Hollow studs

[Reaper052]

Today I was looking at the new board games that lego is releasing soon and I noticed that in two of the sets there are white 1x1 round plates with holes through them. Doesn't megabloks have studs like that? Are these examples of the new replacement for the original 1x1 or is a new separate piece. Is this a good thing or a bad thing.

Right now I'm just really worried that this is a replacement piece, lego has done it before and I don't like it. It could be useful but shouldn't replace the 1x1 round.

If anyone knows the answers to my questions it would be appreciated, please discuss.

Reaper052 :skull:

[Oky]

I don't think anyone knows the answer for sure. I, for one, don't think that these will replace the old ones completely. At least I don't hope so. Sets where the stud of the 1x1 round plates are exposed, like the AAT, wouldn't look as good with holes in the studs.

However, I do hope that we will see these new versions in more sets where it doesn't matter if they have holes or not because I think they could be useful.

[ILikePi]

It's obviously not a replacement to the normal 1 x 1 round plate. I'm guessing that these pieces were made specially for the Games sets, so they could be used as eyes (for the robots and spider).

EDIT: Oky Wan beat me by a few seconds!

Edited August 5, 2009 by ILikePi

[General Armendariz]

What? do you mean these?Cause they've always had a hole in it

[Reaper052]

Armendariz, that is the a 1x1 brick, not a 1x1 plate. Sorry to confuse you.

And thanks Oky and Ilikepi, you are probably right that they aren't a replacement but Lego has made mistakes like that before, like the new 1x1 cone for example.

Reaper052 :skull:

[Forresto]

Today I was looking at the new board games that lego is releasing soon and I noticed that in two of the sets there are white 1x1 round plates with holes through them. Doesn't megabloks have studs like that?

I noticed that too. I feel your concern about lego making pieces that only have so far been made on the dark side of building bricks, but this is'nt the first time a new lego piece looked like somthing "Megablocks" would make.

Example...

the Orc sword

dynamite sticks

several new cockpit/window designs

personally I like all those pieces and I don't think that these new studs are going to be too bad. In fact they could be pretty useful.

Right now I'm just really worried that this is a replacement piece, lego has done it before and I don't like it.

I would be personally very mad at TLG if they did that, and so would many other peolpe. Overall I doubt they would do that considering that a regular stud is an extremely useful piece and a drastic change would possibly cause uproar in the community.

[General Armendariz]

Armendariz, that is the a 1x1 brick, not a 1x1 plate. Sorry to confuse you.

And thanks Oky and Ilikepi, you are probably right that they aren't a replacement but Lego has made mistakes like that before, like the new 1x1 cone for example.

Reaper052 :skull:

Oh, okay thanks

[Fluyt]

What? do you mean these?Cause they've always had a hole in it

Not always ;) (here, and even earlier: here)

[Lt. de Martinet]

A pic, for those of you who are confuzzled:

...I wouldn't be surprised in the least if these replace the normal ones. They've done plenty other similar changes before.

[CopMike]

I don´t know but I really don´t guess think that´s a permanent change in the design.

As for the piece itself I´m glad TLG made it, I could see many uses for it. I have a bunch of them and will soon put them to use. And I´m sure we´re going to see many newly well designed pieces in the future !

To be clear about the design itself, it´s NOT a "reverse" piece - it´s just like the old 4073.

[prateek]

I don´t know but I really don´t guess think that´s a permanent change in the design.

As for the piece itself I´m glad TLG made it, I could see many uses for it. I have a bunch of them and will soon put them to use. And I´m sure we´re going to see many newly well designed pieces in the future !

To be clear about the desing itself, it´s NOT a "reverse" piece - it´s just like the old 4073.

I like them too. Designers will probably start using them soon, but I don't think they'll replace the old ones.

[Peppermint_M]

Kids are less likely to choke on them.

They are more "eye" like.

They will be useful for using as beads.

The only place that they won't be good is as a cosmetic greebl, but then there is always bricklink for the thousands of the old style ones if this design is permenant.

[posades]

Any new or updated piece is fine in my book, though it would be nice if it wasn't an either/or type situation. Both pieces have uses so hopefully TLG continues to make both pieces.

[Captain Green Hair]

Any new or updated piece is fine in my book, though it would be nice if it wasn't an either/or type situation. Both pieces have uses so hopefully TLG continues to make both pieces.

I agree, as they could hold a bar or what not and make a nice flagpole stand or something.

They'd also look good as bolts i think in black, as it would look as it they have a screwhole in it.

[______]

I've always needed bricks like that for certain mocs, i personally love them! Although if you needed them without the hole in the middle for stones or snowballs i can see that being annoying, if your scared they will be replaced i would make one big pick a brick order tonight

[Tom Bricks]

I hope that this piece is used in more than just the games. It looks useful and I would love for it to become as common, but not replace, the regular one.

[Nuju Metru]

Personally, I think those parts could be very useful, actually. :)

-Nuju Metru

[Spyder]

I think it's great that TLG upgrades pieces, just as long as they don't completely get rid of the originals. The new stud has several uses, as do the new 2x2 plates with one jumper-stud in the middle. So I would love to see them in more sets than only the games, I just don't want them to take over the original stud.

Edited August 9, 2009 by Spyder

[Jvvv]

Kids are less likely to choke on them.

I think this might be the key idea. Connected to a 1x1 round brick a normal 1x1 round plate would make a combination similar to the old 1x1 round brick. I think the combination of plate and the brick can be quite usual in the new games so the hole is added because of safety cautions.

It is a little bit ugly, but maybe useful, too.

[Reaper052]

The choking thing isn't an issue with me, I don't plan on eating my lego anytime soon. But it shouldn't need to be completely child-proof against 1-4 year olds since lego warns against small kids and choking hazards anyway.

Reaper052 :skull:

[ziljin]

I bought 2 Dozers, so I have 12 of these pieces. However 7 have hollow studs at the top and 5 are solid. Is one of the two types a defect? Or did tthey give me wrong pieces? As far as I can tell they are the same except the solid studs ones are a bit more yellow.

[Cavannus]

Unfortunately I think the "old" brick might be replaced progressively by the new one (while the "old" molds become worn). Managing two similar parts has a significant cost (due to errors, multiple references, etc.) and Lego have tended to replace solid studs by hollow studs (on round bricks, etc.) for several decades.

Furthermore, this round plate is used most of the time:

- either between two other bricks, so there is no reason to keep the two versions of stud;

- or as decorative element, and the new one may be as nice as the old one so why keeping both?

Let's wait and see!

[larry marak]

It does mean that there will be another part number in the bricklink listings, but the hollow stud is backwards compatible and more importantly forwards compatible. Tente and Megablok have used hollow studs for antenna mountings, flames, and other extensions literally for decades. Just as many Lego designs are now public domain, so many element types from other companies have lapsed patents and are fair game for TLG. If the element works perfectly, by all means adopt it.