Tim Bit Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 (edited) Dakota walks over to the black suitcase to inspect it. Upon inspection she finds nicks in the metal. They look like screwdrivers marks or some other metal object trying to wedge open and find the content of the briefcase. She slaps on some rubber gloves she always keeps in her socks, takes out a bobby pin of hers, and begins wedging at the case to unlock it and discover its content. She is unsuccessful. She decides to take it with when she has better tools and will open it in the next chapter. It seems whoever shot him might have been after the contents of this case. I could possibly be mistaken since the screwdriver was found in his trunk. The murderer could have abandoned it in a hurry. Could you put some coffee on? Could we also check for finger prints on the screwdriver? Edited April 18, 2009 by Tim Bit
Zepher Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 I think its quite obvious what happened, He was shot and crashed then the killer removed the bullet. Would you pass be some tea please? Quite the observant one. Yes, I believe that is what happened. May I check what the front bumper damage of the car looks like?Draggy wheres the bathroom? I got to go. Nice tea. Quite the observant one. *Aside to Dokota* I believe that he has received some head damage from war. Be kind my dear. Very well, let us continue drawing conclusions. The suitcase is obviously trying to be opened by someone. That someone is either the man dead, or the killer. *Zachery starts to scribble in his notbook.* -Man dead was trying to open suitcase and ran off becuae he was found. Was shot becuase he stole it/person who killed him didn't want it opened/killer owned the suitcase. Possible motive? -Killer tried to open it after he killed the man. I think out of the two the first is more likely. THe chances that the killer tried to open it, and thenthrew the screwdriver in the trunk are not high. He would probaly just take them with him. Of course, it's possible that both happened, one after another. *Zachery takes another sip of is tea* What do you think of my thoughts gentlemen? Ladies?
Ricecracker Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Could I check what - if anything - is in the glove box?
NewRight Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 Could we also check for finger prints on the screwdriver? Timothy walks over to the screwdriver found in the trunk. He takes out his crime lab kit bought over the counter and begins to inspect the wrench. He notices no fingerprints and as he is going to test for other evidence a bird over head leaves a present directly on the handle of the wrench. Timothy ends up taking a shower at Dakota's. Could I check what - if anything - is in the glove box? Rafael walks over to the glove compartments when all the others are busy observing other parts of the car and dead man for and signs. In it he finds a dirty tissue and an odd key. It looks like it belongs to the briefcase. Upon trying the key he finds that he is unsuccessful. All members agree to just take the case back to Dakota's unless other evidence presents itself.
AwesomeStar Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 What do you think of my thoughts gentlemen? Ladies? Well sir, I for one heartily agree.
General Armendariz Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 May I check under the front seat and passenger seat? Well Zach, the first ones sounds much more likely *Takes a Bight out of one of the buns * The chemicals on the tire are probably acid the killer set up for him to run over, or to not let him get away.
AwesomeStar Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Yes! The acid must have caused considerable damage to the car tires (and wheels), causing the car to slide, slowing it down enough for the killer to shoot, sending the car out of control and crashing, explaining the damage to the car. Does that seem to make sense? Do we now know something about this?
NewRight Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 May I check under the front seat and passenger seat? General Axel walks over to the drivers seat and begins searching under the seat for any evidence. He does the same with the passenger seat. Unfortunately nothing turns up. Votes for who is leaving this mystery are now being accepted. The murderer of this game, and it could be you, will be released as each person dies. Each crime scene will be the cause of the murderer. Should the murderer die he/she will still be the source of the murder. To win the game: ~The mafia/detectives have to eliminate the opposite party. ~The winner in either category has to discover who committed the murder to win.
Jlblue Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Yes! The acid must have caused considerable damage to the car tires (and wheels), causing the car to slide, slowing it down enough for the killer to shoot, sending the car out of control and crashing, explaining the damage to the car. Sounds plausible to me.Come to think of it, the voting can't really be discussed as it is usually discussed. A near-even split alignment-wise... as even as it can get.
Darth_Legois Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 What do you think of my thoughts gentlemen? Ladies? I agree, Although who's to say the killer didn't want something from the briefcase and the Mr. Ditalini didn't steal it? Yes! The acid must have caused considerable damage to the car tires (and wheels), causing the car to slide, slowing it down enough for the killer to shoot, sending the car out of control and crashing, explaining the damage to the car. Does that seem to make sense? Do we now know something about this? I think that explains how he died but... why did he die? It seems the killer wanted something in the suitcase but didn't have enough time to pry it open. Also brown or black hair? That doesn't really help since most of us have brown or black hair.... *goes back to sipping tea*
Tim Bit Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Also brown or black hair? That doesn't really help since most of us have brown or black hair.... [/color]*goes back to sipping tea* Thank god I have blonde hair.
NewRight Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 Every member has brown or blackish hair from the hat fibers to actual hair color. I left it pretty much open to anything. More details limiting down suspects will be released in following weeks.
General Armendariz Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 And so it seems I solved the death. We Generals know are stuff when it comes to murder.
Adam Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 I would like to check behind the seats for any clues of some sort.
NewRight Posted April 19, 2009 Author Posted April 19, 2009 I would like to check behind the seats for any clues of some sort. After General Axel has checked under the seat Adam begins searching behind the seat. He can't seem to find any other clues. There is a blood stain and Adam takes a sample. He then tests it in his crime lab kit picked up at WalMart. He confirms that the blood is Mr. Ditalini's and there are no poisons in his blood or other obstructions.
Zepher Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 I'm sorry gentlemen. You think that the person who killed our good Mr. Ditilini knew where he would drive and planted acid of some form on the road, yet did not leave any trace of the acid on the road, have any other cars run over it, or leave a trace of himself being here? You honestly think that is true? Our dear prison friend would probaly not even believe that theory. Let's not go down that road gentlemen. Thank you. Next order of bisnuss is the voting. Who do we kill? This is didfferent for each one of us assuming we'e all on different sides. I simply ask each of you to consider to make way for myself in your little hearts. I myself am unsure who to vote off. Let us not kill anyone who may be useful later on, okay? Dokota, more tea please.
Ricecracker Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Can I check if there is any damage to the underside of the car. Would it also be possible to take a sample of the chemicals? On to voting. I believe that anyone that hasn't asked any important questions should be relieved of their duties. Let us remember all the events during the day, and make a calculated decision.
Dragonator Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Dokota, more tea please. Certainly Zach dear, I'll go fetch the pot. Now, this acid has me all suspicious. Why would it be there? I find the "left on the road and run over" theory to be very lacking, I mean, how can you leave acid on a road? It would just make a hole. Also, a fast-travelling car, even if it did manage to run over a puddle of acid, would not pick up enough to suddenly cause the tyres to disintegrate. Also note that the acid is only on one tyre, not both on one side or all four. Therefore that makes this theory impossible, so there must be some other explanation. Could I take a look around the car bonnet, and under it if that is possible, for a possible source of the acid?
Shadows Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Perhaps the acid was applied to the tire at a previous stop (by someone with brown or black hair?). The killer could then follow the boss and ambush him when the tire blew out. Problem is, what about all that damage to the front center of the car, as if someone had rammed it? Further, I am confused by the briefcase. Wouldn't the killer have taken it, if that was the goal? Why would they try to open it here, then return the screwdriver to the trunk? No, that makes no sense. Clearly, the boss took the briefcase from someone, tried to open it, failed, and was carrying it in the front of the car when the "accident" happened. Perhaps the force of hitting something (that caused the front damage) threw it forward out of the car? Which then circles us back to the acid. Why apply acid, then ram the car? It's almost like two seperate plots, but if either one was to steal/retrieve the briefcase, why leave it? I'm a bit lost on the clues here. The only thing that seems certain is that the killer was in front of the car when he (or she) shot the boss. That means he could have grabbed the briefcase, but didn't. That also means he wasn't likely to have been following behind the car, or he had time to get out, go around to the front and take the shot. That would also mean that whoever caused the front damage would have been right there as well, so clearly they were working together, or it was the one who caused the damage who did the shooting. I'm getting a headache, I think I need something stronger than tea.
Dragonator Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Perhaps the acid was applied to the tire at a previous stop (by someone with brown or black hair?). The killer could then follow the boss and ambush him when the tire blew out. Ah yes, a slow-acting acid, good thinking. If the acid was applied before the crash and was the cause of it though, then the killer can't have been waiting in one particular spot hoping the tyre would blow out at that second. Therefore the killer must either have been following/driving in front (?) or else the acid was applied afterwards, or perhaps has nothing do do with anything and is just a red herring. I think we have missed something here, it doesn't add up at all. Problem is, what about all that damage to the front center of the car, as if someone had rammed it?Further, I am confused by the briefcase. Wouldn't the killer have taken it, if that was the goal? Why would they try to open it here, then return the screwdriver to the trunk? No, that makes no sense. Clearly, the boss took the briefcase from someone, tried to open it, failed, and was carrying it in the front of the car when the "accident" happened. Perhaps the force of hitting something (that caused the front damage) threw it forward out of the car? That damage does indicate that the car crashed into something, so the question is, was it another car, or some sort of fixture. Could we please scan the crime scene for anything the car could possibly have crashed into? I agree that he must have hit something for the white briefcase to end up on the road, but I still don't see how the acid fits into this. Which then circles us back to the acid. Why apply acid, then ram the car? It's almost like two seperate plots, but if either one was to steal/retrieve the briefcase, why leave it? Precisely. Obviously the killer was not after what is in this black briefcase, nor were they after the money in the whit one. No, it must be that their intent was to simple kill the Mafia boss. As the screwdriver has been found in the trunk, that would indicate that it was the boss himself who was trying to open the briefcase, as no killer would be stupid enough to fail to open the case and then leave it there while opening the boot of the car and throwing in the screwdriver. Therefore the boss himself must have stolen the briefcase off someone, and what I want to know is, who? It can't have been from the person/people who killed him, otherwise they would have recovered the briefcase, therefore there must be another party involved here. It will be interesting to see what exactly this case contains. One other theory might be that the killer/s was after the briefcase but something/someone prevented him/her/them from getting it. But I can't see any evidence of this yet. I'm getting a headache, I think I need something stronger than tea. Try the red pot hun and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Now that I think about it, I could do with something strong too. All this analysing is hard work.
Darth_Legois Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 I think I might agree that the acid is a red herring Unless theres 2 killers like you mentioned or it was applied then the killer followed but yeah. I dont really see how the acid fits in other then those options....
General Armendariz Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Well if it couldn't be acid what ither substance could it be? It has to be something that burns/melts tires.
AwesomeStar Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) A red herring seems plausible. Aha! I've just had a brainwave. It seems we've established that Mr. Ditalini was shot, causing the car to crash. Would it be possible for someone to have been in a nearby window or such and have used a sniping weapon commonly found in the armed forces? If the murderer was in fact two persons, as some have said, the sniper could have done his job, then the second person could have applied acid to the tires, explaining the chemical and the brown/black hair we found. It seems to me that Mr. Ditalini had in fact stole the briefcase, attempted to open it with the screwdriver, thus explaining the marks, given up, put the screwdriver in the trunk of the car and then drove off. *Takes a crumpet and butters it* Could I check the crime scene for nearby buildings with sniping potential? Edited April 19, 2009 by AwesomeStar
General Armendariz Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Alfonso, your making so much solutions up I believe that YOUR the killer Its almost obvious that your trying to hide your cover without blowing it. It all comes together!
AwesomeStar Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 (edited) Alfonso, your making so much solutions up I believe that YOUR the killer Its almost obvious that your trying to hide your cover without blowing it. It all comes together! I believe I'm not the killer. I'm just coming up with more and more solutions... brainstorming, I believe it is called. Any, General, in my above theory I stated that a sniper could have shot Mr Ditalini. Sniper's are military men... Your a military man. Edited April 19, 2009 by AwesomeStar
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