WhiteHexagon Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 Hi All, I was wondering if anyone has a good place for checking prices for sets. There's a shop here thats got some discounts running, but i've no idea if they are good value for money or not. eg 3420 is selling for 40EUR down from 56EUR. I'd like to buy a few because of all the minifigs :) Cheers Peter Quote
snefroe Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 i guess you're basically asking if there's a place you can buy this sets or any other set you like for less than the reduced price... 1) i always check prices on bricklink.com. 2) lego.com i still find 40 euro rather high, considering bl has them for 40 dollars and i think they'll be on sale soon after the WC for less Quote
gylman Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 My name is Gylman, and I'nm a Legoholic My best bargoons have from S@H sales, but the selection is poor, especially this year. Places like Walmart Kmart, Winners (in CAnada) can ahve great sales on semi-decent product that is 1-2 years old, but again, this has seemed much less prominent this year. I used to prowl those stores routinely, but I've stopped doing that due to low yield. Gone are the days when I could pick up a Metroliner re-issue for $50, Adventurers/Technic sets at 60$% off, etc. I think there is much less on sale this year than last few , presumably because the product is selling better and they are not overproducing. Bricklink almost never costs less than buying direct from Lego on current items. eBay is the best bargain place, but after you're done with the shipping cost it often isn't nearly as good a bargoon as you thought. In general, the best eBay bargains are for bulk lots, but if you cost out the time you spend sorting and cleaning it probably ends up costing more than you would have saved if you bought mint sealed items from Lego directly. Once in a while you find an incredible eBay bargain, usually because the seller has mis-listed the item, or is in a country far away and people don't want to wait or mail money. However, these are getting fewer and fewer, and if you look at all the time you have to spend to look for those bargoons, it's quickly obbvious that it's not a cost savings. Unless, of course, you enjoy scrolling through page after page of eBay lego listings, which I do 8- Quote
snefroe Posted July 3, 2006 Posted July 3, 2006 My name is Gylman, and I'nm a LegoholicMy best bargoons have from S@H sales, but the selection is poor, especially this year. Places like Walmart Kmart, Winners (in CAnada) can ahve great sales on semi-decent product that is 1-2 years old, but again, this has seemed much less prominent this year. I used to prowl those stores routinely, but I've stopped doing that due to low yield. Gone are the days when I could pick up a Metroliner re-issue for $50, Adventurers/Technic sets at 60$% off, etc. I think there is much less on sale this year than last few , presumably because the product is selling better and they are not overproducing. Bricklink almost never costs less than buying direct from Lego on current items. eBay is the best bargain place, but after you're done with the shipping cost it often isn't nearly as good a bargoon as you thought. In general, the best eBay bargains are for bulk lots, but if you cost out the time you spend sorting and cleaning it probably ends up costing more than you would have saved if you bought mint sealed items from Lego directly. Once in a while you find an incredible eBay bargain, usually because the seller has mis-listed the item, or is in a country far away and people don't want to wait or mail money. However, these are getting fewer and fewer, and if you look at all the time you have to spend to look for those bargoons, it's quickly obbvious that it's not a cost savings. Unless, of course, you enjoy scrolling through page after page of eBay lego listings, which I do 8- Quote
WhiteHexagon Posted July 4, 2006 Author Posted July 4, 2006 I always forget about S@H for some reason. Maybe I'm just old fashined and like to pick up and shake a box in a shop before buying :) Not too hard of course, wouldnt want to hurt the minifigs! Anyway I went back via the city tonight and bought it. Turned out to be 30EUR and quite good fun :)) Peter Quote
oo7 Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 there is no bargain,lego IS expensive No offence CustomClone, but you really do have an intellectual capacity of which a four-year-old possesses. Quote
Hobbes Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 No offence CustomClone, but you really do have an intellectual capacity of which a four-year-old possesses. Ignore him. Trolls can't feed on ignorance... Quote
xwingyoda Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Indeed, let us, the admin strike force, deal with those members !! Just ignore them ;-) *yoda* Quote
WhiteHexagon Posted July 5, 2006 Author Posted July 5, 2006 I went back to buy another one today for a gift, and they have sold out already, so I guess it really was a good bargin! maybe they will discount some more of the football Sports range now that the world cup is ending here in Germany... Quote
natelite Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 i still believe ebay holds great bargain. at least i can speak for the US ebay. if you are patient and don't overbid in your zeal you can get a great bargain. i have routinely seek for 30% discount even after shipping compared to retail and have won! to give you some idea to the savings i get, the sets i have won to-date (all price are after shipping cost): 6209 slave 1 for $40 7705 gate assault for $20 7781 batmobile vs twoface for $24 7782 batwing vs joker for $33 7781 & 7782 loose without box without instruction for $30 (instructions and original batmobile rims i bought off bl for ~$4 -- the order contained other items so i have to proportionate the cost). the items were in the original plastic bags but i could see the rims were the newer (uglier) version so i bought the older rims off bl. 6208 b-wing and the jedi star fighter vs droid ship and the clone scout walker (i dont remember the set numbers) for $35 (total 3 sets are $65 retail) 7477 t1 typhoon for $46 (i have seen someone got one for only $36 - was on my watch list) all items were misb!!! or were advertised as misb. i have my trick of winning super low bids but not going to reveal it as it's still my primary venue for buying cheap lego sets. :-P recently target is selling the bionicle playsets at a 50% discount. the battle of metru nui is going for like $35 i think. but i doubt any shop would sell star wars, batman or exoforce sets at a huge discount, so i'm still going to stick with ebay for now. :-) Quote
customclone Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 first of all, guys, i was being serious, lego is not cheap. i don't know how much you people are earning but there ARE people who can't afford to buy them even if they are on sale. if you don't believe me, next time when you go and visit the toys section of any place you will hear a child asking his parent to buy him something and the parent would often said it is too expensive. also, i was just answering the question of this thread" is lego discounts really a bargain?" so i don't see anything wrong with my answer if I point out it is expensive (to me at least). now i have not attacked anyone and i was just bringing up my own point of view in a civilised manner, so there is no need for all that "4 year old", "trool" name calling around. if anyone thinks there is something wrong with what i have said, say it properly. i am more than welcome to comprehend different opinions from members here since i think some of you guys DO know something about lego and have earned my respect. i have my trick of winning super low bids but not going to reveal it as it's still my primary venue for buying cheap lego sets. :-Precently target is selling the bionicle playsets at a 50% discount. the battle of metru nui is going for like $35 i think. but i doubt any shop would sell star wars, batman or exoforce sets at a huge discount, so i'm still going to stick with ebay for now. :-) natelite, i often bid on ebay too and your secret trick is well known to every ebayer (believe me on this). all you have to do is bid the highest amount you are willing to pay on the item, and that will scare every other bidder because no matter what they bid, you will automatically outbid them. and if anyone DO outbids you by any chance, then you would have lost the auction so you don't pay anything and can move on to another auction. this method would eventually brings you lego 70% of the retail price. Quote
Hobbes Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 now i have not attacked anyone and i was just bringing up my own point of view in a civilised manner, Didn't sound like it, though... so there is no need for all that "4 year old", "trool" name calling around. if anyone thinks there is something wrong with what i have said, say it properly. We would have, if your way of civilised expression would have shown more clearly... natelite, i often bid on ebay too and your secret trick is well known to every ebayer (believe me on this). all you have to do is bid the highest amount you are willing to pay on the item, and that will scare every other bidder because no matter what they bid, you will automatically outbid them. and if anyone DO outbids you by any chance, then you would have lost the auction so you don't pay anything and can move on to another auction. this method would eventually brings you lego 70% of the retail price. I doubt that. Inexperienced ebayers in a bidding war tend to overpay a lot, so you end up with lots of auctions you didn't win. Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. Quote
snefroe Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. in a normal auction, the auctioneer will ask the public one last time if any one wants to over bid the highest offer. that's great for the seller as well. he always gets the highest price. on ebay, time is so dominant that you can use the '15 second rule' all too well. that's not great for the seller and many bidders feel they've been cheated. Ebay should allow to keep the auction open for another minute or so when people are bidding within the last minute or so, because there's still a possibility of getting an ever higher price... Quote
customclone Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. in a normal auction, the auctioneer will ask the public one last time if any one wants to over bid the highest offer. that's great for the seller as well. he always gets the highest price. on ebay, time is so dominant that you can use the '15 second rule' all too well. that's not great for the seller and many bidders feel they've been cheated. Ebay should allow to keep the auction open for another minute or so when people are bidding within the last minute or so, because there's still a possibility of getting an ever higher price... if bidding is opened for another minute bidders will bid at the end of that extra minute....... so doesn't help, does it Quote
snefroe Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. in a normal auction, the auctioneer will ask the public one last time if any one wants to over bid the highest offer. that's great for the seller as well. he always gets the highest price. on ebay, time is so dominant that you can use the '15 second rule' all too well. that's not great for the seller and many bidders feel they've been cheated. Ebay should allow to keep the auction open for another minute or so when people are bidding within the last minute or so, because there's still a possibility of getting an ever higher price... if bidding is opened for another minute bidders will bid at the end of that extra minute....... so doesn't help, does it nono the idea is to keep that going untill no one is willing to go even higher... Quote
customclone Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. in a normal auction, the auctioneer will ask the public one last time if any one wants to over bid the highest offer. that's great for the seller as well. he always gets the highest price. on ebay, time is so dominant that you can use the '15 second rule' all too well. that's not great for the seller and many bidders feel they've been cheated. Ebay should allow to keep the auction open for another minute or so when people are bidding within the last minute or so, because there's still a possibility of getting an ever higher price... if bidding is opened for another minute bidders will bid at the end of that extra minute....... so doesn't help, does it nono the idea is to keep that going untill no one is willing to go even higher... how does ebay know when exactly would "no one is willing to go even higher" occur???? Quote
snefroe Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. in a normal auction, the auctioneer will ask the public one last time if any one wants to over bid the highest offer. that's great for the seller as well. he always gets the highest price. on ebay, time is so dominant that you can use the '15 second rule' all too well. that's not great for the seller and many bidders feel they've been cheated. Ebay should allow to keep the auction open for another minute or so when people are bidding within the last minute or so, because there's still a possibility of getting an ever higher price... if bidding is opened for another minute bidders will bid at the end of that extra minute....... so doesn't help, does it nono the idea is to keep that going untill no one is willing to go even higher... how does ebay know when exactly would "no one is willing to go even higher" occur???? i don't think it's that difficult. Ebay registers the bidding times. So if some one bids in the last minute, the system should automatically add another minute, providing extra time to the first bidder to check the new bid and if he wants to, offer a new bid. if he does, then that means he bid in the last minute , so another minute is added, giving the second bidder a minute to evaluate the situation. he then can decline, leading to a higher price for the goods then when the originel auction ended, even though he didn't win, or he can, in return, offer an even better price. Actually, this is what happens in a real auction; every one gets the opportunity to make his final stand. and let's face it, it won't go on forever, if your max bid is 150 euro for a specific product, if that's how far you wanna go, then you won't bid for 155 euro, therefore, no new bid , auction ended... Quote
xwingyoda Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 G guys, can you cut the extensive quoting please !! Its getting really ridiculous :-| Tks ;-) *yoda* Quote
Sir Dillon Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Though this is a bit off topic, customclone, you wouldn't happen to be privateeye2004 from FBTB, would you? Quote
natelite Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 "sniping" doesnt always work. i have also made bids 1 day prior and won. bidding your max dollar is stupid. you often end up paying max dollar. i have seen people paying $20 for a clone trooper because the idiot probably bid $100 thinking he really wanted the minifig at all cost. i have in some cases bid by the lowest increment (eg $0.50 or $1) to bid up the price, making idiots like that pay more than they needed to. i have seen instances where 6211 isd went above $100 not including the shipping charges. hmm, why, when the shops are retailing for $100? these are us bidders btw, not foreign buyers. the key is patience, and smart bidding. :) Quote
gylman Posted July 5, 2006 Posted July 5, 2006 Sniping, on the other hand, is a lot cheaper, methinks, cos there's no bidding war and you bid within the last few seconds so no one has the time to rethink their maximum bid. i do this as well, however, i think it's a very unfair and not even a correct way of organising an auction. It is, however, part of the fun of eBay. Agree with what's been said. Patience. Look for spelling errors and wrong or no set numbers, so searches don't bring bring them up. MY impression is also that sets sell for higher on weekend evenings and evenings in general. Of course, that's when the smart sellers list, but you can always find an exception here or there. Quote
customclone Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 if it is possible, why has ebay not done what you have said??? Quote
SuvieD Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 Customclone is right in that LEGO is not a poor man's toy or hobby. Only at 50% off or more does it become affordable to nearly everyone. Some pieces are worth more per ounce than gold is. What other toy can claim that? I think if you want a set either wait for a sale or a price markdown. Paying full price is paying too much. The only exceptions should be sets not available on sale or limited run sets that dissappear the second they are on sale. LEGO is a bargain at 50% off in almost every case. Maybe not with a few sets but nearly all of them are. Though 75% is the real winner. New $50 sets at $12.50 are some of the best deals I have gotten. Not lately but oh how sweet those were. Quote
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