CMP Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 I want to hear from Valerie before I vote. I'll remove my vote if she gives a valid explanation.
Lord Arjay Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 Time to explain! Yay! First my reasoning for the Sheila vote. During day 4 I was told this by someone who I trusted after revealing I was in contact with an innocent poisoner: If this is true, I know who they should kill: Matn. I have nearly perfect evidence proving them to be Death's Hallowed and if it happens, that would prove both their loyalty and yours. If it doesn't get done this way, I don't know how we'll do it by vote since the information comes from a source that must be protected. As I said, I trusted them. I also knew that if they were being truthful about their action then they would have the means to gather this near-perfect evidence. It would have been foolish for him/her to stick out their neck without reasoning. So I sent this to the poisoner: If you haven't got in your action yet, I'd suggest poisoning Matn. They did not follow my advice and the next morning Madame Kingston had been poisoned. Naturally I assumed it was caused by my contact. However I now know this not true. There are two poisoners! Anyway, dissapointed I thought about how to get Sheila voted off. In the end I decided to say it was because she blocked me with malicious intents (I might add, that I still believed anyone appearing in the foe glass was evil) and that she had been suspicious during the day (Her defence of Nene seemed as though she knew that Nene was not hallowed) Now, that is exactly what Madame Kingston had against Bulltoad. There was also the fact that another who blocked me did not appear in my foe glass whereas Sheila did. I felt it strange that Sheila not directly attacked anyone. She has not even voted. Could this be because she wanted to go un noticed. During every arguement she has stayed on the middle ground. Not really leaning to one side at all. Anyway, these are my mane reasons. I should include that after day 5's end I contacted Madame Kingston with my true reasoning to which she replied: If you had shared more of that then Matn would have been gone today. She agreed with me, the plan being that since I had given her everything she could lead the attack as she was more trusted than I. Of course it did not go that way as Madame Kingston is dead. I must admit I am very annoyed that this near-perfect evidence has not turned up. The one who informed me has had ample oppertunity to do so and refuses. Therefore I am having my doubts about whether I am correct about Sheila and have not voted. That and Miss Chings new revelation. I would like to hear Valerie out first. Simply because Miss Ching is not in possesion of a foe glass and if I am correct in my thinking, then the person who turned me on Sheila and the one who gave Miss Ching that info are the same. Now then, a few more points. I’ve lost all trust in Jolie Jadis. She has been making up arguments throughout the entire week. - During day 2 she was the first to suspect Angela, this I can’t blame her for, because Angela was acting pretty shady. Angela was innocent. - During day 3 she says she is stupefied, as was Loki. I don’t believe this. I think everyone has their own spell they can use. I think she made it up to provide herself with an alibi. She wanted us to vote for Harriet, because she was quiet and wasn’t contributing that much. Harriet was innocent. - During day 4 she was the first to bring up Bulltoad, then she started suspecting Nene. Nene told us that Jolie steals stuff. Then Jolie keeps giving us arguments to vote of Nene, she convinced us, we voted of Nene. Nene was impartial. But that doesn’t mean she was a bad guy! Later on she told us she wanted to vote of Nene out of self protection. - During day 5 she needed Felix Fortunatis to stay alive. She suspects Sheila, I did too in the past but now I am ALMOST sure of her innocence. Jolie has been lying and making up arguments throughout the entire week. She has often been one of the first persons to suspect someone. Most of the time it lead to nothing at all. By doing so you’ve made yourself suspicious in my eyes. Excuse me? None of my arguements were made up, they were all true! -Angela was acting suspicious to me and several others. I was not the first to suspect her no, I was the first to put my suspicions clearly. If you remember I asked her many times to explain herself, mainly about the camera. Each answer though got more and more crazy thus I voted for her. She was also our best lead. This you can't fault me for. -I presented my thoughts on Harriet as it was clear that no others would come forward with anything. She was innocent in the end and I did go after her. But Madame Kingston went after Bulltoad and he turned out innocent! I doubt you'd use that against her. Finally you voted also if I remember correctly: vote: Harriet Pewter/YG-49 -I realised I was in danger with Nene. However, I had already stated my suspicions to Rocky before I knew she had found me out. All of my evidence against her was valid and true. The only thing that changed was that I was a little more insistant than I would be if I was not in danger. As I suspected my suspicions were correct. She was impartial, how was I to know that she would be impartial? I made the mistake of assuming that Brandon was the only one, however the fact remains that this has been our only succesful conviction. If it were not for me Bulltoad would have been voted out. Do you think I would have admitted the revenge thing if I was hallowed? No, I would have kept it secret and made my position stronger. Looking back, I should've realised the hallowed would use that against me. -Eh? Loki has admitted that he gave me the potion because of my attack on Nene. I also feared for my life (I still believed Nene to be hallowed) and went in search of a magic mmirror that would kill halllowed. I did not find it hence my "I have exposed a liar" remark. However after talking it over I believe that another theif beat me to it. My reasons for voting Sheila can be found above. Help us!? So far, from what I have seen, she has blatantly lied and deceived us, with the express motive of using us to remove Nene for her own gain; to protect herself from a crime which in my opinion Nene was quite rightly justified in wanting revenge for. While Nene wasn't necessarily working with the town, she wasn't necessarily working against us; in fact I have seen no evidence so far to suggest that she was working against us, other than the word of Ms. Jadis. Jolie is a self-proclaimed thief, and nothing she has said so far has led to the conviction of a Hallowed, or anywhere close for that matter. So no, I must disagree that she is the only one who has "helped" us, she has done nothing of the sort in my opinion. Sorry to be so blunt, but I myself have simply seen no evidence or anything from Jolie herself that would make me believe she is innocently aligned with the rest of us, thus I certainly have no inclination to follow any of her quite forceful assertions, and in this situation I feel confident in supporting Sheila, as I can't see anything that she has done wrong. Rather I am far more suspicious of what Jolie's true motives are behind trying to get rid of Ms. Bones. Believe as you wish. The fact is no one else has openly accused people as much as me, in reality Madame Kingston was the only other and she was wrong whereas I was not. I lead to the one succesful conviction. I see no-one else doing anything to help. I know that Sheila can use a charm I would never associate with dark arts. If I'm not mistaken, she has been protecting people since day one. Yes, I blocked you, but you said you were attacked by more people that night because you had talked to much and were acting suspicious (how many times do I have to repeat myself?). If something happened to miss Ching, I can't be the cause of that and Desiree Jackson can confirm that. Wrong! Sheila has admitted blocking me. Now, can you back her up by revealing that last night she stupified you? Make no mistake Desiree, I think that you are innocent and trust you. Why not reveal who this mistery person is you were acting for? I have revealed that to the one person I know that I can trust, however due to the non-appearance of the near-perfect evidence I doubt they would support me. Or if they are being truthful then it is certain that they would be at danger. I also hope that someone can come out and back Jolie's story up. If there's someone who can honestly say he or she trusts Jolie, and has evidence to back her story up, I would be willing to trust her. That's what I look for. Let's see who can help: -Trusted informant. Unlikely as they have not done so far. -Madame Kingston. Dead, though it should be noted that she clearly trusted me. -The poisoner. They could, I shall make a plea here. If you reveal yourself then surely some innocent who cann protect will make sure no harm comes to you. Of course, I understand if you choose not to. -Living investigator. Last resort and should not reveal themselves. -Loki Malfoy. Already confirmed it was he who gave me the luck potion. -Rocky Bromwell. Can confirm that I had already told him I suspected Nene during day 3. Before my life was in danger. -Crudo Alakhazam. He appeared in my foe glass last night hence he cannot be the killer. Has already sort of confirmed. -Rhubarb Uxley. Same as Crudo, except on night 4. More explaining to come I promise. I will admit that I was the one who gave Jolie the Felix Felicis. I planned on giving it to Jolie because I thought she needed protection after she got everyone to vote off Nene, who appeared to me to be a Hallowed. After it was revealed that she was an impartial, I doubted giving the potion to Jolie, but it was already too late. As for Valerie, I would like her to give an explanation before making a decision to vote or not. I would advise that everyone else who is keen on voting to wait, too, or else she will get sent away without any say in the accusation. As with Madam Kingston, I have full trust in Professor Ching, but I don't want to jump on voting so quickly.
Eskallon Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 Vote:Sheila Bones/Matn I trust you Jolie and you provide good points which point to Sheila being Hallowed.
Professor Flitwick Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 I'm going to sustain from voting until either candidates can provide alibis. -Crudo Alakhazam. He appeared in my foe glass last night hence he cannot be the killer. Has already sort of confirmed. -Rhubarb Uxley. Same as Crudo, except on night 4. Firstly, thank you for revealing to us all you know. Trust helps in these situations. Secondly, if Crudo and Rhubarb appeared in your Foeglass, that means they targeted you with malicious intent, does it not? They may not be the killers, but they could be members of the Hallowed if they can if they did.
badboytje88 Posted August 1, 2010 Posted August 1, 2010 I want to hear from Valerie before I vote. If she has something decent to say I will change my vote. I'm not keen on voting, I am just trying to let Valerie know that I take this accusation very serious. Wrong! Sheila has admitted blocking me. Now, can you back her up by revealing that last night she stupified you? Make no mistake Desiree, I think that you are innocent and trust you. Well blocking never was a crime... I should know! I didn't say that she stupified me. Last night I tried to petrify her, because I trusted you. She told me she protected herself, this is the reason my spell didn't work, and that she had been protecting people throughout the entire game. I trust her on her word for that.
WhiteFang Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I am really confused at this stage right now, but I will really like to hear what the both of them could have to add since there are a few among us whom believed in Jolie Jadis. There are too many speculations around and I hope we can nail the right one this time with much solid concrete evidence.
Inconspicuous Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Oh, damn. Things went terribly wrong last night. Not only two deaths, but some weird happenings on my end too. With several votes cast against me, and possibly more on the way, I guess I have no way out other than to explain everything about myself. I really don't want to do this, but I guess I'm left no choice at this stage. As far as I know, my night action is the ability to protect. I'd done this with no issues the last few nights. However, I knew someone was going to block Ms. Ching from investigating last night, since her action was revealed, so I decided to step in. I cast the spell 'Protego' on her, thinking I was doing good. However, she ended up blocked somehow. Ms. Ching, would you care to explain exactly how you found this out? For if it was me who truly blocked you, I fear that I'm a Paranoid Protector (I block my target in addition to protecting them). If that's the case, I need to be more careful about my targets. You have every reason to have your votes now, but I hope you can trust me on this. I'm just a simple innocent that tried to do something important and made things worse. I hope you can forgive me. However, Miss Desiree Jackson seems to suspect that Sheila Bones is also a protector. Although it's not too far-fetched to have two slightly different protectors in this crazy game of life, I find that slightly suspicious. Going along with some of the previous suspicions about her, I will vote: Sheila Bones / Matn. I'm not so sure about you. Oh, one last thing. Miss Jolie Jadis, would you care to explain your little fake vote-controlling scheme? I've wanted an explanation to back up your see-through lie.
Dragonator Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Ok, I've just about had it up to here with all this crap, and that's saying something for a short little house elf like me! Jolie, you may say a lot, but when I actually look at everything you've just said to us, I don't really see much in it that could possibly help us or explain your previous actions. Believe as you wish. The fact is no one else has openly accused people as much as me, in reality Madame Kingston was the only other and she was wrong whereas I was not. I lead to the one succesful conviction. I see no-one else doing anything to help. Successful!? Do you not listen, or do you just talk so much that nothing goes in? The fact is, while Nene may have been impartial, that doesn't necessarily mean she was against us, and from what I have seen, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that she was. For all we know, she may have been able to help us in some way. But aside from this, the fact remains that you purposefully lied to us and manipulated us to vote her off for your own gains, and I am thus highly skeptical in believing anything you say now because of it, as I have this feeling that you're trying to use us again. Something does not add up with you Jolie, and I am very much doubting that you are the innocent student you claim to be. The lies have to stop somewhere, my dear. With everything you've just said, you still failed to actually say a single thing that could possibly convince me that you have our best intentions at heart. You hide behind your "informer", who seems to me to just be another lame excuse to brush off your self-serving actions. Why do you trust this informer, might I ask? From what I can see, this "informer" sent you out to convict Sheila with the only stated reason being that he/she has "near-perfect evidence" proving that she is Hallowed. I find it highly interesting that the actual content of this information isn't stated, rather it is just a hollow and meaningless statement. I now see that the "evidence" you had against Sheila isn't as strong as it was before, is it, now that you've met a little opposition to your views? Interesting, very interesting indeed. I also find it astounding that despite your obvious lack of regard for the lives of the innocent and your reckless lying and twisting of the truth, there are still some people here who profess to trust you completely. I personally cannot understand how they can possibly know for sure that you are on their side unless you're Hallowed and these people are also your Hallowed followers, however I suppose some people can be easily taken in by shallow and empty words. Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it is time we made a stand and stopped listening to this blathering woman. She has no real evidence against Sheila, just as she didn't really have any real evidence against Nene either. Jolie has lied, she has tried to bully us into conforming with her votes by verbally abusing us for being "idiots", and frankly, what she says just sounds hollow and false to my ear. I think that, in light of the situation, I should also mention that I spotted Jolie leaving my rooms last night, where from the mess I came to the conclusion that she was trying to steal something from me. Unluckily for her, I don't have anything that can be stolen, however the attempted theft did nothing to make her seem any more innocent in my eyes. As Jolie has been unable to provide even one shred of evidence as to why I should believe her to be innocent, combined with her past misdeeds and my belief that she is trying to use us again, I have decided that it is time that I, the lowly house elf, took a stand for us innocents and began the voting for someone I believe to be Hallowed. Thus I shall Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). This woman has used us for her own ends once, but by the gods I won't let her do it again! While I feel that this is the right choice for today, we must also keep an eye out for the killer on the faculty. These Hallowed are working together remember, people, they're bound to give each other away at some point.
badboytje88 Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 vote: Sheila Bones / Matn. I'm not so sure about you. I don't know who to vote for. I suspected Sheila before, but she nearly convinced me that she is innocent. If your story is true that would mean your innocent too. Somehow I still have the feeling that one of you two is a Hallowed. But for now: unvote:Valerie McArthur,Inconspicuous Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it is time we made a stand and stopped listening to this blathering woman. Thus I shall Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). This woman has used us for her own ends once, but by the gods I won't let her do it again! I was planning on voting of Jolie during the night she drank Felix Fortunatis. Although I still suspect some other players, to me Jolie has noting more to contribute to this company. She might be an innocent, which at this point I highly doubt.
iamded Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 -Miss Ching, were you stupified? If so I presume Sheila the cause, if not then I believe you on Valerie. My wand was flicked off my hand somehow. I may be wrong, but that seems to be the work of Expelliarmus, no? But now Valerie has explained herself. So... I suppose it'd be good if you didn't "protect" me anymore... I hope we have a regular protector out there somewhere... Hmm. What else. Oh yes! I do strongly believe there are two poisoners about. I know Sicilia Bathory healed Ms Kingston, and didn't poison her. So yeah. I sure wish I could investigate someone unhindered tonight. Four investigations so far, and only one of them worked...
badboytje88 Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). I forgot to vote in my previous post :p
Lord Arjay Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Successful!? Do you not listen, or do you just talk so much that nothing goes in? The fact is, while Nene may have been impartial, that doesn't necessarily mean she was against us, and from what I have seen, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that she was. For all we know, she may have been able to help us in some way. In my view an impartial is better than an innocent any day. Everything against her was true, I made the mistake of revealing the truth and am now paying for it. How could I have known that she was impartial?! You are disregarding everything I have said in order to get your point across. My arguements against her both applied to hallowed and impartial, I did not think there would be another impartial so I assumed she was hallowed. Also, there was nothing to suggest that she was helping us either. But aside from this, the fact remains that you purposefully lied to us and manipulated us to vote her off for your own gains, and I am thus highly skeptical in believing anything you say now because of it, as I have this feeling that you're trying to use us again. Something does not add up with you Jolie, and I am very much doubting that you are the innocent student you claim to be. The lies have to stop somewhere, my dear. With everything you've just said, you still failed to actually say a single thing that could possibly convince me that you have our best intentions at heart. How many times must that you repeat that? How did I manipulate? Regardless of whether I was in danger or not I would still have gone after her. You include remarks that do nothing just so your arguement can seem more formiddable. I see nothing at all that points to your innocence, does anyone else? No, he hiding behind words in the hopes that others will not actuaaly look at what he is saying. You hide behind your "informer", who seems to me to just be another lame excuse to brush off your self-serving actions. Why do you trust this informer, might I ask? From what I can see, this "informer" sent you out to convict Sheila with the only stated reason being that he/she has "near-perfect evidence" proving that she is Hallowed. I find it highly interesting that the actual content of this information isn't stated, rather it is just a hollow and meaningless statement. I now see that the "evidence" you had against Sheila isn't as strong as it was before, is it, now that you've met a little opposition to your views? Interesting, very interesting indeed. I also find it astounding that despite your obvious lack of regard for the lives of the innocent and your reckless lying and twisting of the truth, there are still some people here who profess to trust you completely. I personally cannot understand how they can possibly know for sure that you are on their side unless you're Hallowed and these people are also your Hallowed followers, however I suppose some people can be easily taken in by shallow and empty words. Are you now imagining things to aid your attack? I am not voting for Sheila as I have yet to see this near-perfect evidence! You'll notice I said I am having doubts on whether I was correct or not. Of course this doesn't matter to you, you seem eager to divert attention from Valerie and Sheila. Perhaps one of them is hallowed and you want to cover them? Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it is time we made a stand and stopped listening to this blathering woman. She has no real evidence against Sheila, just as she didn't really have any real evidence against Nene either. Jolie has lied, she has tried to bully us into conforming with her votes by verbally abusing us for being "idiots", and frankly, what she says just sounds hollow and false to my ear. I think that, in light of the situation, I should also mention that I spotted Jolie leaving my rooms last night, where from the mess I came to the conclusion that she was trying to steal something from me. Unluckily for her, I don't have anything that can be stolen, however the attempted theft did nothing to make her seem any more innocent in my eyes. megablocks! You are now lying to aid your attack, I did not attempt to steal from you I was in fact blocked. You are not in possesion of a foe glass so are lying to aid your cause. Answer me this, did I once lie in voting off Nene? No, I witheld some of the truth (as otherwise you would not have listened to my arguements) and admitted it after. Unfortunetly I did not realise how easily the hallowed would use that against me. You are being hypocritical and are lying in your accusation. However, I do not wish to throw another spanner in the works, tonight I suggest you be blocked. I still feel we should focus on Sheila and Valerie for today, one of them is hallowed but I must admit I believe Valerie more. Oh and that voting thing. It's quite simple, I placed my vote with someone I trusted. Only the hallowed would know that I was lying and I hoped they would call me out on it. This did not happen so I dropped it. It was never my intention to frame you, you'll see that I always placed my own reasons for voting someone so framing was not an option. I have cotacted my informant and shall not be voting until I hear from them, but Desiree please would you unvote me? Or at least listen to my defence.
iamded Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I should mention that Jolie Jadis is the only person I've successfully investigated, and she's helped me quite a lot. I don't think voting her off is the best idea when it doesn't get rid of a Hallowed. We know she's not a Death's Hallowed, so it's a wasted effort.
badboytje88 Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Unote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). I'm unvoting Jolie, NOT because I trust her, but because I trust Madam Ching... I don't know who to vote for now...
Dragonator Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 In my view an impartial is better than an innocent any day. I certainly agree with this sentiment, as always in these games an impartial will try and play both sides against each other to try and win. This is true. However you don't appear to be getting my point. There was no way for you to know she was impartial, which was why, according to my theory, you would be so eager to vote her off as you would have assumed she was just another innocent, going off my theory that you are Hallowed. Think about this for a moment people, going on my theory. With Jolie being Hallowed, when she found out Nene was a threat to her she knew she should take her out immediately. As a Hallowed, she has no reason to be careful in her accusations as an innocent must, as we are trying to make sure we don't vote off other innocents as we don't know who we all are. No, as she is Hallowed, she was able to accuse Nene and ensure her destruction with no hesitations like a real innocent would have in the face of voting off someone on such thin evidence. And what a bonus it must have been for Jolie when Nene was declared impartial! Immediately she has a point of leverage over us all, which we have seen her using time and time again over the last 2 days. Supposedly since Nene was impartial, this means we have to trust Jolie's judgment completely, for she is "the only one who has made any progress", accordingly. Well I'm sorry, but this convenient point doesn't hold anything for me when put into context with everything else you've been doing. I believe Jolie is exploiting her good luck in leading the vote of an impartial rather than an innocent to try and pull the wool over our eyes on this, the deciding day for us. If an innocent is voted out today, then we are certainly almost beaten, just looking at the numbers of us that are left. We cannot let this happen, people. Everything against her was true, I made the mistake of revealing the truth and am now paying for it. On the contrary, everything said against Nene was an excuse, a twisting of circumstantial evidence to try and cover for your true motives. You are correct in your second statement though; by trying to show your innocent intentions yesterday by revealing "the truth", you made a mistake many overly arrogant antagonists make - you gave yourself away. And now you are most certainly paying for it, for now you have someone who is ready to challenge your claims of innocence, and you simply don't have anything of any value to defend yourself with whatsoever. I bet you've been laughing at us for the whole of this week, Jolie, well we'll see who is laughing at the end of this day, I can tell you that! Are you now imagining things to aid your attack? I am not voting for Sheila as I have yet to see this near-perfect evidence! You'll notice I said I am having doubts on whether I was correct or not. Interesting how your opinion changes as soon as someone contradicts your assertions. But what was it you said right at the beginning of the day again? Oh, that's right... I don't have much time for a long speech. YOU IDIOTS!! I HAD MORE AGAINST SHEILA THAN BULLTOAD!! I will explain a lot in full later but today please follow my advice and vote out Sheila! The female canine must leave! You did not change your story until after you were pushed to reveal your real motives for wanting to vote off Sheila, and after Sheila had defended herself. Nobody wanted to buy your thin "accusations" yesterday, and obviously from the response today you appear now to have decided to drop them. You may have had the support of several people when voting off Nene, but now many of us can see you for what you really are, a lair and a manipulator, and we aren't going to stand for it. For all I know, Sheila may well be hallowed, but I suspect you right now far more than I suspect her. Today could be our last chance to save ourselves from the Hallowed, people, and I am determined to make sure we get the right person! megablocks! You are now lying to aid your attack, I did not attempt to steal from you I was in fact blocked. Oh, so I'm the one lying now, am I? And you dare to call me a hypocrite? You're playing a strange game Jolie, but I swear, I intend to get to the bottom of it. My room was a tip last night, and the implied reason provided to me was that you were there trying to find something. I don't know what you were looking for, but I certainly don't have it, I can tell you that. I may not have a spyglass, but I can assure you, madame, that my elven "perception" doesn't let me down; I know you were there. The lies are just getting bigger and bigger now, aren't they? I'd like to draw some attention back to some dialogue from day 4: Didn't Jolie steal it? That's one of her actions. It is one of my actions. So don't try and tell me you weren't in my rooms last night, I know you were, and you know you were, Jolie. It would appear that 'once a lair, always a lair' is proving to be true. No, I witheld some of the truth I don't know what your definition of lying is Jolie, but "withholding the truth" for your own gains certainly sounds like a euphemism for it to me. Still trying to twist people's words to suit yourself I see... However, I do not wish to throw another spanner in the works, tonight I suggest you be blocked. If you want to have me blocked I really don't mind, my night actions aren't ones that affect anyone other than myself anyway. But sure, if it would make you feel better that the first person to challenge you be silenced quickly, then by all means, get one of your Hallowed cohorts to block me, I'm not afraid of you lot. I should mention that Jolie Jadis is the only person I've successfully investigated, and she's helped me quite a lot. I don't think voting her off is the best idea when it doesn't get rid of a Hallowed. We know she's not a Death's Hallowed, so it's a wasted effort. Are you saying that you've investigated Jolie and found her to be innocent? If that's the case, then I will consider dropping my accusations against Jolie, but I do think that for an innocent, she is acting very, very suspiciously, and the evidence I have against her certainly doesn't point that way. I would also like to point out that investigation results are never 100% accurate either, as there are people such as Godfathers and Serial Killers, for example, who can appear other than what they really are upon investigation, and there's always the chance of a spell which could manipulate what you see in your divination, although without knowing the details of your result we have no way of knowing if these points apply to this situation or not. Please clarify this matter for me, and maybe we'll make some proper headway, as I am still convinced of Jolie's guilt. I trust you, Mrs. Ching, but I'm sorry to say I don't trust Ms. Jadis.
Professor Flitwick Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I certainly agree with this sentiment, as always in these games an impartial will try and play both sides against each other to try and win. This is true. However you don't appear to be getting my point. There was no way for you to know she was impartial, which was why, according to my theory, you would be so eager to vote her off as you would have assumed she was just another innocent, going off my theory that you are Hallowed. Think about this for a moment people, going on my theory. With Jolie being Hallowed, when she found out Nene was a threat to her she knew she should take her out immediately. As a Hallowed, she has no reason to be careful in her accusations as an innocent must, as we are trying to make sure we don't vote off other innocents as we don't know who we all are. No, as she is Hallowed, she was able to accuse Nene and ensure her destruction with no hesitations like a real innocent would have in the face of voting off someone on such thin evidence. And what a bonus it must have been for Jolie when Nene was declared impartial! Immediately she has a point of leverage over us all, which we have seen her using time and time again over the last 2 days. Supposedly since Nene was impartial, this means we have to trust Jolie's judgment completely, for she is "the only one who has made any progress", accordingly. Well I'm sorry, but this convenient point doesn't hold anything for me when put into context with everything else you've been doing. I believe Jolie is exploiting her good luck in leading the vote of an impartial rather than an innocent to try and pull the wool over our eyes on this, the deciding day for us. If an innocent is voted out today, then we are certainly almost beaten, just looking at the numbers of us that are left. We cannot let this happen, people. Yes, but if she were Hallowed, she would of told the teacher with the killing N/A to kill Nene right of the bat. She wouldn't waste time voting her of.
Lord Arjay Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I am not lying. In truth last night I attempted to retrieve the antidote from the poisoner. You see, I believed that there was only one poisoner, another assumption I made. Truth is, there is every chance I was in your room last night but I can assure you it was not of my own free will. I have no idea what happened only that Crudo Alakhazam did something to me, causing me to fail to not even get to my intended target. Then, well I do not know, I can not remember anything else. Perhaps you are correct that I was in your room, I assumed I was simply blocked but now I am not so sure. I changed my mind about Sheila because I realised that I was only after her because of someone I trusted, that person has yet to bring up thier evidence so I now am having doubts.Finally, I had already told someone of my real reasons for the Sheila vote, so no I did not change my story.
Big Cam Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I would love to have a more solid lead on one of the staff members, but non of them look suspicious in my eyes... I'd love to vote of Jolie Jadis because I just can't trust her any more, but luckily for her. Valerie did something very stupid. Blocking an investigator who is known to be innocent... That's just public suicide... vote:Valerie McArthur,Inconspicuous I hope Valerie can explain to us why she blocked our ghostly staff member... I also hope that someone can come out and back Jolie's story up. If there's someone who can honestly say he or she trusts Jolie, and has evidence to back her story up, I would be willing to trust her. Valerie had a pretty decent explanation for blocking the investigator, this is no normal game of life. I've seen things this past week, I've never seem before. Ok, I've just about had it up to here with all this crap, and that's saying something for a short little house elf like me! Jolie, you may say a lot, but when I actually look at everything you've just said to us, I don't really see much in it that could possibly help us or explain your previous actions. Successful!? Do you not listen, or do you just talk so much that nothing goes in? The fact is, while Nene may have been impartial, that doesn't necessarily mean she was against us, and from what I have seen, there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that she was. For all we know, she may have been able to help us in some way. But aside from this, the fact remains that you purposefully lied to us and manipulated us to vote her off for your own gains, and I am thus highly skeptical in believing anything you say now because of it, as I have this feeling that you're trying to use us again. Something does not add up with you Jolie, and I am very much doubting that you are the innocent student you claim to be. The lies have to stop somewhere, my dear. With everything you've just said, you still failed to actually say a single thing that could possibly convince me that you have our best intentions at heart. You hide behind your "informer", who seems to me to just be another lame excuse to brush off your self-serving actions. Why do you trust this informer, might I ask? From what I can see, this "informer" sent you out to convict Sheila with the only stated reason being that he/she has "near-perfect evidence" proving that she is Hallowed. I find it highly interesting that the actual content of this information isn't stated, rather it is just a hollow and meaningless statement. I now see that the "evidence" you had against Sheila isn't as strong as it was before, is it, now that you've met a little opposition to your views? Interesting, very interesting indeed. I also find it astounding that despite your obvious lack of regard for the lives of the innocent and your reckless lying and twisting of the truth, there are still some people here who profess to trust you completely. I personally cannot understand how they can possibly know for sure that you are on their side unless you're Hallowed and these people are also your Hallowed followers, however I suppose some people can be easily taken in by shallow and empty words. Ladies and Gentlemen, I think it is time we made a stand and stopped listening to this blathering woman. She has no real evidence against Sheila, just as she didn't really have any real evidence against Nene either. Jolie has lied, she has tried to bully us into conforming with her votes by verbally abusing us for being "idiots", and frankly, what she says just sounds hollow and false to my ear. I think that, in light of the situation, I should also mention that I spotted Jolie leaving my rooms last night, where from the mess I came to the conclusion that she was trying to steal something from me. Unluckily for her, I don't have anything that can be stolen, however the attempted theft did nothing to make her seem any more innocent in my eyes. As Jolie has been unable to provide even one shred of evidence as to why I should believe her to be innocent, combined with her past misdeeds and my belief that she is trying to use us again, I have decided that it is time that I, the lowly house elf, took a stand for us innocents and began the voting for someone I believe to be Hallowed. Thus I shall Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). This woman has used us for her own ends once, but by the gods I won't let her do it again! While I feel that this is the right choice for today, we must also keep an eye out for the killer on the faculty. These Hallowed are working together remember, people, they're bound to give each ot her away at some point. You are making some good sense, and Jolie has been a suspect for me for a while, always having elaborate explanations but no real facts. Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay).
Eskallon Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 You are making some good sense, and Jolie has been a suspect for me for a while, always having elaborate explanations but no real facts. Vote: Jolie Jadis (Lord Arjay). So, can you please tell me why you think the investigator is lying?
Matn Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I'm not going to start again defending myself and throwing away all the 'real reasons' of Jolie Jadis for me being a Death's Hallowed, I have an alibi or it's far-fetched (something Jolie Jadis likes to use). And I'm sure we'll never see the 'real' evidence your so called informer as I know there is none against me. Jingle has put everything I wanted to say in good words, and he even has convinced me to vote. Jingle is the only one making sense here, in my eyes. I've been suspecting Jolie Jadis for a long time now, I even started to believe she's innocent. But things have changed now, and I'm fairly sure now she's not innocent. Although I also trust miss Ching, I think someone she's got mislead to thinking Jolie is innocent. Here I go, my first vote against someone I'm convinced she's not innocent: Vote: Jolie Jadis/Lord Arjay
Lord Arjay Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 I should like to remind you of something. If we assume that there are 6 hallowed then three more innocent lives and it is all over. After what happened last night it is entirely possible that by voting me off you will not see tommorow. Also, there is always the chance that there is a hallowed convertor, in which case only two more deaths are needed. Now then, that means the hallowed only need 2 misguided innocents to follow them. I hope that you will think carefully before voting. It is almost given that the hallowed are seizing there chance and will all vote for me. My last chance it seems is to reveal my informant, I have told Miss Ching of this person so she can back me up. Elloquence Malleus is my mystery informant. I urge you to wait before coming to a decision, we still have plenty of time. I should like to remind you of something. If we assume that there are 6 hallowed then three more innocent lives and it is all over. After what happened last night it is entirely possible that by voting me off you will not see tommorow. Also, there is always the chance that there is a hallowed convertor, in which case only two more deaths are needed. Now then, that means the hallowed only need 2 misguided innocents to follow them. I hope that you will think carefully before voting. It is almost given that the hallowed are seizing there chance and will all vote for me. My last chance it seems is to reveal my informant, I have told Miss Ching of this person so she can back me up. Elloquence Malleus is my mystery informant. I urge you to wait before coming to a decision, we still have plenty of time. Forgot to add something, I have been in contact with Miss Ching and she has provided me with suitable evidence that Elloquence is to be trusted. Therefore I shall Vote: Sheila Bones/Matn What?! How did that get there? Please ignore it, it is nothing to do with what I was saying.
Professor Flitwick Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Why are people voting for Jodie now that Miss Ching has shown she trusts her? Why are people so adamant to lynch a person the investigator knows isn't a Hallowed? I know it's a change of heart from previous days, but given Miss Chings statement, I don't see how anyone could think differently.
Eskallon Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Although I also trust miss Ching, I think someone she's got mislead to thinking Jolie is innocent. Okay fine let's say that Miss Ching is getting inaccurate results,. There is another innocent person who can investigate people and I have spoken to them as well as Iamded and Jolie. Tell me now that she is not proven innocent, yes tell me now crudo, tell me now. Jingle say she has rambled on and mislead us, but who has really done more to help us. You say that she has bullied us into voting but I see no bullying. For the love of god see that she is on our team.
Big Cam Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 So, can you please tell me why you think the investigator is lying? How many hallowed convictions has this magical investigative power brought us. I believe the number you are looking for is zero. All I am hearing are lies. "I have a foeglass and a regular one, sometimes I get the truth, sometimes I don't, BS. Jolie has been running us in circles. I'm finally going to voice my vote to get rid of her. Show me something she has told us that led to a hallowed conviction? Then I'll cancel my vote.
sok117 Posted August 2, 2010 Posted August 2, 2010 Everyone needs to calm down, I'm sure Jolie is innocent, why would our ghost of an investigator, who cannot be harmed for revealing her actions, lie to us? That makes me suspicious, very suspicious indeed, after collaborating with Jolie, it was my idea to vote off Nene, if you want to convict me of beng hallowed for voting off an impartial- which I think is crazy- so be it. But I know I trust Jolie, the person who I don't trust now is Sheila Bones, I think that the votes will be split by today and we will unfortunatley not come to any conviction because it seems like a lot of you are bent on connvicting Jolie whereas people who can see the favourable evidence towards her, are being a little more keen with their 1 vote. That is why, now I must unvote:Valerie McArthur/Inconspicuous because I feel as though her explenation is reasonable enough, and vote: Sheila Bones/Matn
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