Non PF Creations

[daftendirekt]

So I have a large amount of Technic pieces. But I do not have Power Functions. It seems like almost every Technic creation these days involves PF. I need some ideas for MOCs I can make that don't involve PF. I just cant get any Ideas.

[phool]

You can make a non-pf version of just about everything. PF are not the be all and end-all, take 8880 for example - one of the finest technic sets and no electronics in site

[Meatman]

LOL. You can build just about anything without power functions.

[grohl]

Ok, so just to start with my models, here are some non PF ones.

[Jurgen Krooshoop]

Crowkillers Lamborghini Gallardo is a very nice model without Power functions, but with instructions.

And you're right about lots of MOC's using PF nowadays, I'm completely guilty as charged My last non-PF model was my Black Supercar "The Wasp", which is over a year old:

Edited June 29, 2010 by Jurgen Krooshoop

[andythenorth]

"No PF" is classic Technic style :)

There are so many things you could build, why have a look at old Technic sets on Brickset

Some things I've learned about PF models are:

1. Playability comes from controlling the model remotely and having it respond well.

2. building with PF is a challenge of fitting in motors / battery box / gears and driving rings.

3. handling torque is also a real challenge with large PF models. Getting enough torque through drive systems to power a big model without breaking components is a challenge.

4. PF is great fun, and most of my current projects are PF...but sometimes it's nice not to be changing batteries time and again.

This changes when there's no PF. For a complex model the challenge is combining manual playability and good looks.

- Having all the controls easily used by hand is important.

- It's fun to make the controls fit in to the model appearance, but still have it so people can pick up the model and figure out what to press / turn / push :)

This Foremost Commander off-road truck I built looks good, but is a *bad* manual model. It's huge (1m long), heavy, and lacks playable functions. It would have been a good PF model, but the components would break often.

This JCB Fastrac is not too bad, crams in an awful lot of functions though :)

Lego 8285 is my favourite set of recent years. This winch-truck MOD of it has about the right balance of looks / playability (engine, steering, stabilisers, crane rotation, crane up/down, sliding fifth wheel, fifth wheel lock, winch with two speeds).

[DLuders]

Ok, so just to start with my models, here are some non PF ones.

@ daftendirekt: Grohl's Brickshelf folder http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=grohl666 has many photos for the non-Power-Functions Technic MOCs he pictured above. Many of them have enough photos to be able to figure out how build them yourself.

[DLuders]

On his Brickshelf gallery http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=308632 , Nico71 has posted "A Little MOC, inspired by Libeherr L508. The MOC is for a contest at Setechnic.com, Under 400 parts. Instructions."

[dr_spock]

So I have a large amount of Technic pieces. But I do not have Power Functions. It seems like almost every Technic creation these days involves PF. I need some ideas for MOCs I can make that don't involve PF. I just cant get any Ideas.

You could make things like trailers without PF. What are your interests?