lightningtiger Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Well I have made a start...... Any advice, suggestions and comments are very, very welcome - any links to assist in this build. Brick On ! Quote
AussieJimbo Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Wishing you all the best for the build, LT. 8-wide leaves plenty of room for detailing. I look forward to watching your progress. :classic: Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks 'AJ' for the positive comments. I'm going to try a few different engine designs including Class 500 and maybe one other apart from this one. Keep on watching ! Quote
Jan Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Could you post a reference picture if possible? I looked for the 422 class Pacific National, but couldn't find a decent image. It's allways quite a challenge to get the nose of the loc to look properly. Keep up the good work. Quote
Chromeknight Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Could you post a reference picture if possible? I looked for the 422 class Pacific National, but couldn't find a decent image. Not sure which locomotive LT has in mind. There is a 422 class, but no locomotives numbered 422 that I could find. However the build does look like an AN class. Specifically AN5http://trains.chookman.id.au/pn/an5f.jpg Is that the one? Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 7, 2011 Author Posted March 7, 2011 Thanks for the feedback so far everyone, actually I'm trying for this.... I know I have a lot to do better and a long way to go.....so I'll be back working on it tomorrow ! Updating after that.....so keep on watching ! Quote
LEGO Train 12 Volts Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Very nice train LT! ...as I've just said I'm not a great fan of "8 studs size", but I trust in your skills ...so we keep on watching! Quote
vgsprites Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Nice start so far lightningtiger. Pieces shold be easy to obtain using common blue and yellow colors after you have the design laid out of course. Can not wait to see it finished! Will this be the loco going around your layout next month at the train show? Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Thanks again everyone, this is a tough build and I still have a long way to go.....I have even made a colouring mistake along the bottom edge and I fear a scaling error has been made...I think my engine is going to be too short ? Advice....yeah, any I would welcome still, I'm comfortable building town, but train engines are a different ballgame.....oh, and yes, that's why I'm building this for the April train show....found out it's a 3 day'er....my wife is going to kill me ! Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 8, 2011 Author Posted March 8, 2011 Bad news, my train has a length to width ratio of 4 to 1.....the real one is at least 6 to 1. Oh, crap.....I've shot myself in the foot now.....any advice ? Quote
Toastie Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Bad news, my train has a length to width ratio of 4 to 1.....the real one is at least 6 to 1. Oh, crap.....I've shot myself in the foot now.....any advice ? Hi LT, 8-wide on that curvature is a - well - a challenge, if you want to adhere to scale. Why don't you just create a "shorter version" of the real train? LEGO is about imagination and creativity, not sooo much about building to scale. Your 8-wide model along with the color scheme you showed may very well turn into a cool LEGO(!) train. All the best, Thorsten Quote
dr_spock Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I hope you're not going to blame me for suggesting the 422 class. You could try some selective compression. I don't think it has to be exact scale. Nice start. Quote
peterab Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 (edited) Bad news, my train has a length to width ratio of 4 to 1.....the real one is at least 6 to 1. Oh, crap.....I've shot myself in the foot now.....any advice ? There's a few standard responses to this dilemma. a) build a static model to scale, these are normally larger ie 8 wide up, but wont run on curved rails b) build a 6 wide, with scale dimensions though the height gets awkward if you want minifigs to fit, c) use selective compression, so your moc isn't a scale representation, but looks like the prototype and has it's main features (many mocs look too short and tall because of this) Most Mocs use a combination of techniques depending on what the designer has in mind. Looking at the prototype, I wouldn't use the windows you've chosen, they are too square IMHO. I'd start with some sideways 2x2 tans clear panels. That would allow you to fit six wide, but the snot work would be complicated. Actually I'd use a 2x6x2 windscreen and sticker the window frames, that would give you the slope easily and allow you to match the frame shape. Edited March 9, 2011 by peterab Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 9, 2011 Author Posted March 9, 2011 Today, I put the axe so to speak to this MOC.....I wasn't enjoying this one at all ! Thanks to all who gave feedback and support......but all is not lost - look for my next train topic ! Quote
Captain Zuloo Posted March 9, 2011 Posted March 9, 2011 No real point giving you lots of feedback on an axed MOC, but you may be interested in my Pacific National train. It's an NR loco, so a different class, but it might help in some way anyhow. Check it out: Flickr Link The only thing I'd suggest for your next train, is go 6-wide rather than 8. It will be strange if your trains are that big considering the smallish nature of the rest on New Mannum. Quote
Illawarra48class Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 Hi Lightning Tiger. I'm brand new so won't try guessing - but, Lego is surely an abstract expression of any subject? If I wanted to model an 81 Class, I reckon an 80's style steep wrap around windscreens (six studs wide) would give me a better angle, even if they're not prototypical. Perhaps for emphasis I'd step the windscreen back a stud layer. I'd go for 45 deg roof panels and flat two stud centre for the roof to get that 81 feel, and let it overhang the windscreen. If feeling reckless, I'd chuck a lighting brick into the roof profile along with header and cab lights to make 'er look like she meant business on an overnight freighter. All in all, you're on the right track. IFC Quote
lightningtiger Posted March 12, 2011 Author Posted March 12, 2011 Well, thank you anyway 'Illawarra48class', but the 422 is history as it's chassis now forms the base for the Class 500 SAR Diesel engine. Brick On ! Quote
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