PUCI Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) Hi everyone, this fire engine was made at the end of July. My lazyness was the main factor why I am posting this now. On brickshelf, our American friends have been dominating on Fire Engine Making (try searching "Ladder" on brickshelf, and you will get the idea.....). Realizing that, I though it would be nice to make a different fire engine My initial idea was to make a fire engine looks like this The Real Thing This truck is very different from those one on Brickshelf, because it is much smaller. In addition, it seems the US are only using ladders for rescuing people, the lack of hydraulic platform has further push me to create this engine However, at the end, it turns out to be like this: Unlike traditional standard Lego Fire Engine, this has 4 seats to accomdate 4 people There are containers on both side of the truck, carrying rescue equipment. There is also a pump at the rear of the truck ------------- The most difficult part of this fire engine engine is the Hydraulic Platform / Ladder, due to the heavy weight of the Platform, normal hinge is not strong enough to support a loaded platform. Therefore Technic parts were used to compensate this. One of the original specifications before I made this truck was that platform must be able to fit in 2 people The highest point the platform is almost the same as 10190 --------------------- Conclusion Rumour said there would be new fire set in 2010 Jan/Feb, have I known this earlier, I wouldnt made this fire engine. As the platform part was so hard, and I nearly gave up at some point. The platform/ladder you are seeing now is the 4th attempt Time Breakdown Truck part -- 10-15hrs Platform part -- 20hrs Overall, I am happy with the result, and hope you like it too ! Edited August 19, 2009 by PUCI Quote
Milan Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 That is an nice lego fire truck! It looks good proportioned and nicely designed. I would just change 2x8 red plate on sides with 2x(1x8) tiles to achieve smoother look, and remove one stud off the yellow roof (the one with flashlight, and move them one stud back) I do not like the smooth and sloped roof covered with that one stud plate. Quote
prateek Posted August 19, 2009 Posted August 19, 2009 I agree with Milan on the changes but everything else looks really good Quote
black painter Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 great model it looks like a scania type 4 with a aerial pack. We have several in Victoria, Australia. There is also a few in New Zealand and most are based on Scania chassies. I agree with the person who said about the flat instead of bubbled pieces on the side of the cab. Quote
Ralph_S Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Many US fire departments do have aerial booms, but I suspect that the reason why you don;t see all that many of them on brickshelf is that they are a lot harder to build than a conventional ladder truck. Steven Ashbury has a nice mid mount and I've done a European one myself. Anyway, this isn't about my MOCs but about yours. I agree with Milan on the roof. Lowering the aft part by one plate would make it look nicer. Looking at the real one I'd also suggest getting rid of the sloped parts at the rear end of the cabin. The real truck has a separate cabin and aft body, with the rear of the cabin being vertical. These are just minor things, really. There is one more thing that is mainly a matter of personal preference, although a fairly important issue from my point of view. Because minifigures are awkwardly proportioned it is next to impossible to build a vehicle that looks good with the figures standing next to it that can still seat figures side-by-side. You've tried, but I'm not so sure you've succeeded. The cabin looks a bit awkward and I think that you could make it look a lot better if you'd be willing to compromise and get rid of a few of the figures. I suspect the figures are also the reason why you've had to raise the back end of the cab's roof too. Overall the truck is nicely proportioned and I'm impressed by the construction of the boom and the basket -in particular by the way you've mounted the hinge in the middle. Cheers, Ralph Quote
Vestabuyer Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 Greetings! That is a very nice fire truck! Quote
PUCI Posted August 28, 2009 Author Posted August 28, 2009 (edited) Sorry for the late reply That is an nice lego fire truck!It looks good proportioned and nicely designed. I would just change 2x8 red plate on sides with 2x(1x8) tiles to achieve smoother look, and remove one stud off the yellow roof (the one with flashlight, and move them one stud back) I do not like the smooth and sloped roof covered with that one stud plate. Thanks, unforunately the 2x (1x8 tile) is not possible because With regard of the roof, because the firemen helmet is taller than normal cap hat, I cannot lower any more. In fact the helmet is touching the roof right now.... But thanks for the idea great model it looks like a scania type 4 with a aerial pack. We have several in Victoria, Australia. There is also a few in New Zealand and most are based on Scania chassies. I agree with the person who said about the flat instead of bubbled pieces on the side of the cab. I never realize these hydraulic platforms were used on other area except Hong Kong, can you give me a link on that please ?? When I travel to UK, I only see Ladder and pumpers. Many US fire departments do have aerial booms, but I suspect that the reason why you don;t see all that many of them on brickshelf is that they are a lot harder to build than a conventional ladder truck. Steven Ashbury has a nice mid mount and I've done a European one myself. Anyway, this isn't about my MOCs but about yours. I agree with Milan on the roof. Lowering the aft part by one plate would make it look nicer. Looking at the real one I'd also suggest getting rid of the sloped parts at the rear end of the cabin. The real truck has a separate cabin and aft body, with the rear of the cabin being vertical. These are just minor things, really. There is one more thing that is mainly a matter of personal preference, although a fairly important issue from my point of view. Because minifigures are awkwardly proportioned it is next to impossible to build a vehicle that looks good with the figures standing next to it that can still seat figures side-by-side. You've tried, but I'm not so sure you've succeeded. The cabin looks a bit awkward and I think that you could make it look a lot better if you'd be willing to compromise and get rid of a few of the figures. I suspect the figures are also the reason why you've had to raise the back end of the cab's roof too. Overall the truck is nicely proportioned and I'm impressed by the construction of the boom and the basket -in particular by the way you've mounted the hinge in the middle. Cheers, Ralph Thanks for sharing your MOC, I certainly learn something (espeially the mud guard) With regard of the slope parts near the end of cabin, because half way through the making, I realize my skill is not going to be good enough to have an exact model, so I throught I could make a more futuristic look. I do agree with your views on minifig proportion to some extend, but because during my planning phase, my specification of this fire truck was to able accompany 4 people, therefore I follow this direction all the way. Mainly there are 6 firemen in my collection but not enough engines. Have I made a different specification in the beginning, this truck may looks more relastic but can only seat 2 people. However, I agree 100% my cabin looks a bit of a mess, but well, better luck next time. Thanks Edited August 28, 2009 by PUCI Quote
ACCURATEin Posted August 28, 2009 Posted August 28, 2009 I really like that fire engine. Good work! What's next on the build list? Quote
MengShu1985 Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 Nice Fire Truck... I wish to add a hydraulic platform to my pumper but I dont know how to start with it ... Its time to modify my current pumper again ... NICE TRY... love it...... Quote
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