rien Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I ask The batery's witch go's in the pf box are they made by lego? I hear that my batery is not from lego. So does duracel or philips or whatever. I think there is no diferent acept the voltage. Is my model of 8043 now a non lego model because the li-po? It would be the same if you make a converter to it to plug in the wall. Quote
DLuders Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Rien, I personally agree with you -- a Lego Technic MOC built with a non-Lego battery box (or no battery box) is still a Lego model. The argument by the so-called "Lego purists" (that one MUST use 100%-Lego parts) is absurd, when one considers that many REAL CARS don't have their original dealer-provided batteries in them. I've been to Lego shows, and they don't even judge MOCs whether or not they are battery-powered, plugged into an AC wall outlet, etc. There are no "bonus points" awarded for having 100%-Lego parts. I think creativity is stifled by being LIMITED to using stock Lego battery boxes. Rien, you have "pushed the envelope" by using the 11.1V LiPo battery pack for GREATER PERFORMANCE. It's the same thing one would do in their real car, by replacing their cheapo dealer-provided battery with another one with more CRANKING AMPS. Edited January 2, 2011 by DLuders Quote
eMHa Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 @rien: Put bricks around the LiPo and put (soldering) a LEGO power connector to the wire you will have a 100% pure LEGO battery Quote
rien Posted January 2, 2011 Author Posted January 2, 2011 @rien: Put bricks around the LiPo and put (soldering) a LEGO power connector to the wire you will have a 100% pure LEGO battery Nice idea !!!! Btw the rechargeble box of lego is lipo aswel!onley less in voltage. I wonder if backbone would accept this? Quote
dr_spock Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) Are Li-Ion usable for the battery box? Edited January 3, 2011 by dr_spock Quote
rien Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 I think the box is to tight for them . Quote
Sam42 Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 As a purist, i would feel bad about using modified or non lego elements in one of my mocs..... I've done it in the past, (home made (butchered) 2.5 stud cross axles) but only in situations where there were no viable lego solutions.. For me building lego is about the challenge of creating something using only the elements available within the lego palette, therefore using the non lego battery rather than re-engineering the model to resolve the performance issues detracts from it's validity, as it is no longer a pure lego creation. Quote
backbone Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 As a purist, i would feel bad about using modified or non lego elements in one of my mocs.... +1 Quote
rien Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) Agian like backbone I wonder where you guy's get lego alkalines? look at backpown's reply reply nr 5 nr0 Edited January 4, 2011 by rien Quote
backbone Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Agian like backbone I wonder where you guy's get lego alkalines? look at backpown's reply reply nr 5 nr0 I hate modyfing oryginal bboxes, or connecting non original battery packs (like one above - 11v battery pack). Get normal bbox (and use normal 1.2V rechargeable batteries), or lego recheargable battery. Quote
allanp Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I find that being a purist can sometimes help creativity by forcing you to solve a problem using only what Lego provides. I am a 100% purist but then I am so tempted to make some longer pneumatic cylinders and some gearbox parts right now! Quote
rien Posted January 4, 2011 Author Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) I find that being a purist can sometimes help creativity by forcing you to solve a problem using only what Lego provides. I am a 100% purist but then I am so tempted to make some longer pneumatic cylinders and some gearbox parts right now! I say go for it look at the possebility to create bigger things. You can build a L.A of lego bricks mut dosnt look so nice i have seen some pneumatic cilinders self made out of metal verry nice looking and you can make them verry long. Aswel for intrest i wil seargh some picts. And bone no i wont i do it how i like it if you hate it why dont look at my non lego models anymore. And why is it that you reply to buffalo's topic with no i hate this i hate that i call that b*tching. There you understand why he ad a NON lego batary to safe space. I do it to get more power.I see no difrent but the voltage!!! I dont understand where you see a diffrent? Edited January 4, 2011 by rien Quote
backbone Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 NON lego batary to safe space. But this is non lego element, saving space isnt good excuse for using those batteries. Same odd and ugly thing is modyfing original lego pieces, for own purposes. If you are lego builder, build using lego, not lego and other things. This is my opinion. Quote
allanp Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 (edited) I say go for it look at the possebility to create bigger things. You can build a L.A of lego bricks mut dosnt look so nice i have seen some pneumatic cilinders self made out of metal verry nice looking and you can make them verry long. Aswel for intrest i wil seargh some picts. Build an LA!!!!! NEVER!!!!!! unless i'm making a CNC machine Is this what you meant?: (sorry if i'm going off topic guys) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kMpVfnE4Rs These are really long, ideally twice (or twice and a bit!) the length of a standard cylinder would be great. Edited January 4, 2011 by allanp Quote
I Scream Clone Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 Ok people lets cool down a little. We can agree to disagree. Some people remain purists, whilst others wish to try alternative motors/batteries etc. Another thing, could people improve on their typing etc to make it easier for members to understand the discussion. Eurobricks understands that English may not be your primary language, but make an effort on capitilization, spelling etc if possible. Thanks and carry on the interesting discussion. Quote
davidmull Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 I find that being a purist can sometimes help creativity by forcing you to solve a problem using only what Lego provides. I am a 100% purist but then I am so tempted to make some longer pneumatic cylinders and some gearbox parts right now! u really need to let go of pneumatics ha, la,s are the new way forward , pneumatics are only useful on very limited models unless they redesign the whole set up as there just to fast when activated and not consistent at all.I like both.anyway back to topic. Quote
Toastie Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 But this is non lego element, saving space isnt good excuse for using those batteries. Same odd and ugly thing is modyfing original lego pieces, for own purposes. If you are lego builder, build using lego, not lego and other things. This is my opinion. Hi there, I just used backbone's reply for a reply ... Well, I don't get it. There are folks who use 100% original LEGO pieces, there are folks who modify LEGO pieces that are simply not available at time of creation (as for example a 11.X V LiPo) but work perfectly well with existing LEGO stuff, there are folks who just create what they judge as reasonable, there are folks who do what they want - that is all perfect! Hey, it's a free world, join the group that suits your needs most and all will be good. Some thoughts though before I leave ... To my opinion, TLC is sometimes simply bullshitting around with us. Oh, I know, that is almost - if not - blasphemy, but let me explain. The 10V LiPo charger got me all exited. That was bad, and it hurt. That is megablocks. You don't need that thing and the whole story was set-up by TLC to just make BIG money. Very clever indeed. Charging the LiPo works with the cheapest 12 V wall wart you can find - I have done it for one year now - it works perfectly well. So what is this? And then: With every new set a new nifty piece may come along. TLC makes what they need, what they see fit. Why shouldn't the non-purists do that as well? Should they wait until the Justified and Ancient give them another piece they desperately were waiting for but they were afraid that TLC will punish us as unbelievers? I have seen it so many time before; for one of my trains I needed a fractional height offset piece, so I cut one of the snot thingies into half and it worked perfectly well. I felt bad though. Man. It is a toy. A couple of months later that thingy was available in one of the new sets. Hmmm. Sit and wait? I don't know. For me 100% purists are very nice folks and the I-could-not-care-less folks as well. I admire both, particularly when they show off their wonderful creations and share them!!! All the best, and play well, Thorsten Quote
rien Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 Here are Lego Batteries: hahahaha Tears from lauhging m8. Try that in youre pure model. Im a lego builder also a nitro model racher and so i have more hobbys Now im a big fan of construktion machines The model lego come with is verry nice but verry lame because the speed and power. There are models to buy from wedico who also make models from construktion machines from aluminium with real hydraulics cost over 5000 euro Now i have 1 from lego with speed and power for lets say 350 euro? So my point is is that any one thinks the same and would like the 8043 to be more realistic Than i share this possebility. I also dont create my one lego ore something but i think the duscusion of lego non lego is verry usles. 2 reasons alkalines are not from lego aswel and the fact there is no non lego in my model. If you look it like that what is a MOC? my own creation? or is it lego,s creation i'm gonna laugh if lego reads this thiks hmmm more power and make there li-po 11,1 aswel. I do this but i sill have respect for the people who build pure lego i DONT hate that i HATE paying tax Ok people lets cool down a little. We can agree to disagree. Some people remain purists, whilst others wish to try alternative motors/batteries etc. Another thing, could people improve on their typing etc to make it easier for members to understand the discussion. Eurobricks understands that English may not be your primary language, but make an effort on capitilization, spelling etc if possible. Thanks and carry on the interesting discussion. I do my best belive me. Some times i forget the capitals and dots sorry for that also like the title how can i corect the title? thnx rien Quote
I Scream Clone Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I do my best belive me. Some times i forget the capitals and dots sorry for that also like the title how can i corect the title? thnx rien No probs. As for titles of posts, that's a Moderator power only I think. Quote
Tobbe Arnesson Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Yesterday I saw a documentary on Origami that begun with this quote: Much of the beauty that arises in art comes from the struggle an artist wages with his limited medium. - Henri Matisse Thought it could go well in this discussion as well. Quote
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