Kanal-K1 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) So, finally I received 10193 Medieval Village. As it will take some time to me to translate review to English, you can take a pre-look on the Czech version here: http://www.kostky.org/forum/index.php?topic=19975.0 I will during the evening edit this first post and make a whole review. Anyway, I cannot post huge photos here, so you must follow the link above to see them. Later on, when my daughter will go sleep, I will have space to make photo of whole set scenery. 1. DECISION TO BUY Even if I am not a Castle fan, I was impressed instantly when I saw first pictures of this set and I decided to get it as soon as I can. Now I have it. 2. BOX UNPACKED Heavenly God, so many parts...around 18 bags with parts, two huge A4 instruction books. One for market stand and tan/reddish brown hammer mill, second for medium blue house. As the part bags are not numbered, I made a terrible mistake, when I put all the parts in one big paper box. Few hours later I thought myself, If I had to hell sorted it by colours.. 3. BUILDING, BUILDING, BUILDING OK, I will better disjoin whole building into main individual steps: 3.A - Animals Animals come ready to use, so more about them in next chapter.. 3.B - Figs Figs are assembled in five minutes, more about them in next chapter.. 3.C - Market stand Nice stand with rich assortment - 4 apples, 5 fish, 2 flowers, a table with cheese, bread, turkey. Build time 10 minutes 3.D - Weapon stand, horse cart, furniture Nice scenery add-ons, furniture to be used later on in a house. Build time 10 minutes 3.E - Tree Quite a big tree, little bit harder to build, as there is no connecting plate in the bottom and it disassembles easy. Nice idea with white flowers pinned to the plant leaves. Build time 10 minutes 3.F - Tan/reddish brown house The first house takes more time to build than the second one, around one hour. Building is anyway quite easy, in my opinion 8+ category. Only one what you must to take care on, is, the pearl gold colour. In instruction book colour seems like orange, and I wasted 5 minutes trying to find plates round 1x1 in this colour. Then I finally looked on the big photo on the box and I recognized the right colour:-) 3.G - Medium blue/reddish brown house Inner details of this house are easier than at first one, so build-up time was round 40 minutes. Easy building, 8 + 4. APPEARANCE WHEN BUILT-UP 4.A - Animals Animals come ready to use, so more about them in next chapter.. There is a plenty stuff in the box. One white horse, one light bluish gray rat, one green frog, five pearl light gray fish, two reddish brown cows. Now I can build up my own Animal Park:-). I forgot to mention one dark orange turkey, but, it is delivered "ready to eat", so in fact a dead animal I cannot count:-). What I really like, the light pink nose of those cows..BOOOOH... 4.B - Figs Maid in tan shirt- this fig is already known to me from Castle Calendar 7979. Anyway, nice, I want more of ladies in Lego sets at all.. Maid in green shirt - this fig is new for me, nice colour, nice grin, and new hair type...good job, TLC! Hunchback 2009 - this fig with cape is very similar to hrf008, one of my very favourite figures ever. New dark tan? dress and little modificated design, but, still it is a Hunchback! Father in dark tan dress with x67 hair type - nice figure too..Just the grin could have been bit more rough, I think in medieval village there hasn´t been so clean faces sightable... Child with short legs - child has even rougher grin than his father, he wouldn´t to buy him an apple? :-) Castle guard 1 - standard fig of 2008 Castle line, what else to say... Castle guard 2 - why this freaky grin? Seems he met somewhere in the house rooms naked Hunchback? Blacksmith - Cheers, this is finally a rough hard medieval guy like it should be! Devil face, mud clothes, give me more... 4.C - Market stand Very nice scenery, lot of useful parts, apples, fish, rat, turkey. I appreciate dark colours of the roof at the stand, looks much better then if used standart red or blue. 4.D - Weapon stand, horse cart, furniture Nothing special to be said to those small parts of whole set 4.E - Tree Tree looks very nice, it is a fresh wind when compared with standart prefabricated Lego trees... 4.F - Tan/reddish brown house I simply like this house. Outer view is perfect, water mill is very neat and under it you can even find a small green frog. I am not experienced builder, so I cannot say you some relevant opinion to used building techniques, see the pictures.. There are 4 chambers inside: : Downstairs right - hammer mill. Here you will find a blacksmith using his fireplace and hammer mill to make a new sword to the king. When you turn the mill wheel, it transponds power through a black propeller and some technic joints to a hammer, which strucks a sword on the anvil. Very nice function! Downstairs left - horse stables. Here you will find only horse, but, finally I know, why TLC gave two brown carrots to this sets. Instruction book leads you to place them as a shit onto the stables floor...:-)) Upstairs right - there is some dining room. One chair, one table with goblet, one tile stickered with a mans picture. In fact, this is the weakest room in the house. Table seems to me too big when compared with a room scale.. Upstairs left - Even if there is only a fireplace in this room, it is made with a perfect sense for detail. Behind the fireplace you can find chimney hole made from fence 4x1, even if you cannot see it after placing a fireplace to the room, you know, that there it is! When you open fireplace doors, you find a burning flames inside. Nice detail, wish I had have been in this room with a nice young medieval lady :-) 4.G - Medium blue/reddish brown house This house seems to me too asymmetric, colour combination is not mine cup of tea too. I don´t like big HP doors used in this house. But, at least, I must appreciate more realistic entrance to second floor, as you can simply use stairs. In first house, you have to fly:-) There are next 4 chambers inside: Downstairs right - my favourite room - a pub! Beer barrel, bar with three wine goblets, no need to go somewhere else in the house:-) Downstairs left - entrance door, you can place a guard there or whatsoever. Upstairs right - sleeping room with small chimney, maybe you will find a king with a queen making one of only two things suitable for cold winter evenings (I think, in medieval age they hadn´t used to play bridge yet) 5. PLAYABILITY Lot of animals, some figs, some moving elements (water mill, chimney door). But, despite all those facts, in my opinion classic castle set like for example famous 6086 is even much more playable for the kids..Maybe best way how to do is to buy 10193 for kids (OK, this you will tell your wife), and build it on your own (sadly, it hasn´t been exactly what the kids wanted) :-) 6. GENERAL IMPRESSION Frankly speaking, I am not so excited, as I expected. I am still missing something at this set. Maybe some more utensil, weapons, more figs, more small animals (bird)..If I compare, that at 6086 there was 12 figs and 4 horses to 569 parts, and at 10193 there are only 8 figs and 3 big animals to 1600 parts, I am not sure, if this is the right way. But, truth is, that those sets like 10182,10185,10193,10190 are issued more for AFOLs than for kids, to be used as a part source for great MOCs. Therefore I am pretty sure, that real Castle fan will enjoy this set. 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Pencoin Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Wait how did you get that set? It isn't out yet! Is Castle doing a Pirates? Quote
dj2005 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Thanks for the review, Kanal-K1. Just makes me want the set more. Quote
meschepers Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 I think I have a sneaking suspicion how he came across that set. I won't mention it here but I think I know. I must say that I am jealous but I can wait until it is released. This set does look amazing though! Quote
Kanal-K1 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 I think I have a sneaking suspicion how he came across that set. I won't mention it here but I think I know. I must say that I am jealous but I can wait until it is released.This set does look amazing though! I bought even two pieces on different auction sites here in Czech Republic. As there is a TLC factory, it comes for sure from there, but, I hadn´t broken any law buying it. I am not here to supply bad work of TLC´s security. Quote
meschepers Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Oh, sorry. That wasn't exactly what I meant. I had heard rumors that the Czech LEGO factory had serious security issues and that is where a lot of the leaks and "Early releases" were coming from. I apologize for the misunderstanding. The set looks incredible and I can't wait for your review to be finished. Quote
Kanal-K1 Posted November 9, 2008 Author Posted November 9, 2008 Oh, sorry. That wasn't exactly what I meant. I had heard rumors that the Czech LEGO factory had serious security issues and that is where a lot of the leaks and "Early releases" were coming from. I apologize for the misunderstanding. The set looks incredible and I can't wait for your review to be finished. Thats what I am speaking about. In fact, there is no security in Czech Lego factory, and nearly all unreleased sets are sold at Czech web sites long before official release. I made some steps in this matter, but seemed, that factory has no will to cooperate with police, so now I am not taking care about it anymore and I am buying what I find interesting. Quote
gladiator Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Thats what I am speaking about. In fact, there is no security in Czech Lego factory, and nearly all unreleased sets are sold at Czech web sites long before official release. I made some steps in this matter, but seemed, that factory has no will to cooperate with police, so now I am not taking care about it anymore and I am buying what I find interesting. The shocking pictures again... I jealous with you, Kanal-K1... congratulations for owned 10193 without broken any law Quote
Guss Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 you're so lucky ! now I just want this set even more! seriously it's a greaaatt set, and your review is really cool ! but I hate you, I want it too! Quote
Bricklanta Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 Will this be under $100 USD? If it's at a good price, I may buy it and use it with lego pirates. Quote
mania3 Posted November 9, 2008 Posted November 9, 2008 I was sitting here feeling a bit jealous for not getting this set yet. I've really been looking forward to it, but considering Blackbeard's Bounty and the Soldier's Fort are sitting next to me completed, I can't really complain. Along with the Pirates series, this new Castle set is one of my most anticipated of the new releases though. Thanks for posting the review! Quote
Dadster Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) As far as getting the set early - it happens. Thanks for the waaaaay early heads-up and review. I'm kinda surprised that the bags weren't numbered... I was def gonna buy this set and you've just reaffirmed my desire!! Edited November 10, 2008 by Dadster Quote
Zorro Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Great review, Kanal-K1. This is one of the only castle sets that actually interests me and I know for a fact this is so with a lot of other Pirates lovers as well! I only don't understand how it is possible Lego Castle made such progress while Lego Pirates lost so much of their former glamour (IMHO the new Pirates sets look good, but not good enough considering the time they had to develop them and to use new technology). Anyhows: fantastic work ! Quote
blueandwhite Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 I only don't understand how it is possible Lego Castle made such progress while Lego Pirates lost so much of their former glamour (IMHO the new Pirates sets look good, but not good enough considering the time they had to develop them and to use new technology). Honestly, it's taken a few years for Castle to crawl back to anything close to its former glory. Give the new Pirate line a few years to pick up steam. I mean, comparing the new line to sets like the BSB is setting the bar pretty darned high. Personally, I don't see alot of difference between the new Pirate line and the Castle line when it comes to set quality. Perhaps in a couple of years we'll end up seeing a UCS-style ship. I mean, how many of us saw the Market Village coming? Anyways, a great review. As a castle fan I've been waiting a lifetime for a set like this! Quote
Kanal-K1 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) (IMHO the new Pirates sets look good, but not good enough considering the time they had to develop them and to use new technology). I have the same feeling from new Pirates line. I remember those tremelous fun when I got first ship, 6274, in 1989. I enjoyed so, so, so, so much fun with it. New Pirates linre is.....how to say...in my view a weak attempt to revive the old glory. When I look onto new sets, I cannot imagine such pirates in real life. Colours are too mannered, design is more "toy-focused" than "realism focused"...When I saw first time 6274,6285,6286, my first thought was - "Wow, this is exactly how the right pirate/royal fleet ship should look like"... When I saw this new 2009 Pirate flagship, my very first thought was "OMG, floating circus".... Edited November 10, 2008 by Kanal-K1 Quote
kerbos Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 I bought even two pieces on different auction sites here in Czech Republic. As there is a TLC factory, it comes for sure from there, but, I hadn´t broken any law buying it. I am not here to supply bad work of TLC´s security. Of course that you broke laws. You can not buy things, if you know, that they were stolen. If you buy stolen things, you just support thiefs !! We should not glorify you here, but give you a BAN to show children visiting this forum what is and what is not normal behaviour. Quote
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 What a wonderful way to introduce yourself kerbos. Kanal-K1, thanks for your review, it has doubly convinced me to get at least one of these sets! This is an excellent set and definitely the best castle set we've seen in some time. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on a copy next year. Those cows aren't too bad once you get a coser look at them. Quote
Kanal-K1 Posted November 10, 2008 Author Posted November 10, 2008 (edited) Of course that you broke laws. You can not buy things, if you know, that they were stolen. If you buy stolen things, you just support thiefs !! We should not glorify you here, but give you a BAN to show children visiting this forum what is and what is not normal behaviour. Don´t take care about this guy, he is a newbie to Kostky.org, he already tried to blackword me there, but was deleted... Some people are simply corroded by failure, envy and hate. Edited November 10, 2008 by Kanal-K1 Quote
UsernameMDM Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Very cool. I can't wait to get this set. 2009 is going to be an expensive Lego year! Good thing I have a lot of old toys to sell. Quote
kerbos Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Don´t take care about this guy, he is a newbie to Kostky.org, he already tried to blackword me there, but was deleted...Some people are simply corroded by failure, envy and hate. Not my account, but the discussion about the origin of the set was deleted ! If you agree with Kanal, that it is good idea to buy and sell stolen Lego, you can contact Kanal and ask him about the second stolen set, which he mentioned in the deleted discussion.... If you have been robbed sometimes in the past, you know, what I feel and think... Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted November 10, 2008 Posted November 10, 2008 Thank you very much for the great review, Kanal-K1! Like already mentioned several times before this is really an excellent set and surely the bes Caslte set ever (until now)! :wub: The only thing which disturbs me is that there is no connecting plate on the bottom of the tree, that the stickers (even the ones for the little signs) are only for one side and that the interior of the first floor of the blacksmith' house is nearly empty. Otherwise it's awesome! :thumbup: I'm hoping for more set of this kind! Klaus-Dieter Quote
Cardinal Brick Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 An intresting review of a set I look forward to getting my hands on thank you for posting it. On the pirate issue which has come up think of these pirates as KK2 the first for a while and wait for the designers to get the magic back. Quote
Eurobricks Emperor Bonaparte Posted November 12, 2008 Eurobricks Emperor Posted November 12, 2008 Don´t take care about this guy, he is a newbie to Kostky.org, he already tried to blackword me there, but was deleted...Some people are simply corroded by failure, envy and hate. This is not the place to settle any disputes! Please use PM or MSN to discuss this between the two of you if you want. We cannot check the origin of each set and I don't want to get involved in any discussion which will be the word of someone against that of another. I've got not much to add to what I said, but if you want to discuss this further with me please use PM and let's stay on topic from now on! Thanks. Quote
Kanal-K1 Posted November 15, 2008 Author Posted November 15, 2008 (edited) This is not the place to settle any disputes! Please use PM or MSN to discuss this between the two of you if you want. We cannot check the origin of each set and I don't want to get involved in any discussion which will be the word of someone against that of another. I've got not much to add to what I said, but if you want to discuss this further with me please use PM and let's stay on topic from now on! Thanks. I agree, but, why you quote me? I really hadn´t been the one who started some dispute here...I just reacted onto blackwording of mine!!! Edited November 15, 2008 by Kanal-K1 Quote
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