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Hi everybody!

My names Rich, and I am a returning Lego fan / builder. I mainly like Technic (studded stuff, I am too ham-fisted to use the studless/liftarm stuff well :tongue:, it just seems less intuitive to me...) but I also like Town and Futuron.

I entered my dark ages in 1998, after some truly great sets I found the Barcode truck very disappointing. The sets released in 98 and the thought of lego not being "cool" anymore (I realise that is complete nonsense now :classic: ) pushed me into the dark ages. Competition sets such as 8266, and other sets such as 8428, and 8462 really put me off to be quite honest! - apologies to any fans of those sets :wink:

I returned when I brought the Mindstorms NXT set in 2007, and the 8275 bulldozer in an Argos sale. Hope to get active in the lego community.

I have a few project ideas I wish to build. I also wish everyone a Happy New Year.

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Hi and thanks for the welcome.

Your MOC is very impressive but I still find studless (for me anyway) less intuitive :tongue: . I would hate to think how much that cost, but it really is awesome :thumbup:

Traditional technic was fairly easy to keep track of spacing on all dimensions (basically beam, two plates, beam and you could not go wrong). I feel as if with studless you have to design a geartrain first, and design the frame around it which for someone that entered their dark ages before studless really came out is quite a change. I feel its a change from bottom up design to inside out design.

I guess my other reasoning is I have yet to build an off the shelf Lego set that has had me awe inspired like the 8880 or 8480 :sweet: . Perhaps I will get used to the studless as time goes on :blush:

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Hi and thanks for the welcome.

Your MOC is very impressive but I still find studless (for me anyway) less intuitive :tongue: . I would hate to think how much that cost, but it really is awesome :thumbup:

Traditional technic was fairly easy to keep track of spacing on all dimensions (basically beam, two plates, beam and you could not go wrong). I feel as if with studless you have to design a geartrain first, and design the frame around it which for someone that entered their dark ages before studless really came out is quite a change. I feel its a change from bottom up design to inside out design.

I guess my other reasoning is I have yet to build an off the shelf Lego set that has had me awe inspired like the 8880 or 8480 :sweet: . Perhaps I will get used to the studless as time goes on :blush:

Thanks much for the praise :classic:

As a town-nut in my childhood I was used to the bottom up design as you mentioned, but I never got the hang of the technic aspects of that building method. After being introduced to LEGO mindstorms and studless in 2008, which was also when I came out of the DA, I was really happy with the studless building method. I managed to do this much easier than bottom up. I can't really say why, but it comes easier to me to build inside out for some reason.

As I was going to say, when it comes to town and modular houses then I think it's pretty straight forward with the bottom up method, and I have a hard time with SNOTing for some reason. Really strange really, considering snot is more like studless building.

Hope you understood what I was trying to say. If not, I'll rephrase it for you :classic:

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Thanks Ratshot!

Thanks much for the praise :classic:

As a town-nut in my childhood I was used to the bottom up design as you mentioned, but I never got the hang of the technic aspects of that building method. After being introduced to LEGO mindstorms and studless in 2008, which was also when I came out of the DA, I was really happy with the studless building method. I managed to do this much easier than bottom up. I can't really say why, but it comes easier to me to build inside out for some reason.

As I was going to say, when it comes to town and modular houses then I think it's pretty straight forward with the bottom up method, and I have a hard time with SNOTing for some reason. Really strange really, considering snot is more like studless building.

Hope you understood what I was trying to say. If not, I'll rephrase it for you :classic:

I also came out of the DA with Mindstorms set, I am currently building the 8043 excavator (its quite fun build) but I just can not get over the number of connector pegs used in studless. I have two tubs full of pegs just for this set. I rememeber my hands was starting to hurt at dissasembling the bulldozer for the same reason - so many pegs. I guess its that or struggling to get 1x2 plates apart for example :tongue:.

Some of the new parts are quite neat in the studless sets (like the brackets for bevel gears used in the base of the excavator). I guess I just wish lego would use whats best for the job at hand. Sometimes that will be studless sometimes it will be studded, but they seem to shy away from studded technic parts for some reason.

I guess at the end of the day everyone has their own preferences :classic:

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I also came out of the DA with Mindstorms set, I am currently building the 8043 excavator (its quite fun build) but I just can not get over the number of connector pegs used in studless. I have two tubs full of pegs just for this set. I rememeber my hands was starting to hurt at dissasembling the bulldozer for the same reason - so many pegs. I guess its that or struggling to get 1x2 plates apart for example :tongue:.

Some of the new parts are quite neat in the studless sets (like the brackets for bevel gears used in the base of the excavator). I guess I just wish lego would use whats best for the job at hand. Sometimes that will be studless sometimes it will be studded, but they seem to shy away from studded technic parts for some reason.

I guess at the end of the day everyone has their own preferences :classic:

I had it exactly the same way when taking apart the bulldozer. My thumb was rather destroyed and I had blizters on it when I was done with it. But the funny thing is after a while building every day with studless and technic pins, your thumbskin starts to harden and it won't feel as soar anymore. After building PAHAB and redoing the legs maybe 7-8 times, I had the roughest skin on my thumb.

When it comes to studded, it's seen as the old style of technic, which isn't being used much anymore and the studless is the new way.

Basically, you're totally right when it comes to preferences, but heck you can build a lot of crazy stuff out of technic. Have you seen Eric Sophies Jamocklaquat? I had a lot of inspiration taken from it when building PAHAB, even though I used totally different techniques and parts.

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I had it exactly the same way when taking apart the bulldozer. My thumb was rather destroyed and I had blizters on it when I was done with it. But the funny thing is after a while building every day with studless and technic pins, your thumbskin starts to harden and it won't feel as soar anymore. After building PAHAB and redoing the legs maybe 7-8 times, I had the roughest skin on my thumb.

When it comes to studded, it's seen as the old style of technic, which isn't being used much anymore and the studless is the new way.

Basically, you're totally right when it comes to preferences, but heck you can build a lot of crazy stuff out of technic. Have you seen Eric Sophies Jamocklaquat? I had a lot of inspiration taken from it when building PAHAB, even though I used totally different techniques and parts.

Glad its just not me that felt the pain of taking apart a studless set :laugh: That link is also awesome. I am mostly interested in robotics (more wheeled stuff at the moment), cars and clocks :classic:

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