Hobbes Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 ... at around 1 pm I quit smoking (and haven't started again since). So my girl-friend decided to give me a 7243 Construction Site set as an anniversary gift *wub* I saw it on sale at a local Woolworth the other day and mentioned something about probably buying myself a christmas gift. And here I am building it. And I have to admit it isn't that bad, has some nice little details... :) Quote
xwingyoda Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 Excellent !!!!!!! I quit smoking a couple of weeks agao (nearly one month and a half) !!! Patches make it soooo easy !!! Lets have an ex-smoker corner hehe ;) Quote
Deinonychus Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 Congrats on so far kicking your addiction Now how long before you're able to run a kilometer without dying? Quote
Hobbes Posted December 10, 2005 Author Posted December 10, 2005 Now how long before you're able to run a kilometer without dying? Well, since you asked: I've played baseball, ice hockey, squash and occasionally went jogging while I was still smoking, no problem at all. Actually, I'm doing less sports since I quit, and sometimes I wish for a smoke (especially when I'm having a coffee). I gained weight, too, all within the first weeks of quitting, because I substituted my addiction with sweets. That's gone now, but due to less activities I'm having trouble getting rid of it. Hockey would be perfect over the winter but I can't play anymore cos I ruined my back. I will start playing baseball again, though, that always helped me stay fit. Will let you know how I'll do ;) Quote
ImperialJohn Posted December 10, 2005 Posted December 10, 2005 I quit April 2005 :D If I keep it until (and beond) April 2006 my wife will buy me a Death Star :oo *wub* Quote
Hobbes Posted December 11, 2005 Author Posted December 11, 2005 I quit April 2005 :D If I keep it until (and beond) April 2006 my wife will buy me a Death Star :oo *wub* I just read that the first two years are the easiest (!), after that it's easier to "fall back" again. Figures, since I've started again after one and a half years twice. Point being, if you get a Death Star after one year what will you be getting after ten? :oD ;) Quote
Lost Viking Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 I quit 3 years ago! Lol jk, anyways great job guys! Quote
languages Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 The best way to quit is to never start..... Quote
xwingyoda Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 The best way to quit is to never start..... But if you never start, how can you achieve quiting ;) Quote
languages Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 The best way to quit is to never start..... But if you never start, how can you achieve quiting ;) Hmmm...you are to wise Yoda.... Quote
xwingyoda Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 The best way to quit is to never start..... But if you never start, how can you achieve quiting ;) Hmmm...you are to wise Yoda.... 900 years of practice you know :D :P Quote
Cutty Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 I admire all you ex-smokers for your discipline. Not that I needed any in the field of smoking...because I don't. In fact I'm a militant non-smoker at the very heart. It's true! I broke long lasting friendships over tobacco and marihuana...and many that is! So congrats to all of you, who defeated the addiction! And do never forget this: Tell smokers nearby if they bother you! They do not only harm them, but you, too! Smokefree greetings to smokefree people, Cutty btw: Quitting means you quit being a member of the "Fumascuncus Vulgaris" species... ;) Try to figure fun-latin out ^^ Quote
Hobbes Posted December 11, 2005 Author Posted December 11, 2005 In fact I'm a militant non-smoker at the very heart. It's true! Being a militant non-smoker IMHO is as intolerant as being a smoker. I know how it is when you're addicted and thus am not that harsh against smokers (and I mean addicts, not spare time smokers). Smoking is common here in Austria, so if I go to a bar or something I know that my clothes will smell. That's just how our society here "works". But non-smokers have demanded more anti-smoking laws lately... On the other hand I respected the non-smoking society when I visited the US for example. I know they are pretty strict over there so I acted accordingly. No problem for me. And just to be clear: prohibiting smoking "on the street" (meaning outside of buildings, which some people demand) is ridiculous! You inhale so much fumes (cars, factories etc.), smokers' smoke just makes up a tiny percentage of that. "The public" is there for everybody and doesn't belong to anybody special. And if you study ancient traditions (Indians, Actec, Asians, Africans, anywhere you want) - they all smoked, so one could argue that smokers where here first... Quote
dviddy Posted December 11, 2005 Posted December 11, 2005 And if you study ancient traditions (Indians, Actec, Asians, Africans, anywhere you want) - they all smoked, so one could argue that smokers where here first... You have to have people to smoke it before it can be smoked. One could clearly argue non-smokers were there first. Because no one came out of the womb smoking. prohibiting smoking "on the street" (meaning outside of buildings, which some people demand) is ridiculous! Why is that so ridiculous? It kind've destroys the whole 'non-smoking' establishment thing, when you walk up, and there's a gaggle of smokers standing at the door, and in order to go inside you have to walk through a cloud... Seems like common sense... But I guess here in Oklahoma, the smokers are pretty much outnumbered, so we tend to grow up abhorring the whole smoking thing. But it's great that so many of you have been able to quit. If you can keep it up, it's one of the most amazing accomplishments in the world! Kudos! <<DV>> Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 And just to be clear: prohibiting smoking "on the street" (meaning outside of buildings, which some people demand) is ridiculous! You inhale so much fumes (cars, factories etc.), smokers' smoke just makes up a tiny percentage of that. "The public" is there for everybody and doesn't belong to anybody special. I love that. You're like the first non-smoker who isn't condescending to those of us who do. Too many think the public sidewalk ban junk is A-Ok, while it's clearly insane. If you're going to ban "stinky" things, I'd go after old ladies who make me want to LITERALLY VOMIT from too much perfume. Quote
Hobbes Posted December 12, 2005 Author Posted December 12, 2005 You have to have people to smoke it before it can be smoked. One could clearly argue non-smokers were there first. Because no one came out of the womb smoking. Hehe, ok, I wasn't referring to the chicken-or-egg question, so let me rephrase: I meant that smoking has been accepted a long time ago... Why is that so ridiculous? It kind've destroys the whole 'non-smoking' establishment thing, when you walk up, and there's a gaggle of smokers standing at the door, and in order to go inside you have to walk through a cloud... Seems like common sense... Now, how often does that happen? Walk across the street behind a truck and you smell worse and inhale a lot more hazardous stuff than from a cloud of tobacco smoke... Quote
Hobbes Posted December 12, 2005 Author Posted December 12, 2005 I love that. You're like the first non-smoker who isn't condescending to those of us who do. Because I was a smoker once and I know how it is. I smoked a pack a day, some just out of habit but most of 'em were addiction. I know it can be like a disease. Too many think the public sidewalk ban junk is A-Ok, while it's clearly insane. If you're going to ban "stinky" things, I'd go after old ladies who make me want to LITERALLY VOMIT from too much perfume. Maybe because I don't mind walking through a cloud of tobacco smoke (;)), maybe because as a smoker I wasn't militant and respected other's privacy, but I know that smoking can be seen as sort of an invasion of others' privacy. But it can also be seen as an invasion of privacy if you "attack" a smoker when he smokes, especially in a place where it's not prohibited. I'm sure most smokers know how health-damaging smoking can[1] be, so leave it to them. As for the perfume: Oh man, tell me about it... [1] I know smokers who are in a lot better shape than non-smokers... Quote
Cutty Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 In fact I'm a militant non-smoker at the very heart. It's true! Being a militant non-smoker IMHO is as intolerant as being a smoker. I know how it is when you're addicted and thus am not that harsh against smokers (and I mean addicts, not spare time smokers). RANT! TAKE WITH CARE: I do consider myself a very tolerant person, SAFE FOR (as you mentioned) Smokers!. Be it religion, sexuality, choice of food (though missionary vegans and atkinsians piss me off at times...) I am very tame and easy to be with. But look above. What is strange about that list? Right! None of above choices do affect others in the process. Smoking does. And I will not care how much anyone (and be it the lovechild of great cthulhu and jesus christ himself!) plays apology-songs for poor cancerous smokers. The truth is: ANY smoker did one fine day PURPOSEFULLY DECIDE to start smoking for whatever reasons. He/She agreed thereby to being constantly filled with poisonous fumes, which will harm others, who are by that rationale NOT CARED ABOUT by the smoking party, and suffering long term damage beyond reasonable thought. The ridiculous claim smoking adds to some kind of "ars vivendi" or heightens the joy of living is totally incomprehensible to me! What could sucking on a potentially dangerous mix of chemicals possibly add to my quality of life? Does living nearby a nuclear plant or a sewage treatment facility add to my quality of life? So why the hell should smoking do?! Side-effects of this all people (be them smokers or not) have to suffer are, among others: cigarettes on the streets (the state pays solid Quote
dviddy Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 I meant that smoking has been accepted a long time ago... You know, human sacrifices were accepted a long time ago too... Perhaps we should bring those back? ;) Oh! How about religious crusades? Those were simply amazing, no? ;) Now, how often does that happen? Walk across the street behind a truck and you smell worse and inhale a lot more hazardous stuff than from a cloud of tobacco smoke... Here, where I live? Almost every restaurant, every shopping center, every store has a gaggle of smokers standing right outside the door smoking, because it's not allowed inside. Yes, I would like that outlawed. Smoke in the privacy of your own home/car. It doesn't kill me then. But smoke in front of the only access to my destination? Yeah right. Like I'm going to support that. And I don't know what kind've place you live in, but here we don't have hazardous car fumes all over the place. We don't have factory fumes polluting the skies. And comparing exhaust fumes with cigarette/cigar fumes is unreasonable. The average exhaust fume is harmless. Only rarely will you come across poisonous car fumes. Cigarettes on the other hand, poison the air one hundred percent of the time. And it's been proven that second-hand smoke is even more dangerous than the smoke inhaled by the smoker. And it's rude of me to want to protect my health from a blatant attack on my health, how? Yeah. Watch someone die of lung cancer. It's not pretty. And then remember, that was caused by those nice little things we all call "cigarettes." Enjoy it then. <<DV>> Quote
Hobbes Posted December 12, 2005 Author Posted December 12, 2005 RANT! TAKE WITH CARE:[boring rant snipped] *yawn* those arguments are so old I can't hear them anymore. Thus I won't argue, which wouldn't help anyways since you're intolerant... Quote
Hobbes Posted December 12, 2005 Author Posted December 12, 2005 You know, human sacrifices were accepted a long time ago too... Perhaps we should bring those back? ;) Oh! How about religious crusades? Those were simply amazing, no? ;) Uh, aren't you a little off-topic now? I won't go into comparing apples and oranges... And I don't know what kind've place you live in, but here we don't have hazardous car fumes all over the place. We don't have factory fumes polluting the skies. And comparing exhaust fumes with cigarette/cigar fumes is unreasonable. The average exhaust fume is harmless. LOL That last statement just made me crack up. You saying you'd suck an exhaust pipe?! Only rarely will you come across poisonous car fumes. Right, just every time you're near a car. Cigarettes on the other hand, poison the air one hundred percent of the time. Sure, and they're so powerful they're also the reason the ozone layer has a "hole"... And it's been proven that second-hand smoke is even more dangerous than the smoke inhaled by the smoker. Where's the problem then? Start smoking... And it's rude of me to want to protect my health from a blatant attack on my health, how? It isn't, the arguments used are those of a first grader... Yeah. Watch someone die of lung cancer. It's not pretty. I know. And then remember, that was caused by those nice little things we all call "cigarettes."Enjoy it then. Uh, you remember I mentioned I quit, right? Quote
Cutty Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 old does not mean illegit. and I am intolerant because there has not been one good pro-smoke argument in the last 23 years... so go figure who's got the better ground concerning the very presence of any form of argument. besides: intolerant does not mean unreflected! check a dictionary for proof! Quote
Kikuichimonji Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 I never started. And saved me a lot of money that way which I could spend on LEGO ;) Ever thought about it that way...? Quote
Hobbes Posted December 12, 2005 Author Posted December 12, 2005 Just to clarify: I just wanted to share my joy of getting a present from my g/f for something I did. If somebody wants to comment on that I'll gladly answer. Anything else I'll ignore, but you guys can go ahead... Quote
Cutty Posted December 12, 2005 Posted December 12, 2005 Uh, you remember I mentioned I quit, right? So, in the light of the quote provided in this post, why exactly are you trying to apologize for smokers? Without giving anything to us that at least vaguely resembles an argument that could hold content of worth? Quote
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