LEGO Censoring petition?

[Capt.JohnPaul]

I posted on the LEGO forums a petition to stop the insane monthly fee. There were four pages of signers. But now it's not there anymore. Does LEGO have something to do with this, censoring people with disagreements?... sounds a little Marxism is stirring up... Anyways, with four pages of signers, I don't believe they crushed this. Should I post a new topic? If so, let's have in the title: ----E (pitch fork)

-the Admiral

[Stash2Sixx]

As far as monthly subscriptions go to online games, $9.99 isn't too bad. WOW was $14.99, and then there are others. I wouldn't go as far as to call the fee insane.

Regarding your petition though, no clue what hapenned with that. But, it is their site so...

[Capt.JohnPaul]

As far as monthly subscriptions go to online games, $9.99 isn't too bad. WOW was $14.99, and then there are others. I wouldn't go as far as to call the fee insane.

Regarding your petition though, no clue what hapenned with that. But, it is their site so...

Yeah, maybe, but it IS a kids game and it is how I feel, but the real problem is right now is that there was 4 pages, FOUR pages of signers but LEGO comes in and censors it so it won't cause further trouble. But on the topic, people have played mmorpgs for free, so LEGO will have competition. Also you have to pay 40.00 USD up front. And like another person said, only spoiled kids will get the game. So, should I try to post another topic?

-the Admiral

Edited May 22, 2010 by Capt.JohnPaul

[The Penguin]

... sounds a little Marxism is stirring up...

What does Marxism have to do with a kids game petition, I wonder?

As for the topic, having been an on-line games player myself, I suppose it's pretty normal for TLC to stick to their policy. I'm pretty sure that $9.99 is a fair price and won't stop a true LEGO-fan.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen! )

[God Iron]

What does Marxism have to do with a kids game petition, I wonder?

As for the topic, having been an on-line games player myself, I suppose it's pretty normal for TLC to stick to their policy. I'm pretty sure that $9.99 is a fair price and won't stop a true LEGO-fan.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen! )

I hate to say this, but Cartoon Network's MMO Fusionfall (Which features nearly every Cartoon Network show and has 36 levels are full 3D Graphics) has the lovely fee of 0.00 for life. It used to cost money but now it's 100% free to do everything.

I'm not to sure $9.99 is a fair price. I belive Runescape, that incredibly popular MMO is a bit cheaper than that. Also to further the nail in the coffin, I've been playing in the Beta, and in my opinion I wouldn't fork up that much money a month to play this game.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

What does Marxism have to do with a kids game petition, I wonder?

As for the topic, having been an on-line games player myself, I suppose it's pretty normal for TLC to stick to their policy. I'm pretty sure that $9.99 is a fair price and won't stop a true LEGO-fan.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen! )

About the marxism thing, they are censoring the petition for their own needs (the general said that) I know it's crazy. But anyways, 4 pages of signers disagreed with the price. There are better games for free plus with LU, 10USD a month with 40USD up front, it's crazy!

-the Admiral

[Cerlin]

marxism has nothing to do with all this.

but telling a profit-oriented company not to charge a fee for their services is a bit unrealistic in my opinion. With lego and with all things else - everyone complains about the price, why let a thread in an official forum open, when that is a topic not open for discussion with TLC?

[Capt.JohnPaul]

I know this has nothing to do with marxism, my brother (the general) said that. I only want to cut the monthly fees, I would pay the $40. I'm also concerned how they (maybe, what else could have happened?) deleted this topic with 4 pages. But there are petitions for everything else.

-the Admiral

[legitimatealex]

The game will have to stand on its own. World of Warcraft charges 15 dollars a month and has been going for years now. I paid for that for three years because it was good. Then it got bad and I quit. If the game isn't good then don't pay the money. Simple as that. If it is good then you'll want to play it.

Personally I wont play unless it is very good. I got pissed off with WoW because they kept changing and making all of my efforts worthless. I realized that I wanted to play with something that actually existed that I could feel with my hands. Its no coincidence that at the same time I came back to LEGO.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

Ok, with all of your comments about lego not taking away the monthly fee, I get that and it probably wont happen, I'm now concerened that they deleted the topic, would they delete it because it's a petition, yes, there was a topic of someone complaining about the price with no word "petition", but it's not deleted.

-the Admiral

[God Iron]

Ok, with all of your comments about lego not taking away the monthly fee, I get that and it probably wont happen, I'm now concerened that they deleted the topic, would they delete it because it's a petition, yes, there was a topic of someone complaining about the price with no word "petition", but it's not deleted.

-the Admiral

Don't worry about it Admiral. The LEGO Fourms are pretty bad anyway, so its no suprise that they would do this and leave another similar topic open. Don't lose sleep about this, just to stick to EB and the other good LEGO Forums and stay away from there.

[M:tron engineer]

its common that you pay up front for a game and that you pay monthly fee for playing. What is more troublesome is that the quality of games is falling yet prices (up front and monthly fee) stays the same.As for TLC; they have invest a lot of money in this game it would be "insane" not to charge for it(and get back at least money invested in production);but they could use same strategy as with runescape:leave "basic" game for free and charge those who want more advanced gameplay. Also im afraid, that this game will be more TOFL oriented thus not so interesting for AFOL's....And to consider which population is easy to "lure" in game is this a bit "ethical questionable".everybody knows that parents would do ALMOST anything for their kids(buying them clothes/shoes from known brands/companies even if they will use it only for 14days or so(kids foots grow very fast), same with toys...)and this probably include few thousand or maybe even few houndred thousands of "subscribers"(easy money form TLC i asume), even if the game would prove for not so great.

just a bit Off topic:

how many bought COD:MW and mw2? Today everything is made to be so simple, no more fear from dying(ingame), easy gameplay(with xyz scripted events), lack of good story and belivable characters... I wonder how many of you would try deus ex or grim fandango? Due to "old" graphic and a bit harder gameplay(well Grim fandango is harder as hell,especialy if you're not used to play adventures games) i guess most would stay at MW. It will be probably the same with LU, because its well known brand/company(who cares only for profitotherwise PaB and design by me wouldnt be so expensive), and have great mass of followers behind them.

I just hope they WILL include so many virtual pieces so that players will be able to do what they want(M and B trons MUST be included)otherwise it will be probably dull game to play, not even if they put good storyline in game and make big number of quests(which i bellive it will be far from Rs or WoW ones).

I assume that most of "soon be" players want to play this game, just bacause it will be possible to create virtual buildings/vehicles and then talk with other lego g33ks and solve the quests together. If they fail in this most BASIC thing, they can shut down servers before they are even up and running.

[Calanon]

I can fully understand the monthly fee, but $10 as well as $40 for the game though does seem a bit ridiculous. I personally play Runescape which is only $5 a month, you can play for free AND you don't have to buy a disc. I do like LU in the beta testing, but I don't prefer it to Runescape so paying more money doesn't seem worth it to me. I also doubt that I will find time to play three different MMO's as I also play LOTRO but I have life-time membership for that.

[Aanchir]

I don't see what the fuss is about. You had an online petition with anonymous signers and a limited sample size. You ended up with nothing. But since nothing is about equal to the value of online petitions of that sort, there wasn't really any loss. There's nothing rational about that sort of online petition, and it makes sense for LEGO to snuff that sort of nonsense out rather than let it encourage other people to hold onto irrational hopes and expectations.

Seriously, LEGO prices LEGO Universe the way they do because that's the logical thing to do. I saw one noob on Brickset mention the fact that the whole world is having economic trouble, and thus LEGO has no excuse for charging high prices. But what that person failed to realize was that the whole world also includes LEGO. They have to make money, unless you'd prefer to get a year or so of low-priced merchandise in exchange for seeing the company disappear for good.

If people weren't willing to pay the prices LEGO is charging for LU, then LEGO wouldn't charge those prices. It's easy for a LEGO fan in a comfy(ish) computer chair to think that they understand the economics side of LEGO, but that's not true-- LEGO, like any large company, prices things strategically in order to maximize profit.

I understand that having something censored brings forth a lot of anger, frustration, and disgust. But after the nonsense BIONICLE fans were spouting earlier this year in hopes of keeping that line alive (or, for that matter, the nonsense they've been spouting for years in hopes of having LEGO go back to "the old ways" of BIONICLE), I've come to understand that online petitions are fool's gold. You're better off letting time run its course-- if enough people are incensed at the pricing to make a meaningful petition, then that's more than enough people to make a dent in LEGO's profit and force them to lower prices. Otherwise, you've just got to take what you're given and be happy with it.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

I don't see what the fuss is about. You had an online petition with anonymous signers and a limited sample size. You ended up with nothing. But since nothing is about equal to the value of online petitions of that sort, there wasn't really any loss. There's nothing rational about that sort of online petition, and it makes sense for LEGO to snuff that sort of nonsense out rather than let it encourage other people to hold onto irrational hopes and expectations.

Seriously, LEGO prices LEGO Universe the way they do because that's the logical thing to do. I saw one noob on Brickset mention the fact that the whole world is having economic trouble, and thus LEGO has no excuse for charging high prices. But what that person failed to realize was that the whole world also includes LEGO. They have to make money, unless you'd prefer to get a year or so of low-priced merchandise in exchange for seeing the company disappear for good.

If people weren't willing to pay the prices LEGO is charging for LU, then LEGO wouldn't charge those prices. It's easy for a LEGO fan in a comfy(ish) computer chair to think that they understand the economics side of LEGO, but that's not true-- LEGO, like any large company, prices things strategically in order to maximize profit.

I understand that having something censored brings forth a lot of anger, frustration, and disgust. But after the nonsense BIONICLE fans were spouting earlier this year in hopes of keeping that line alive (or, for that matter, the nonsense they've been spouting for years in hopes of having LEGO go back to "the old ways" of BIONICLE), I've come to understand that online petitions are fool's gold. You're better off letting time run its course-- if enough people are incensed at the pricing to make a meaningful petition, then that's more than enough people to make a dent in LEGO's profit and force them to lower prices. Otherwise, you've just got to take what you're given and be happy with it.

Thanks guys for the replies, I know that LEGO won't probably lower prices, but the feeling that lego censored the petition is outrageous. I know that I went maybe over the top with the first post saying "insane prices" but others agreed. So anyone next to post, don't worry about the prices and what I said, just worry about LEGO censoring petitions. For a question, do YOU agree with LEGO censoring petitions?

-the Admiral

[_Axel]

Yeah, about a week ago I posted a message concerning the cheap quality of Collectible Minifigures, and it's still not approved

What bother me is more the fact they don't say why they delete it, or don't approve it. I posted a messsage concerning behaviours on LU forum and it has been disapprove for no reason.

[Big Cam]

What does Marxism have to do with a kids game petition, I wonder?

As for the topic, having been an on-line games player myself, I suppose it's pretty normal for TLC to stick to their policy. I'm pretty sure that $9.99 is a fair price and won't stop a true LEGO-fan.

Good day, ladies and gentlemen! )

Marxism is synonymous with communism. Which is what he was getting at, since TLG saw something they didn't like and just made it dissapear. Now I understand that a lot of kids on this board wont understand that yet, and there are a lot of kids here. We need to keep in mind that the Lego forum is not public domain it is a privetly own forum controlled by the owner. They have the right to remove anything they want for any reason or even for no reason. You can't claim freedom of speech in a privetly owned venue.

Now this doesn't mean I agree with them being so overprotective, which they are but it is fully their right to remove any thread they wish.

[_Axel]

Mmmokay, apparently my previously mentioned message has been disapproved without further explication

Here is the message.

I don't see what's offensive about warning other customer about the quality of the LEGO products, "Only the best is good enought", after all !