LEGO Star Wars 2011 Pictures & Rumors

[The_Customizer]

Overall, I think a closed ARF visor would be cool, but a open one would be as well.

Also, if the picture that Brickdoctor posted of the MF is what Lego makes it, that would be sweet! (If it does get made...)

[XimenaPaulina]

Wouldn't the printed visor actually be better, since the helmet won't look weird when it's not being worn?

Well I think it's just a matter of personal preference, I just like the opened helmet over the closed printed one. On a different note, I'm interested to see actual shape of this ARF helmet, from the photos it looks like the top fin looks a bit larger than what it should be.

IMO people might think an open ARF helmet might look to much like a biker scour.

But aren't the ARF and Biker Scout supposed to be direct descendants? (ARF is the grandpa of the biker scouts).

[Ritz Brick]

Well I think it's just a matter of personal preference, I just like the opened helmet over the closed printed one. On a different note, I'm interested to see actual shape of this ARF helmet, from the photos it looks like the top fin looks a bit larger than what it should be.

But aren't the ARF and Biker Scout supposed to be direct descendants? (ARF is the grandpa of the biker scouts).

Yes, but I'm sure a 10 year old might not notice the difference.

[Brickdoctor]

Wouldn't the printed visor actually be better, since the helmet won't look weird when it's not being worn? (Greg's comic aside.) One of the things about the older Phase II clone minifigure helmets was the fact that the cut for the visor was in a particularly thick section of the helmet so it looked quite odd from the side. There was a similar problem with this in the original Phase I clone minifigures in that the visor's T-shape wasn't particularly well represented. I guess that a redeeming factor of the current Neo-Clone Wars craze is the introduction of more accurate Phase I clone minifigures (though the removal of the lip on the bottom bothers me a bit).

A Stellar Envoy would make an interesting LEGO set, don't you think?

A cut out would offer more possibilities for the face you can put behind the helmet to achieve different looks. I put an AT-ST driver head behind my scout trooper helmets to get that visor reflection. Puts the stock one to shame. 'Course, with a printed one, you can stick other heads under there and no one will know the difference.

Yeah, then you couldn't complain that the mandibles are too short.

[Lord Embo]

Yes, but I'm sure a 10 year old might not notice the difference.

I'm sure they would; after all, my 8 year old son can distinguish a Scout Trooper from an ARF Trooper, which is probably because I do whatever is possible to encourage him to enjoy Star Wars and learn what is what.

Sorry for the off-topic.

Lord Embo

[Gile (SRB)]

Well I think it's just a matter of personal preference, I just like the opened helmet over the closed printed one. On a different note, I'm interested to see actual shape of this ARF helmet, from the photos it looks like the top fin looks a bit larger than what it should be.

No no no.... Not that,you didn't understand me! Not open visor... I meant the AT-AT drivers head to compare,cause he has opened on back,doesn't he? And ARF's helmet seems a bit same as the (ARF one's) AT-AT driver one's. Not the looks,just i think that it will be opened on the back.

Edited December 2, 2010 by Gile (SRB)

[commanderneyo]

Oh I have a bad feeling about this that the ARF trooper helmet will not be opened and the eye thingy is just printed black (since they have to put the creepy clone face inside). I would've personally preferred an actual opening (like the AT-AT driver, ARC-170 pilot, Biker scout). That's why I think Arealight's version is better than this one.

My only concern about the ARF Is that it has to have a Clone head because they have the same face as normal Clone Troopers as you can see in Liberty on Ryloth when Stak had his Helmet knocked off by a Commando Droid

Edited December 2, 2010 by commanderneyo

[Ritz Brick]

No no no.... Not that,you didn't understand me! Not open visor... I meant the AT-AT drivers head to compare,cause he has opened on back,doesn't he? And ARF's helmet seems a bit same as the (ARF one's) AT-AT driver one's. Not the looks,just i think that it will be opened on the back.

How are AT-AT drivers helmets opened?

Maybe this year TLC will bring back the reversable head for open helmets? One side is black and the other has a creepy clone face?

[Penitent Tangent]

It was owned by a pair who ran a shipping company, if memory serves me correctly. One guy and one girl as crew and with dk. blue highlights. Read Millenium Falcon by James Luceno for more.

Nothing in the EU is canon, and if the MF is ever introduced in the Clone Wars (which is very possible but would be rather silly) it would almost certainly ignore these novels.

[Gile (SRB)]

How are AT-AT drivers helmets opened?

Maybe this year TLC will bring back the reversable head for open helmets? One side is black and the other has a creepy clone face?

Dude.... Do you have this year's AT-AT driver?Turn him around.Do you see almost half of his back part of the head? Dont you?

Edited December 2, 2010 by Gile (SRB)

[Brickdoctor]

Maybe this year TLC will bring back the reversable head for open helmets? One side is black and the other has a creepy clone face?

That would certainly make the head more desirable.

Nothing in the EU is canon, and if the MF is ever introduced in the Clone Wars (which is very possible but would be rather silly) it would almost certainly ignore these novels.

I'm sure CW would tinker with the established history, but for now the book, like the majority of the books of the EU, is very much canon.

Dude.... Do you have this year's AT-AT driver?Turn him around.Do you see almost half of his back part of the head? Dont you?

I wouldn't say it's open, jus that it has a cut out on the lower portion of the back. Honestly, I have no idea why it's there, and I expect the ARF helmet won't have it.

[Gile (SRB)]

I wouldn't say it's open, just that it has a cut out on the lower portion of the back. Honestly, I have no idea why it's there, and I expect the ARF helmet won't have it.

Hmm sorry,English is not my main language.I did not know how to describe it.

[The Legonater]

Actualy l don't mind closed off helmets. I recall several years ago making a brickfilm with the Phase 2 helmets. I was irrated trying to constantly swap the head because of the openings. The Cloney helmets change all that, so you can keep the head underneath the helmet without constantly swapping.

[StoutFiles]

"Nothing in the EU is canon, and if the MF is ever introduced in the Clone Wars (which is very possible but would be rather silly) it would almost certainly ignore these novels."

It's all canon if approved by Lucas. However, there are conflicting storylines in which the higher ranking fiction wins out and the story is not canon. For example, the movies are #1 and any story conflicting with them makes that story non-canon. A lot of stories were deemed non canon after the PT was released.

That said, for sanity purposes it is perfectly acceptable to regard CW as not canon if you wish, no one will hold it against you.

[The Legonater]

It's all canon if approved by Lucas. However, there are conflicting storylines in which the higher ranking fiction wins out and the story is not canon. For example, the movies are #1 and any story conflicting with them makes that story non-canon. A lot of stories were deemed non canon after the PT was released.

Funny, I've read quite a bit of EU and found nothing conflicting with the PT.

[Brickdoctor]

Hmm sorry,English is not my main language.I did not know how to describe it.

No harm done.

Actualy l don't mind closed off helmets. I recall several years ago making a brickfilm with the Phase 2 helmets. I was irrated trying to constantly swap the head because of the openings. The Cloney helmets change all that, so you can keep the head underneath the helmet without constantly swapping.

I don't like the closed ones becuase then TLG will put fleshie heads underneath, and I really don't like seeing that strip of flesh beneath the helmet. If CW helmets had always been open, TLG might have done the face by giving us reversible heads.

It's all canon if approved by Lucas. However, there are conflicting storylines in which the higher ranking fiction wins out and the story is not canon. For example, the movies are #1 and any story conflicting with them makes that story non-canon. A lot of stories were deemed non canon after the PT was released.

Yeah, if you look up canon on Wookieepedia it'll give you a full definition. I know the movies (G-canon) override CW (T-canon) which overrides any novels or comics.

Funny, I've read quite a bit of EU and found nothing conflicting with the PT.

Hmm, let's see, there were a couple books I remember that dealt with Luke's mother, but not as Padme. The only one I remember was the Black Fleet Trilogy, but I think it explained itself in-universe and canonically in the third book.

[The Legonater]

Hmm, let's see, there were a couple books I remember that dealt with Luke's mother, but not as Padme. The only one I remember was the Black Fleet Trilogy, but I think it explained itself in-universe and canonically in the third book.

Come to think of it, some of the cloning issues discussed in The Last Command could contradict Ep.2 and 3, but it could just be ignroance of the charecters and the cloners used.

[Brickdoctor]

Come to think of it, some of the cloning issues discussed in The Last Command could contradict Ep.2 and 3, but it could just be ignroance of the charecters and the cloners used.

No, 'cause Thrawn used Sparti cylinders, which grow clones faster and differently than the Kaminoan process. He also used the ysalamiri to conteract the effects of the Force, something the Kaminoans never touched on. The two were differentiated in the Republic Commando series where in the latter half of the war, the colnes are replenished much faster from Sparti facilities on Coruscant's moon, indicating that the Kaminoans didn't use Sparti technology which is why their clones took ten years to mature.

On-topic: I would prefer the open helmets for the ARF, but I really think TLG will do them closed.

Come to think of it, though, it would be easier to leave cut out than to get a printing stamp into the space between the sides of the brim.

[The Legonater]

No, 'cause Thrawn used Sparti cylinders, which grow clones faster and differently than the Kaminoan process. He also used the ysalamiri to conteract the effects of the Force, something the Kaminoans never touched on. The two were differentiated in the Republic Commando series where in the latter half of the war, the colnes are replenished much faster from Sparti facilities on Coruscant's moon, indicating that the Kaminoans didn't use Sparti technology which is why their clones took ten years to mature.

On-topic: I would prefer the open helmets for the ARF, but I really think TLG will do them closed.

Exactly, they used different cloners.

But I agree- knowing TLG, the helmets will likely be closed.

[Fallenangel]

Nothing in the EU is canon, and if the MF is ever introduced in the Clone Wars (which is very possible but would be rather silly) it would almost certainly ignore these novels.

True. It appears Lucas has a habit of approving Expanded Universe lit either forgetting what happened in it or without ever having read it in the first place.

Funny, I've read quite a bit of EU and found nothing conflicting with the PT.

Wookieepedia says:

C-3PO was originally activated on the Cybot Galactica foundry world of Affa[1] in the year 112 BBY

. After Menace the legitimate canon was that Anakin had built Threepio. You can argue that Anakin merely found Threepio's remains and rebuilt them, but that's the retconned story. Putting Threepio and Artoo in Antilles's service aboard the Tantive IV also conflicted with a lot of stuff in Droids, in which Threepio and Artoo are assigned to several other owners. (Threepio's becoming "separated" from Antilles is also a retcon.) In addition, Geonosians never helped build the Death Star and "Darth" was not a Sith title. (Exar Kun and whatnot.)

And a BIG one is that Boba Fett is Jaster Mereel, NOT Jango's clone. This was heavily retconned.

You could also say that the use of R7 droids in the Neo-Clone Wars is also a discrepancy, as the R7 series was developed for the New Republic E-wing. Additional discrepancies in the Neo-Clone Wars include Grievous's physical condition, Anakin's starfighter, and the appearance of the ARC-170 and the Venator (both of which did not feature in the war until 20 BBY.)

No, 'cause Thrawn used Sparti cylinders, which grow clones faster and differently than the Kaminoan process. He also used the ysalamiri to conteract the effects of the Force, something the Kaminoans never touched on. The two were differentiated in the Republic Commando series where in the latter half of the war, the colnes are replenished much faster from Sparti facilities on Coruscant's moon, indicating that the Kaminoans didn't use Sparti technology which is why their clones took ten years to mature.

On-topic: I would prefer the open helmets for the ARF, but I really think TLG will do them closed.

Come to think of it, though, it would be easier to leave cut out than to get a printing stamp into the space between the sides of the brim.

THIS! (I think it was spelled Spaarti, though.)

Seeing as the last set with a Phase II clone in it featured the "open" helmet and was released this year, wouldn't it make sense that they would reuse it?

That fleshy bit beneath the helmet is really quite annoying... though I don't see why you can't just stick a black head under the helmet. Worked for the stormtroopers and will work again for the new clones.

[Brickdoctor]

THIS! (I think it was spelled Spaarti, though.)

Seeing as the last set with a Phase II clone in it featured the "open" helmet and was released this year, wouldn't it make sense that they would reuse it?

That fleshy bit beneath the helmet is really quite annoying... though I don't see why you can't just stick a black head under the helmet. Worked for the stormtroopers and will work again for the new clones.

Whoops. I got close enough without looking it up though.

The ARF isn't a Phase 2 helmet, don't really know what you were referring to in the reply, though.

Yeah, I use a black head under 'em most of the time now, when I even use them, that is.

[BrickArtist]

Whoops. I got close enough without looking it up though.

The ARF isn't a Phase 2 helmet, don't really know what you were referring to in the reply, though.

Yeah, I use a black head under 'em most of the time now, when I even use them, that is.

I think he means the one in the swamp speeder. Edited December 3, 2010 by brickartist

[Brickdoctor]

I think he means the one in the swamp speeder.

I know that.

I was discussing the visor of the ARF trooper and he the reusing of a Phase 2 helmet. Other than that I want the open visor of the latter on the former, I don't see the connection when we know that ARF trooper is not wearing a Phase 2 helmet.

[Fallenangel]

I know that.

I was discussing the visor of the ARF trooper and he the reusing of a Phase 2 helmet. Other than that I want the open visor of the latter on the former, I don't see the connection when we know that ARF trooper is not wearing a Phase 2 helmet.

Oops. Let me try that again:

With the inclusion of members of this so-called Lightning Squadron it appears that the battlepack is a Neo-Clone Wars battlepack. As such, I think that with new molds we can expect either closed helmets in the style of the Phase I clones or the open-faced helmet with part of the actual helmet being a face print. The latter is clearly not the case, so I think we can expect a closed helmet. I'm looking forward to a closed-helmet version of Fordo in Phase II armor, complete with Jaig eyes. (I'm assuming Fordo has appeared in the Neo-Clone Wars.)

EDIT: One more thing:

Yeah, then you couldn't complain that the mandibles are too short.

I had wanted to metion that on the last two renditions of the Falcon (10179 and 7778) the issue was that the mandibles were too long. This was also the case in the original 7190. And the mandibles on the 4504 were just plain terrible.

Edited December 3, 2010 by fallenangel327

[Brickdoctor]

Oops. Let me try that again:

With the inclusion of members of this so-called Lightning Squadron it appears that the battlepack is a Neo-Clone Wars battlepack. As such, I think that with new molds we can expect either closed helmets in the style of the Phase I clones or the open-faced helmet with part of the actual helmet being a face print. The latter is clearly not the case, so I think we can expect a closed helmet. I'm looking forward to a closed-helmet version of Fordo in Phase II armor, complete with Jaig eyes. (I'm assuming Fordo has appeared in the Neo-Clone Wars.)

EDIT: One more thing:

I had wanted to metion that on the last two renditions of the Falcon (10179 and 7778) the issue was that the mandibles were too long. This was also the case in the original 7190. And the mandibles on the 4504 were just plain terrible.

Ah. I'm pretty sure Fordo has not appeared in CW, and IMHO I hope he doesn't because his is one of the few clone squads I currently like.

I wouldn't have expected TLG to get it all right on the first try, but I was surprised that the UCS one was inaccurate. I think the reason might be that wedge plates only come in certain angles and certain lengths, and it's not that simple to just knock off a stud or two.