851/952 Massey Ferguson Re-release with modern parts

[Plastic Nurak]

It could appear incredible, but old Technical-Expert Bulders Set #851/#952, the Massey Ferguson-like tractor, is the most reviewed among early Technic items. Seeing it, I thought it could be a great idea a re-release of this old set under Creator brand to respect old more-system-than-technic-like design; but, being a Technic set, I'm asking if it's possible to brand eventually this set under or both Creator and Technic themes or releasing it like a sort of "Advanced Creator" new subtheme.

I'm ready for the crazy house or it's, IYO, a passable idea ?

P.S: Can anybody please quote & rewrite this post in proper english ?

Edited May 21, 2010 by Plastic Nurak

[DLuders]

Yes, the buying public would probably like to see this early TECHNIC model reissued again. I don't think Mom/Dad would care what Lego "theme" it is sold under; it's looks like FUN for their young kids to build, and it has the CLASSIC Lego look.

Blakbird has a very good review of the model on his Technicopedia site: http://www.ericalbrecht.com/technic/851.html .

Edited May 21, 2010 by dluders

[Plastic Nurak]

Blakbird has a very good review of the model on his Technicopedia site: http://www.ericalbrecht.com/technic/851.html .

Yes, I did read it.

[paul_delahaye]

I don't understand the concept and peoples love for re-releasing old sets, you want old sets, buy them on ebay or bricklink, they may be expensive, but that is kind of the idea behind collectables, you don't see matchbox releasing an old classic car from the 70's.

I'd far rather see Lego put their efforts into releasing new more detailed and functional technic sets.

Paul

[Blakbird]

It is a big coincidence that you wrote this post today because I just rebuilt this model last night after my move to a new house and was thinking how excellent it was. It is not possible to re-issue the model in exactly the same form because the wheels and tires are no longer in production. There aren't any new wheels and tires with the same (or even similar) size. All of the other parts still exist, though the studded Technic beams have become somewhat unusual. The model also uses the forbidden "pony ear" technique for the tail light which LEGO would not use in a model today.

With the exception of the rear wheels, all of the parts in this set are very common so it would be easy to reproduce it from parts even if you don't own the set by looking up the instructions on Peeron.

[Plastic Nurak]

The model also uses the forbidden "pony ear" technique for the tail light which LEGO would not use in a model today.

A curiosity. Why now it is forbidden? When I was a kid in the Eighties, it was sometimes still used . For small details, this technic could be still regarded in a positive view, IMHO.

Edited May 22, 2010 by Plastic Nurak

[johanby]

A curiosity. Why now it is forbidden? When I was a kid in the Eighties, it was sometimes still used . For small details, this technic could be still regarded in a positive view, IMHO.

Because of stressing the bricks/studs/etc in a destructive way. See http://bramlambrecht.com/tmp/jamieberard-b...stress-bf06.pdf

[Plastic Nurak]

Because of stressing the bricks/studs/etc in a destructive way. See http://bramlambrecht.com/tmp/jamieberard-b...stress-bf06.pdf

I didn't know that also technique was "illegal". Excuse me for the OT.

P.S. And the studs into bottom tubes ?

Edited May 22, 2010 by Plastic Nurak

[Darth Legolas]

It is a big coincidence that you wrote this post today because I just rebuilt this model last night after my move to a new house and was thinking how excellent it was. It is not possible to re-issue the model in exactly the same form because the wheels and tires are no longer in production. There aren't any new wheels and tires with the same (or even similar) size. All of the other parts still exist, though the studded Technic beams have become somewhat unusual. The model also uses the forbidden "pony ear" technique for the tail light which LEGO would not use in a model today.

With the exception of the rear wheels, all of the parts in this set are very common so it would be easy to reproduce it from parts even if you don't own the set by looking up the instructions on Peeron.

1. Could you provide a picture of the "pony ear" technique? I'd love to know what you're talking about.

2. Studded technic beams are uncommon in technic sets, but if you look at Lego as a whole they're everywhere! Most of my collection is 2004+ and I have more than 50 of them.

[Plastic Nurak]

1. Could you provide a picture of the "pony ear" technique? I'd love to know what you're talking about.

Look at the top of the trailer, impossible you never saw this building technique.

Edited May 22, 2010 by Plastic Nurak

[Darth Legolas]

Look at the top of the trailer, impossible you never saw this building technique.

Right, thanks. I won't even bother to ask why that's called a "pony ear."

I didn't even realize one could do that until about 2 years ago...

[Blakbird]

Right, thanks. I won't even bother to ask why that's called a "pony ear."

It's called pony ear because some of the first LEGO horses such as those used in the 375 castle were brick-built and used this for the ears.

[hoeij]

It could appear incredible, but old Technical-Expert Bulders Set #851/#952, the Massey Ferguson-like tractor, is the most reviewed among early Technic items. Seeing it, I thought it could be a great idea a re-release of this old set under Creator brand to respect old more-system-than-technic-like design; but, being a Technic set, I'm asking if it's possible to brand eventually this set under or both Creator and Technic themes or releasing it like a sort of "Advanced Creator" new subtheme.

I'm ready for the crazy house or it's, IYO, a passable idea ?

P.S: Can anybody please quote & rewrite this post in proper english ?

This set is indeed very nice. The most realistic lego tractor I know of (my dad had a Massey Ferguson that looked exactly like it!).

Last time I checked (that's a while ago though) it was not expensive on eBay, so why the need for a re-release?