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  1. 1. Head Gear

    • Mandalorian Helmet (Boba Fett)
      100
    • Oversized Fedora (Cad Bane)
      6
  2. 2. Accessories

    • Jet Pack (Boba Fett)
      98
    • Breathing Regulator (Cad Bane)
      8
  3. 3. Weapons

    • EE-3 Carbine Rfle with silencer (Boba Fett)
      70
    • Customized LL-30 twin blaster pistols (Cad Bane)
      36
  4. 4. Uniform

    • Mandalorian Armour (Boba Fett)
      90
    • Nashta-Hide tunic with heavy cloak (Cad Bane)
      16


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Boba was the original Man With No Name. In the OT he was known as just "the bounty hunter". Bane is just a very non-subtle copy of Boba, bleh.

I'm not sure why getting a team to work with is a positive? Boba doesn't need help, he just gets the job done.

Why is sneaking into the temple a positive again? He was used by Sidious...Boba works on his own terms.

Posted

I'm sorry but I have to go with Cad Bane here. (Oh yeah, and I'm not a 9-year old :hmpf:) I'm really going against the huge legion of Boba Fett fans all over the SW universe, but I'm basing my vote from what I saw in the movies/series. The only image that I have with Boba is getting an already Carbonite-frozen Han on the Slave I (not even working his megablocks off to capture him), and his unimpressive duel before his demise on the Sarlacc pit (Lucas only 'tried to save him' to satisfy disappointed Boba fans). That's it, I'm really not impressed with Boba (based on the movies and don't give me crap on the other made-up stories of Boba in the books just to make him look 'cool').

And then we have Cad Bane, who had lots of exposure in the CW series to show his rather impressive tactical and fighting skills. How's this for his resume: Got into the the Senate rather easily, held a group of senators as hostage, managed to hold the Chancellor on the neck, breach inro the Jedi Temple (of all freakin' places) and steal the Holocron, got Vader to open it, and escape two High Council Jedi in Mace(!) and Obi(!) making both of them look silly. So how's that for tactical and fighting skills? Boba, and even Jango, was no way near the abilities shown by Bane in the series.

Lastly, I really don't understand what OT/PT fans have against CW fans. Saying CW fans a bunch of 9-year olds is just plain rude. I am not even 9 (28 to be exact), but I manage to respect all the OT/PT/CW and even the EU for that matter. I am a general SW fan afterall, and I don't limit myself with old OT stuff. I say respect the past, present, and future of what the world of SW will bring to us. Sorry for that small rant, just tired of hearing anti-CW sentiments and finally letting myself heard regarding this matter.

Posted

Of course, Boba ended up winning in every category except for the weapons for me. I do like Boba Fett, but I have to hand to whoever is in charge at the Clone Wars studio, Bane is one hell of a character. Very ruthless and badass, and that fact that these kinds of things are on a children's show is even more surprising. I have yet to see all of Season 2, but from from what I've seen he's a cool character (even if some of the situations, like the Jedi Temple break-in, are unrealistic).

I also quite like the minifig, and I'm hoping that he appears in magnet set so I don't have to fish for him on BL or buy one of the two sets he's in (of which don't interest me).

Posted

I'm sorry but I have to go with Cad Bane here. (Oh yeah, and I'm not a 9-year old :hmpf:) I'm really going against the huge legion of Boba Fett fans all over the SW universe, but I'm basing my vote from what I saw in the movies/series. The only image that I have with Boba is getting an already Carbonite-frozen Han on the Slave I (not even working his megablocks off to capture him), and his unimpressive duel before his demise on the Sarlacc pit (Lucas only 'tried to save him' to satisfy disappointed Boba fans). That's it, I'm really not impressed with Boba (based on the movies and don't give me crap on the other made-up stories of Boba in the books just to make him look 'cool').

And then we have Cad Bane, who had lots of exposure in the CW series to show his rather impressive tactical and fighting skills. How's this for his resume: Got into the the Senate rather easily, held a group of senators as hostage, managed to hold the Chancellor on the neck, breach inro the Jedi Temple (of all freakin' places) and steal the Holocron, got Vader to open it, and escape two High Council Jedi in Mace(!) and Obi(!) making both of them look silly. So how's that for tactical and fighting skills? Boba, and even Jango, was no way near the abilities shown by Bane in the series.

Lastly, I really don't understand what OT/PT fans have against CW fans. Saying CW fans a bunch of 9-year olds is just plain rude. I am not even 9 (28 to be exact), but I manage to respect all the OT/PT/CW and even the EU for that matter. I am a general SW fan afterall, and I don't limit myself with old OT stuff. I say respect the past, present, and future of what the world of SW will bring to us. Sorry for that small rant, just tired of hearing anti-CW sentiments and finally letting myself heard regarding this matter.

We don't disrespect the prequels, I personally really like RotS, (okay, so I like it because it's the death of the PT, but still) it's just that CW doesn't make sense. Even with how irrealistic the miniseries was, CW is still an irrealistic show that has not improved upon it's predecessor. If anything, it's worse because the Seps never win. Cad Bane is the spitting image of kiddie bad guy, with the unoriginal outfit and supposedly super powered weaponry that always fails at the end of a complete plot. I will also take this time to point out that he lost to the Jedi at the beginning of Season 2 when he was capturednand forced to lead them to his hideout.

Posted

Cad bane has had much more screen time than Boba Fett did in the OT so it isn't really fair to compare the two achievemts on screen.

Are you saying I shouldn't vote? :sceptic: 'Cause I can only go by what I know, and I'm sure many others here will too.

But did he have rockets in his shoes? :tongue:

No, but he does have his handy multipurpose Switzer wrist gauntlet, which by the way was completely left out of the poll/first post too.

I'm not sure why getting a team to work with is a positive? Boba doesn't need help, he just gets the job done.

Because with a team you can get things done more efficiently and always have a Plan B.

Why is sneaking into the temple a positive again? He was used by Sidious...Boba works on his own terms.

... for Vader, who serves under Sidious. Your point?

The temple scenario shows that Bane really has skill. It's not easy breaking into a place that's crawling with jedi, steal something, and get out uncaught.

I can see this thread turning into an OT/CW war pretty quickly... I have a bad feeling about this. :look:

Posted

Are you saying I shouldn't vote? :sceptic: 'Cause I can only go by what I know, and I'm sure many others here will too.

No, but he does have his handy multipurpose Switzer wrist gauntlet, which by the way was completely left out of the poll/first post too.

Because with a team you can get things done more efficiently and always have a Plan B.

... for Vader, who serves under Sidious. Your point?

The temple scenario shows that Bane really has skill. It's not easy breaking into a place that's crawling with jedi, steal something, and get out uncaught.

I can see this thread turning into an OT/CW war pretty quickly... I have a bad feeling about this. :look:

technicly he was caught *huh*
Posted

... for Vader, who serves under Sidious. Your point?

The temple scenario shows that Bane really has skill. It's not easy breaking into a place that's crawling with jedi, steal something, and get out uncaught.

I can see this thread turning into an OT/CW war pretty quickly... I have a bad feeling about this. :look:

Getting help from Palpatine doesn't count as having skill. Just because Boba happens to only work for Vader during the movies doesn't mean he always serves under him. If they decided to make ESB about Boba working on his own for no one, it'd have nothing to do with the main plot.

Posted

technicly he was caught *huh*

And then made the silly hell out of two High ranking Jedi in Mace and Obi when he easily escaped from both, which can be attributed to his uncanny deceptive 'skill'. Can you say that about Boba?

Posted

And then made the silly hell out of two High ranking Jedi in Mace and Obi when he easily escaped from both, which can be attributed to his uncanny deceptive 'skill'. Can you say that about Boba?

Boba fought a lightsaber duel against Darth Vader and it ended in a tie and a partnership when Boba outsmarted Vader.

Posted

We don't disrespect the prequels, I personally really like RotS, (okay, so I like it because it's the death of the PT, but still) it's just that CW doesn't make sense. Even with how irrealistic the miniseries was, CW is still an irrealistic show that has not improved upon it's predecessor. If anything, it's worse because the Seps never win. Cad Bane is the spitting image of kiddie bad guy, with the unoriginal outfit and supposedly super powered weaponry that always fails at the end of a complete plot. I will also take this time to point out that he lost to the Jedi at the beginning of Season 2 when he was capturednand forced to lead them to his hideout.

Unrealistic maybe, but what is realistic in a fictional setting anyway? It's how they presented both Bounty Hunters that should be the basis of comparing them. I know it's not Boba's fault that his exposure in the movies are a bit lame, but most Boba fans are just basing their votes on the 'mystique' of the character and not on the actual skill shown in the movies. On the other hand, Cad Bane, did have the unfair advantage of having more exposure, and how the CW team depicted him is really a badass, cold-blooded, tactical, and skillful bounty hunter and no one could ever deny that. There is a factual basis why I vote for Bane and not just like the Boba fans that vote just because Boba is 'popular' and 'cool'. It's like front only without any substance. Sorry for the strong words, but I have yet to read a strong argument that'll convince me that Boba is better than Bane.

Boba fought a lightsaber duel against Darth Vader and it ended in a tie and a partnership when Boba outsmarted Vader.

Which most fans don't know and therefore lessens how other fans perceive Boba. If I had seen that in a movie or something I would have been convinced. Come to think of it, if he was that good how come his representation in RoTJ is so lame that he even can't beat an unexperienced jedi in Luke?

Posted

Unrealistic maybe, but what is realistic in a fictional setting anyway? It's how they presented both Bounty Hunters that should be the basis of comparing them. I know it's not Boba's fault that his exposure in the movies are a bit lame, but most Boba fans are just basing their votes on the 'mystique' of the character and not on the actual skill shown in the movies. On the other hand, Cad Bane, did have the unfair advantage of having more exposure, and how the CW team depicted him is really a badass, cold-blooded, tactical, and skillful bounty hunter and no one could ever deny that. There is a factual basis why I vote for Bane and not just like the Boba fans that vote just because Boba is 'popular' and 'cool'. It's like front only without any substance. Sorry for the strong words, but I have yet to read a strong argument that'll convince me that Boba is better than Bane.

Then I guess I'm not most people. I too base my vote on facts, and Boba Fett is not just popular and cool (which he is:tongue:) but he's also well-equipped and well-trained for the task. One does not strafe a Jedi at age ten, outsmart the Chosen One, or torture Kaminoans without conciderable skill. Just because most of his big exploits are recorded in books and comics doesn't make them inferior to those of others seen in TV shows. The fact alone that Boba has a set of Wookiee pelts draped over his shoulder demonstrates his prowess. He is also capable of breaking into secure facilities, as computer slicing equipment is listed in his arsenal. He also singlehandedly defeated two of the IG-88 assassin droids and assassinated the Mandalore before becoming the Mandalore himself. Maybe the whole Mandalorian thing has been tainted recently by the CW show, but the fact remains that they are a people to be feared. They were professional soldiers who held their own against both Jedi and Sith in multiple wars.

Which most fans don't know and therefore lessens how other fans perceive Boba. If I had seen that in a movie or something I would have been convinced. Come to think of it, if he was that good how come his representation in RoTJ is so lame that he even can't beat an unexperienced jedi in Luke?

Because it fit into the plot. The same way that Bane has been made to be what he is for the purpose of furthering the CW plot, in which he actually never wins in the long run. Like fallenangel says, SW is full of retcons. Boba just started out as unable to defeat Luke because it fit into the plot. Besides, as has been mentioned, Boba had a clear shot at Luke, were it not for the lucky strike of Han's.

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Then I guess I'm not most people. I too base my vote on facts, and Boba Fett is not just popular and cool (which he is:tongue:) but he's also well-equipped and well-trained for the task. One does not strafe a Jedi at age ten, outsmart the Chosen One, or torture Kaminoans without conciderable skill. Just because most of his big exploits are recorded in books and comics doesn't make them inferior to those of others seen in TV shows. The fact alone that Boba has a set of Wookiee pelts draped over his shoulder demonstrates his prowess. He is also capable of breaking into secure facilities, as computer slicing equipment is listed in his arsenal. He also singlehandedly defeated two of the IG-88 assassin droids and assassinated the Mandalore before becoming the Mandalore himself. Maybe the whole Mandalorian thing has been tainted recently by the CW show, but the fact remains that they are a people to be feared. They were professional soldiers who held their own against both Jedi and Sith in multiple wars.

I know you're not one of those Boba fans, you have shown you can defend your pick with sensible arguments (unlike others). His skills seem really impressive, and good for you you know your bounty hunter. I just hope ordinary fans like me would have known those feats on a mainstream level. But I just can't help but think these stories were just made to substantiate the mystique of Boba (who was unexpectedly popular even Lucas didn't expect the huge fandom/following). Still, it does not take away the fact that Boba is a great bounty hunter and the same way Bane is also.

Posted

I know you're not one of those Boba fans, you have shown you can defend your pick with sensible arguments (unlike others). His skills seem really impressive, and good for you you know your bounty hunter. I just hope ordinary fans like me would have known those feats on a mainstream level. But I just can't help but think these stories were just made to substantiate the mystique of Boba (who was unexpectedly popular even Lucas didn't expect the huge fandom/following). Still, it does not take away the fact that Boba is a great bounty hunter and the same way Bane is also.

Good. There's notjing worse than fans who can't defend their arguments. Personally, I think Boba was the perfect character to base an immense, intimidating backstory on, just because of the mystique and lack of knowledge of him. There's no reason not to once the SW novels became so popular. I've actually got a copy of the Collector's Guide to ESB from 1980, and the bio on Boba already mentions him as a mysterious, notorious bounty hunter.

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Good. There's notjing worse than fans who can't defend their arguments. Personally, I think Boba was the perfect character to base an immense, intimidating backstory on, just because of the mystique and lack of knowledge of him. There's no reason not to once the SW novels became so popular. I've actually got a copy of the Collector's Guide to ESB from 1980, and the bio on Boba already mentions him as a mysterious, notorious bounty hunter.

Yeah I think I should read more about Boba and give him a chance. :grin: The fact is both bounty hunters are great and it's really difficult comparing them since they are from different eras and took different paths towards being the best bounty hunter during their times. It's just like comparing the greatness of Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain or Lebron James vs. Kobe Bryant (in basketball), all players are great in their own way andnobody can take away their greatness. Well, it was a good exchange of views Doc, you have defended Boba very well and I hope I did also for Bane, I did this to speak on behalf of the "9-year-old" kids and other CW fans as well. (and please, not all CW fans are kids, kids-at-heart definitely!) :classic:

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Yeah I think I should read more about Boba and give him a chance. :grin: The fact is both bounty hunters are great and it's really difficult comparing them since they are from different eras and took different paths towards being the best bounty hunter during their times. It's just like comparing the greatness of Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain or Lebron James vs. Kobe Bryant (in basketball), all players are great in their own way andnobody can take away their greatness. Well, it was a good exchange of views Doc, you have defended Boba very well and I hope I did also for Bane, I did this to speak on behalf of the "9-year-old" kids and other CW fans as well. (and please, not all CW fans are kids, kids-at-heart definitely!) :classic:

You did defend Bane well- considering the fact that he's an irrealistic CW character. :wink:

Posted

Guys just to let you know George Lucas decides what to do and what characters are like so if he wanted Boba to be a scared kid in CW it was him who made Boba that and if he wanted a loveable villain in Cad Bane it was his choice so only George Lucase's opinion on who is better matters :laugh:

Posted

BOBA! In every category! Does anything else really need to be said. He is SICK!

You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him!

My thoughts exactly.

It's a great poll idea but the results are a given.

Posted

No, but he does have his handy multipurpose Switzer wrist gauntlet, which by the way was completely left out of the poll/first post too.

Because it's not really that important to debate about, Boba has one as well so the argument boils down to 'Which has the best wrist gauntlet? Boba Fett's one or Cad Bane's slightly different wrist gauntlet.'

Boba would win that battle anyway. His wrist thingy has a flame thrower in it :tongue:

Posted

By the way, you forgot to mention that Bane has jet-boots, so he has flight capability too. I think this should be included under Question 2.

I decided to just use what was visible on their lego counterparts or else I'd have an endless amount of weapons and gadgets and the poll only allows you to have 5 questions.

I'm glad to see that Cad is getting a half decent amount of votes. Good to see that this debate is really picking up.

Posted

Boba Fett cried on film. Did Bane do that? default_sadnew.gif

...Boba cried? When?

IMO, this isn't a Cloney/ PT vs OT battle. I love all three, and I think they're all great. Like I said earlier, it comes down down to the directing and acting. Boba said next to nothing in the originaly movies, but what he did say and do was instantly memorable. If you look at all his little nuances in the movies, he is incredible. He gave off an air of secrecy and an interest. No one knew who he was or who his past was. PT doesn't really disturb that- he's still a cool figure. Bane? Bane is set up as someone with a huge fedora that single-handedly comes in and takes over something. That is just too cliche for me. Also, let's look at the reputation. Bane was the deadliest hunte rin his time... but not untill Jango- the 'father' of Boba- was killed. He had to wait for his reputation. Boba, on the other hand, took it- no waiting invovled. He rose to the occasion.

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