Hinckley Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I call this MOC Davey's Nightmare, because EB member Davey heard this from me non-stop at Brickworld this year. "Um, Dave, my train won't run." "Um, Dave, can you take a look at my train?" "Um, Dave, my train drove off the end of the table. I don't think it's handling turns well." "Um, Dave, the light is on but the train won't go. It just keeps quitting." "Um, where's Dave? Is that him under the table? No? If you see Dave can you tell him I'm looking for him? There's something wrong with my train." The main problem is that the train is too freakin heavy to run. Well...that and I have a profound misunderstanding of how 9V LEGO trains work. This is coupled with my MOC: Train Passenger Wagon Streamliner Engine (aka "Davey's Nightmare") See the full gallery on BrickZone.net Other images Enjoy and, as always, feel free to leave feedback. Thanks Quote
lightningtiger Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Very nice engine indeed 'Hinckley', very 1930's inspired, art deco and Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers - I like this a lot ! Is it based around any particular engine or is it totally your own train ? Anyway, great work and I'm a conformist! ! Quote
Hinckley Posted November 19, 2010 Author Posted November 19, 2010 Very nice engine indeed 'Hinckley', very 1930's inspired, art deco and Flash Gordon/Buck Rogers - I like this a lot ! Is it based around any particular engine or is it totally your own train ? Anyway, great work and I'm a conformist! ! I based it on a picture. I was looking for it back I can't find it. It was an art deco poster from the 1930's actually. Quote
lightningtiger Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 I based it on a picture. I was looking for it back I can't find it. It was an art deco poster from the 1930's actually. A poster eh ? How about the real deal..... Now how close is this to yours ? Keep on track ! Quote
Hinckley Posted November 19, 2010 Author Posted November 19, 2010 A poster eh ? How about the real deal..... Now how close is this to yours ? Keep on track ! Probably the same train in the poster I used! Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 19, 2010 Posted November 19, 2010 Really slick design Hinck. I think you did a fantastic job at capturing the look of the real deal. This is so "untraditional" in terms of shape/design. I know very little about these 30s "art-deco" type locomotives only seeing them in posters from train magazines. They were certainly slick and slylish, esp. for their day. The train in your picture almost looks like something from an Erector set. In terms of your model, you did an outstanding job on the front-end design - I could see it giving you the most difficulty. Great use of the slopes for the ladders. Nice color scheme, although I recall seeing a similar orange and black locomotive in a picture that looked pretty nice. Your colors resemble the B&W picture that you were trying to capture, and you certainly did a nice job. Do you plan to add a tender and picture the train together with your passenger wagon? Would love to see it. Great job! and it's nice to see you building trains. Quote
Hinckley Posted November 19, 2010 Author Posted November 19, 2010 Here are some pics of the whole train together at Brickworld 2010. There was a front wheel set that had to be removed because it kept "tripping" the train. I really have no clue about how to make a train layout function properly. The best advice Dave could give me was to build a smaller train next year. I would build a tender for this one, but I think it's time to retire it and focus on something more simple in order to learn more about doing this properly. I don't want to drive Dave crazy any more. Although, he never acted like I was driving him crazy. He's a kind and patient man! Quote
peterab Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 (edited) I would build a tender for this one, but I think it's time to retire it and focus on something more simple in order to learn more about doing this properly. I don't want to drive Dave crazy any more. Although, he never acted like I was driving him crazy. He's a kind and patient man! A good place to start is to build the running gear first (that's the motor, wheels and rods in case it's not clear) if you can get that to work correctly you can add the rest in stages and test to make sure you haven't broken anything. It can be very frustrating to get an otherwise complete steam engine to work correctly because you don't really want to change the boiler and other details, but a wheel design change can have a huge impact. Front boggies that can twist too far can get jammed, there are some photos on the Flickr train ideas group I think, pushed with technic parts in a triangle pattern which restrict the movement to an arc which avoids the tripping problem. In your case it appears your boiler sits quite high and I'd guess it was because you were unsure how to sit it lower between the wheels, perhaps because they were still in flux. A lower engine is obviously lighter. You picked a great prototype and your boiler looked good from what I remember (brickzone isn't currently responding here). Some projects just end up as static displays because the kinks can't be worked out, it happens to all of us. Edited November 20, 2010 by peterab Quote
Captain Green Hair Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Making trains run properly is a pain indeed, I still don't master it either. Though I like the smart SNOT works and general look of the engine, I somehow feel it isn't finished yet. The main reason for this is the missing front wheels, there's a big gap there now.. Quote
Duq Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 Getting a train to run properly is a process of trial and error. When I designed my AS-616 in MLCad this is the bogie I came up with: When I tested the train in real life the third axle on the rear bogie kept derailing. There was just too much play in the link. The solution was simple; adding two extra tiles on top of the third axle stopped the derailing. There are a lot of solutions for bogies on steam engines. For some inspiration have a look at the instructions for Ben Beneke's brilliant BR23. They are on Railbricks. Here's a picture of my own solution on my BR65: BR65 Bottom by Duq, on Flickr Quote
Big Cam Posted November 21, 2010 Posted November 21, 2010 I think it looks cool. That was before I saw the poster, it looks really close to that image. I love it in the fabuland setup! Quote
______ Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 I think you just need to add front wheels and a lot more detail on the sides, other than that it is looking great! Quote
Masked Builder Posted November 23, 2010 Posted November 23, 2010 Awesome! I very much like the front bit. Quote
buddy Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 Great train MOC, Hinckley! It looks just like the real thing. I too particularly like the front part. Very well done. ~buddy~ Quote
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