Ultron Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I'd rather not have them go to Tatooine because it's really just a bunch of sand. There's nothing really interesting there. And I hate the desert. However, if it's just a short scene or two, I'd be okay. Tatooine is just always the slowest part of every movie....snore Quote
Faefrost Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 I don't think the appearance of Tatooine is enough to say that much about the movie so far; the planet did, after all, appear in all six OT and PT movies (and in the CW movie) and it seems like a natural inclusion to tie things together. 5 OT movies. It is skipped completely in Empire. Quote
Ultron Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 5 OT movies. It is skipped completely in Empire. Maybe that's why it's regarded as the best movie Quote
Fives Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Maybe that's why it's regarded as the best movie Why all this hate on Tatooine? I honestly consider it the most important planet in the series. It's where both of the mains heroes of the Star Wars universe came from, and it's where everyone kept getting drawn to in one way or another. I think, if handled tactfully, Tatooine could be a gold mine of storytelling opportunities. While on the topic of Tatooine, does anyone think it could make an appearance in Rebels? I've been thinking about it, and it would be ridiculously cool to see Ben while he's 'hibernating'. I would love to see Ahsoka return for a story arc or even full season in Rebels, and have her meet Obi-Wan on Tatooine. It's just such a bittersweet idea, and would be so interesting. Someone even came up with an idea for how an animated Ben would look, and I think it looks awesome. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/166/d/9/rebels_wallpaper__ben_kenobi_and_ahsoka__by_engelha5t-d691sg5.jpg Edited April 13, 2014 by Fives Quote
BrickG Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 Tatooine is fine but it's supposed to be a backwater place where nothing happens. Yet everything happens there now. It's in most Star Wars stories or games as a key place. It's practically Courosant (spelling) and seems to be the center of the universe. Quote
Ultron Posted April 13, 2014 Posted April 13, 2014 (edited) Why all this hate on Tatooine? I honestly consider it the most important planet in the series. It's where both of the mains heroes of the Star Wars universe came from, and it's where everyone kept getting drawn to in one way or another. I think, if handled tactfully, Tatooine could be a gold mine of storytelling opportunities. http://fc01.devianta...a5t-d691sg5.jpg I'm not doubting it's importance, but nothing exciting ever seems to happen there except for maybe the events in Return of the Jedi. Also, the geography and landscapes are dull and having to constantly stare at mounds of sand for prolonged periods of time tends to lose my attention. (Hence why I do not really care for A New Hope. Sorry everyone!) Given all of the other interesting planets, the fact that they keep choosing to go back to tatooine irritates me. Edited April 13, 2014 by Ultron Quote
The Legonater Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Nothing ever seems to happen on Hoth or Dagobah, except for during Empire Strikes Back. Nothing ever seems to happen on Naboo, except for during the Phantom Menace. Nothing ever seems to happen on Geonosis or Kamino, except for during Attack of the Clones. Just because a planet is quiet most of the time (and let's be honest, most of them should be) doesn't mean they're vital and important to the story. Quote
Artanis I Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 5 OT movies. It is skipped completely in Empire. The original trilogy now contains 6 movies? Quote
Brickdoctor Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 Maybe have Luke searching for something in the ruins of Obi Wan's Hut? Some long lost piece of Jedi lore? There can be a lot of thematic good to be had in returning to the beginning for the start of a new journey. So long as it is just that, and it is done well. That sounds kind of familiar to me. Was this idea used in a storyline between two of the OT movies? My first thought is that it might've been in Shadows of the Empire or in the beginning of the Jedi radio dramatization. I'm pretty sure the former and I know the latter included the more common bit of storyline in which Luke returns to Obi-Wan's hut to build his new lightsaber, but in addition to that, I remember reading/hearing at some point of Luke's returning to find some answer that Obi-Wan might've left behind as to what he should do with his mentor dead. On the other hand, that particular concept seems like it would make more sense set between Star Wars and Empire...I'm trying to review all the books I've read in my head right now... 5 OT movies. It is skipped completely in Empire. MegaBloks, I can't believe that that skipped my mind. Quote
Faefrost Posted April 14, 2014 Posted April 14, 2014 That sounds kind of familiar to me. Was this idea used in a storyline between two of the OT movies? My first thought is that it might've been in Shadows of the Empire or in the beginning of the Jedi radio dramatization. I'm pretty sure the former and I know the latter included the more common bit of storyline in which Luke returns to Obi-Wan's hut to build his new lightsaber, but in addition to that, I remember reading/hearing at some point of Luke's returning to find some answer that Obi-Wan might've left behind as to what he should do with his mentor dead. On the other hand, that particular concept seems like it would make more sense set between Star Wars and Empire...I'm trying to review all the books I've read in my head right now... MegaBloks, I can't believe that that skipped my mind. It's actually from an occasionally deleted scene in RotJ. Before going to Jabba's, Luke goes to Obi Wan's and finds the materials to build his new lightsaber. I'm sure a few of the early novels used the same trick. Quote
Fives Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 So this is some serious news. It seems that Lucasfilm is making some major changes in the world of the EU. You can read the official announcement here: http://starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page.html Basically, they are creating a new EU, which will encompass all new stories, books, comics, games and shows released under the Disney banner. The old EU is no longer considered to be part of any of the cannon, but are still going to exist under the name of Star Wars Legends. So, essentially, the 6 films, The Clone Wars, Rebels, the new trilogy and spin off films, and all upcoming books and other media are considered the real story, while everything else no longer exists in the spectrum of Star Wars canon. Quote
BrickG Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 This is old news that they re-announced for some reason. I guess there's a bit of new info? Dunno what it is though :P. Quote
CMP Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 We've known about that for a while. They don't seem to be much more specific about it. It looks like they're not opposed to using some EU ideas, though. Quote
Fives Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 This is old news that they re-announced for some reason. I guess there's a bit of new info? Dunno what it is though :P. Is this old news? Sure, everyone has been speculating the current state of the EU and where it stands within the Episode 7 story, but nothing was ever confirmed. This news, if I'm interpreting it correctly, confirms that while some sections of the EU may be used in the future, much of it will not be included, like larger story arcs and such. So things like the names of the Solo children, Jacen becoming Darth Caedus or the entirety of the Yuzahn Vong war may no longer be considered any kind of canon. The new books and movies to come out could introduce completely new events and characters that exist during the same time as the old EU stories, making the old ones obsolete. It will completely change the BBY/ABY historical timeline. Quote
Ultron Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 So does that mean that Boba is actually dead now unless they decide to bring him back in the movies? That's kind of confusing and frustrating because now everything I thought I knew never really happened? So as far as we know Shaak Ti never faced Starkiller and died on Felucia? At least not yet? (Sorry this is random, Shaak Ti is my favorite) Quote
The_Chosen_1 Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 The Yoda arc in the Clone Wars Lost Missions confirmed that Shaak Ti dies during the events of ROTS. As The Clone Wars is definitive canon, I'd rely on that. Quote
BrickG Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 The Yoda arc in the Clone Wars Lost Missions confirmed that Shaak Ti dies during the events of ROTS. As The Clone Wars is definitive canon, I'd rely on that. No it doesn't. The future is always in motion. A vision is not confirmation. Is this old news? Sure, everyone has been speculating the current state of the EU and where it stands within the Episode 7 story, but nothing was ever confirmed. This news, if I'm interpreting it correctly, confirms that while some sections of the EU may be used in the future, much of it will not be included, like larger story arcs and such. So things like the names of the Solo children, Jacen becoming Darth Caedus or the entirety of the Yuzahn Vong war may no longer be considered any kind of canon. The new books and movies to come out could introduce completely new events and characters that exist during the same time as the old EU stories, making the old ones obsolete. It will completely change the BBY/ABY historical timeline. It was confirmed. They officially had statements in the past about this. Which is why this re-announcement is odd. Maybe it was just to clarify and get more attention. Quote
Cube1701 Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 So does that mean that Boba is actually dead now unless they decide to bring him back in the movies? Boba Fett is a hugely popular and extremely marketable character. Of course he's going to survive and be back. I think this is the best thing they can do, as it means that they can create a new story rather than trying to adapt a book or fitting it in somewhere. Personally, I'm still classing The Old Republic era stuff as canon until anything contradicts it. The end of the era - Darth Bane creating the Rule of Two - is officially canon, and it's set back far enough that I don't think that anything Disney will do for quite a while will mess with it. It's also interesting that Revan was chosen as a promotional minifigure. It would be nice to know if The Old Republic will be made officially canon, as they're still making content for it. Quote
Brickadeer Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I've got a question. I remember that I have read the term "Lord of Sith" in a Danish or American Star Wars Comic in the 80s, probably in the first half of the 80s. As far as I remember, the term "Sith" wasn't specified. Rather, the information given in EP IV about Darth Vader was slightly enhanced: he wasn't just a mere "Lord", but a "Lord of the Sith". Does anyone know where and when the term "Sith" was introduced for the first time? Edited April 27, 2014 by Brickadeer Quote
Cube1701 Posted April 27, 2014 Posted April 27, 2014 From what I can find, the first published use was in the novel of Episode IV, however it was used in the original script and some marketing. Quote
Faefrost Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 I've got a question. I remember that I have read the term "Lord of Sith" in a Danish or American Star Wars Comic in the 80s, probably in the first half of the 80s. As far as I remember, the term "Sith" wasn't specified. Rather, the information given in EP IV about Darth Vader was slightly enhanced: he wasn't just a mere "Lord", but a "Lord of the Sith". Does anyone know where and when the term "Sith" was introduced for the first time? I think it first showed up in the original novelization and the press and character information provided by the studio when Star Wars was released. It was part of the description of the character, and probably was mentioned in the info given to the actors. Thinking back on it, I can't remember when or where the term first shows up as a line in the movies? Is it ever actually spoken before The Phantom Menace? It's another one of those weird Lucas throwaway things that the fans went and built a whole mythology around. (See: Fett, Boba) Quote
Artanis I Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 It was confirmed. They officially had statements in the past about this. Which is why this re-announcement is odd. Maybe it was just to clarify and get more attention. New upcoming books were announced? The statement is saying that everything that exists is null and void except what Lucas was involved in (movies & CW), and the SW franchise is rebooted. New movies, books, comics, TV shows etc will be regarded as canon. There will be no "EU" as such. That is my impression. Quote
Faefrost Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Is this old news? Sure, everyone has been speculating the current state of the EU and where it stands within the Episode 7 story, but nothing was ever confirmed. This news, if I'm interpreting it correctly, confirms that while some sections of the EU may be used in the future, much of it will not be included, like larger story arcs and such. So things like the names of the Solo children, Jacen becoming Darth Caedus or the entirety of the Yuzahn Vong war may no longer be considered any kind of canon. The new books and movies to come out could introduce completely new events and characters that exist during the same time as the old EU stories, making the old ones obsolete. It will completely change the BBY/ABY historical timeline. Think of it this way. Picture all of the EU in your mind. All the books, all the comics, all the sourcebooks and games. Now crumple it all into an enormous ball... Now label it "Alderaan" ... Quote
Cube1701 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Think of it this way. Picture all of the EU in your mind. All the books, all the comics, all the sourcebooks and games. Now crumple it all into an enormous ball... Now label it "Alderaan" ... But all that stuff exists and will still be published. How does a comment from Disney affect the quality of all this stuff or how enjoyable they are? Then again, I'm also a Star Trek fan, so I'm used to this. Quote
Darth Lurtz Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Cast revealed: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/29/star-wars-episode-vii-cast-announced Quote
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