 13 from house, although I heard she is rumoured to be Lara Croft.

Olivia Wilde? Yeah she's good looking, but I wonder how she would fit in with a movie like POTC. Only one way to find out, I guess.

For a bad guy who better than Temuera Morrison.(Jango Fett)

That sounds reasonable. He's got the accent, and the swagger, I could see him as a pirate (or Imperial commander, whichever is needed).

[Gryphon Ink]

Penelope Cruz has clearly had plastic surgery.

Seriously? What part of her? Her breasts, lips and nose, at least, haven't been altered since I first saw her in *Open Your Eyes*. In fact, she's been appearing nude since she was 17, so it ought to be really easy to find out when she had anything changed, but there has never been any noticeable sudden change in her appearance. People who actually make a living spotting cosmetic surgery for fashion mags and websites have said that she might have had subtle and tasteful lip injections, and a couple of them have decided that her nose has a shape that could possibly be a product of cosmetic surgery - or it could be just, you know, the shape of her nose. None of them are sure about any of it, and generally she is pointed out as one of the actresses who really doesn't need to go under the knife.

[DarthSion]

Olivia Wilde? Yeah she's good looking, but I wonder how she would fit in with a movie like POTC. Only one way to find out, I guess.

That sounds reasonable. He's got the accent, and the swagger, I could see him as a pirate (or Imperial commander, whichever is needed).

Yeah her, well only one way to tell, but Andy would be excellent.

Yeah he does have the swagger, if you seen him as Doctore in gods of the arena, more as like the Devy Jones type.

As for imperial commander John Hannah was brilliant as Batiatus, so was Craig Parker as Claudius Glaber.

[Captain Becker]

I see this very unlikely, every movie has its ending movie at somepoint, and i think Depp isnt intrested to contiune POTC film series. If, and i say if we are getting yet the fift movie... Njah, i loose my intrest to the whole series. It had its time and 2011 is a good year to end it.

Peapole will keep watching them, but if they are making more movies, peapole gets soon bored to it. And this is a fact.

Plus, when there arent many old characters in the new movies, the audience dont care the films, for me, POTC 4 wont seem to be very intresting movie, why? Because we are missing almoust every main and orginal character, like: Pintel and Ragetti. At least old good Mr. Gibbs is there My favortie character in the whole series, but it think he wont be in the movie than right from the start, and leave jack then.

Captain Becker

[Fives]

I could see them making a second trilogy. Even though this fourth movie has been getting pretty bad reviews, they will still try to make them. If they do, it will become the POTC version of the Star Wars prequels. They will not be as good, but they will be there, and part of the story.

I have not yet seen the new film yet myself, but I have been reading some stuff and I kinda know how it ends. I won't give anything away, but it could have a sequel.

[def]

I don't think POTC will ever be comparable to the SW series/prequels, simply because the story is not continuous. They are a series of adventures, maybe comparable to Indiana Jones.

Johnny Depp publically stated in an interview last week that he never even watched the second and third ones, and that Verbinski told him he didn't know what was going on with the story while directing. I think you can tell they were junk movies just from that. It's a shame that a quality actor like Depp is doing this to himself, but I won't begrudge him it, I'm sure he's putting the cash to good use.

True movie fans should boycott this on principle in hopes to discourage a fifth one. It won't stop Bruckheimer, but it may open his eyes up to the importance of quality, and not rushing a movie to meet the summer release deadline.

[Fives]

I don't think POTC will ever be comparable to the SW series/prequels, simply because the story is not continuous. They are a series of adventures, maybe comparable to Indiana Jones.

Johnny Depp publically stated in an interview last week that he never even watched the second and third ones, and that Verbinski told him he didn't know what was going on with the story while directing. I think you can tell they were junk movies just from that. It's a shame that a quality actor like Depp is doing this to himself, but I won't begrudge him it, I'm sure he's putting the cash to good use.

True movie fans should boycott this on principle in hopes to discourage a fifth one. It won't stop Bruckheimer, but it may open his eyes up to the importance of quality, and not rushing a movie to meet the summer release deadline.

Personally, I like the second and third movies much more than the first. I think they told a much better story. It just felt more rich. Also, Davy Jones ranks up there as one of the best villains ever. The first was good, but it just set the stage. The second and third, I thought, was when the story really got good.

Now that I think of it, they should call it quits. This fourth one hopefully will leave it open ended, but not introduce a new quest, like the Aqua de Vida did in AWE. They should just leave the characters off to new adventures, and allow the fans to make up whatever fates they wish for Jack and Barbossa. Also, if they made a fifth, who would be the villain? And what is the plot? If they made a fifth, it could just be a way of giving Jack a proper happily ever after (on the Pearl with lots of rum), and Barbossa should, in my opinion, permanently die. He is just one of those sorts of characters who doesn't really deserve all of the happy ending stuff.