Trexxen Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Good inquisitor, did you hear what I said earlier? If I were a witch, would I not be trying to get Martinus killed rather than myself? I defended him with my life - and I would still rather I be voted off than he; at least that would show that there is actual evidence for the person killed. I'd rather go out feeling good about my fellow citizens than go out later wishing they had kept our only means of information, faulty or no, alive... ~Bernard
Pickerel Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 [Joker hands Two-Face a gun and points it at himself] Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh, and you know the thing about chaos? It's fair. This is chaos! OOC: and I like it! I've already said the truth and have nothing else to say except boring words that I've already said. This is a mafia game, not politics! Some of you need to seriously listen to this! I Unvote: Charles/ Hinckley. Instead, I'm voting for : Vote: Cassandra/ Bob the Construction Man. You've voted and unvoted way to many times. Make your mind up already! ~Crazed Martinus! :skull:
Lego12 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Vote: Martinus/PickerelEven if he is not a heretic, he is getting in the way by leading us in different directions. With him gone, regardless if he is who we are looking for or not, we will be able to find the real ones that are a threat. You all need to leave Charles alone. I see no wrong that he has done, yet you all suddenly turn against him because the priest said to. (Who is also someone wee must keep a very close eye on...) -Henry Everything is crazy! Things keep changing all the time! I will Vote: Martinus/Pickerel, as my fellow soldier has also done. Martinus is lying and he's confusing everyone! So, Charles, what are the stats on the voting?
ptdapen Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Good inquisitor, did you hear what I said earlier? If I were a witch, would I not be trying to get Martinus killed rather than myself? I defended him with my life - and I would still rather I be voted off than he; at least that would show that there is actual evidence for the person killed. I'd rather go out feeling good about my fellow citizens than go out later wishing they had kept our only means of information, faulty or no, alive...~Bernard Oh yes, I have considered that. I am quite sure I have mentioned that I am unsure if my information is faulty, and maybe I'm just insane. However, I have also come up with a new suspicion that you are a witch and where trying to pretend that you where not trying to reveal it to the witches. In truth you would be telling the witches in secret Everything is crazy! Things keep changing all the time! I will Vote: Martinus/Pickerel, as my fellow soldier has also done. Martinus is lying and he's confusing everyone! So, Charles, what are the stats on the voting? Oh, it be a sad day when people do not even believe an inquisitor..
WhiteFang Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Although, my two men have cast their vote, but I will not choose to vote anyone yet until each story is affirm by the individual. It seemed everyone is changing stands as every minute passed. Now, it look more like a fish market... It's getting darker... How much time do we have left? Pardon me, Inquisitor... How sure are you that Bernard is the one we should be convincting.... You, as an Inquistor, have the power to witness the terrible and establish strong relevance whether that person is a heretic or not... Such vital information is let loose among them... How can we even trust the both of them.... Everyone of you, flush out those dark clouds inside your head and think logically.... Damn those heretics.... They are not only good in magic but even better to drag everyone's vote into confusion....
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Kneedeep in megablocks, the standings are: Martinus/Pickerel: 7 votes Me-Charles/Hinckley: 3 votes Cassandra/Bob the Construction Man: 2 votes Bernard/Trexxen: 1 vote This is batty! Something is clearly up with Bernard/The Inquisitor and Martinus. I'm sticking my vote with Martinus because of this post: Here's my final suspects list:Miguel's the Attacker with the shotgun Stash2sixx is a witch (he pmed me wanting to know the truth- I don't trust him) Adam is highly suspicious Alexander's a witch- attacked by a non-magic fellow- prime suspect Casandra and her husband are witches Please listen to this list very carefully once I'm dead! Martinus will still live in your memories! It just seems like the last desperate move of a guilty man. However, none of the three of them are telling the same story, so one or two of them are clearly lying to us. It takes 11 votes to convict and since a day lasts four days we have about 24 hours left until 24 hours is up, capiche? And what of Miguel? If Martinus is the torturer, Miguel must be the attacker, yet the Inquisitor seems to say that Miguel works for him. I find that very strange. In other games that Tiny Pius has run, people who show up late were seeing to night actions. I believe this is the same trend. Miguel and Martinus were responsible for last night's events. Miguel is avoiding the vote by flying under the radar...whatever that is.
ptdapen Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Huh, did I say Miguel is one of my workers? Oh, that is not true at all. I just said that I suspect he was the one who attacked the Father, whether he had good intentions or not. But I will speak in the defense of my informant, Martinus. I think we can all tell that he's a very ignorant, yet efficient, man. He forgets the results of his torturing, so he's clearly confused on how to defend himself now. I believe he is correct about Miguel being the gunner. Hernan may be suspicious, since he's been wanting everyone to reveal themselves. Phillip is not suspicious in my eyes, yet. Perhaps just some random blabbering from my informant. Alexander is definitely under my watch. But it could go either way with him. Cassandra has been the most changed person I've ever seen.. she needs to decide what she wants. Who was her husband again? Miguel? Finally, on the subject of Bernard... I am afraid that he may have just been pretending to hide my deeds at night, but in truth he would tell the other heretics at night. However, I'm not exactly sure.. perhaps I'm losing my touch.
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I see. So, Inquisitor-Fernando, is it?-I'm too lazy to open the thread in a new window and check. If you had to vote right now, who would you vote for?
ptdapen Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I see. So, Inquisitor-Fernando, is it?-I'm too lazy to open the thread in a new window and check. If you had to vote right now, who would you vote for? If I had to, I would probably vote for Bernard or Miguel. However, its very vague.. I would like to see his side of the story. Bernard has already raised suspicion, but Miguel may prove to be the better person to get rid of. Anyways, both of them are viable in my opinion.
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I'm interested to see what Mustafa makes of all of this...
Dragonator Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I'm interested to see what Mustafa makes of all of this... So am I... Oh wait, that's me. Now, the Inquisitor has changed everything that I thought. I will get on to what he said in a moment, but first... Are you all mad!! The Inquisitor comes out and confirms that Martinus is the town torturer, the only person who can truly discover the heretics, and you all immediately vote for him without even considering a single fact? You're all crazy! Right, I've got that over with. Now to look at what has been said, and what options we have. First of all, I think it is very unwise for us all to be voting for Martinus, as he is the only person that can truly find the heretics if what the Inquisitor says is true. Therefore with out much better evidence, I feel that this is a very silly thing to do. There are a few scenarios that I think are possible at the moment. 1. The Inquisitor has told the truth; Martinus is the torturer, and Bernard is a heretic. I find this the most likely option under the circumstances (more on that later). 2.The Inquisitor is telling the truth, however Martinus is lying to him and is a heretic, and Bernard is a citizen. I don't feel this very to be very likely however, never before have I ever heard of a witch who reports to a citizen for their night action. Then again, it is possible. 3. The Inquisitor is telling the truth; Martinus is a citizen, and Bernard is also a citizen. (The only way this could happen would be if Martinus is a "lousy cop", a citizen who can find out a persons affiliation but always gets it wrong. I am not sure if this role is one that is very likely to have been included however.) 4. The Inquisitor is lying, Martinus is a heretic and Bernard is a citizen. 5. All three are witches, and an internal power struggle is going on. Now, looking at what has been said, I would think that option 1 is the most likely. This is for the following reasons. If the Inquisitor were to lie, then we would soon discover it the next day when we voted somebody off. Next, it is consistent; it agrees with both Bernard and Martinus. I also find it very unlikely that all three are witches. I am very much inclined to believe what the Inquisitor has to say, simply because I don't think he would be stupid enough to lie at this moment. This is what I think we should do. All things considered, Bernard is the person we should vote for. We have plenty of evidence pointing to him, and he is definitely a much safer choice than anyone else. If in the unlikely chance that he is a citizen, then we will know that we must vote Martinus and possibly the Inquisitor off after him. However, I do not believe that Bernard is a citizen, no from what the current evidence suggests. The Inquisitor and Martinus would not be stupid enough to say it if it were not true. As for what Bernard had to say in his defence, it sounded to me like the sort of thing a witch would say to try and make themselves seem less suspicious. Yes I know I'm being judgemental on this particular point, but in the circumstances, if he were a citizen, then I feel that he would have reacted differently. There is just to much evidence pointing to him for me t even consider voting for anyone else, in all honesty. If we vote for Martinus on the other hand, then we have a problem. Either he is a witch, which with the current evidence I highly doubt, or he is indeed the torturer, in which case we will greatly regret our decision. No, instead, it would be better to vote Bernard off and find him innocent (which I don't think will happen), and then vote for Martinus, than vote Martinus off first and find him to be innocent. I understand that many of you are unhappy with the consistency of what he has said, but I believe that this is because he at first wanted to hide who he was, for fear of the witches. And rightly so. Now Charles, you make a good point about his "list". It does appear to be the sort of thing a guilty man might say, but then, he was one vote away from death, and I think that he wanted to get his thoughts out for us to consider before he died. In all honest I don't agree with anything he says in that list really, as I don't see any evidence for most of it, and there is still the possibility that he is a witch. However I do not think that we should be risking someone who could possibly be our town torturer and our only hope of salvation simply because he has got the wrong end of the stick on interpreting a few things. So, if we vote off Bernard, then either way, whether he is a witch or a citizen, we will gain something from it. If he is a witch, which I think is what he is, then all will be good, however if he is a citizen, then we will know that Martinus is a lying witch and so possibly is the Inquisitor. By voting for Bernard, we are certain to gain something, however by voting for Martinus, we either get a witch or lose our most valuable player. We must play this safe, otherwise will have no hope of prevailing over the heretics. Therefore, because I believe in my theory, I am going to, as promised earlier, cast my vote, now that the Inquisitor has had his say. I would like to Vote: Bernard (Trexxen). I strongly urge the rest of you to do the same. I have given this some deep thought, and I am certain that I am right. However, if in the unlikely chance that Bernard is a citizen, then the mere fact will be enough for us to condemn Martinus and possibly the Inquisitor, although I would want more evidence for him. Otherwise we risk losing the torturer, which is just silly. Now that we have got the whole Bernard-Martinus-Fernardo thing cleaned up, I would like to move on to Charles and Alexander. With this information from the Inquisitor, I am glad to say that I am now more inclined to believe that both of these people are citizens, although I do think that we should look into it a bit more, as I am not certain. I understand that you both get on each other's nerves, but you must learn to work together if we are ever to overcome these heretics. There is still the possibility that one of you is a heretic, and we should look into it more at a later date, but for now I am content to leave you and focus on the more pressing matter of Bernard and Martinus etc. I hope that you both prove me right and that you are indeed both citizens. After all of that, I would quickly like to mention the other people that have come to my attention throughout the day. Miguel most certainly was up to something last night, and it is possible that he was the one that went after Alexander, however there is no evidence for it at the moment other than that he turned up late. I do think that particular matter needs to be cleared up soon however. After him, there are a few other people, however I do not currently see anything which could possibly point to them being witches at the moment, so I will leave off commenting on them until some sort of evidence comes up. Now I need another strong whiskey...
Darth_Legois Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Fine, You convinced me Mustafa Unvote: Hinckley/Charles [ ] Vote: Bernard/Trexxen [ ] [You got away this time stinklyCharles! ] BTW, What time is it?
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Now that we have got the whole Bernard-Martinus-Fernardo thing cleaned up, I would like to move on to Charles and Alexander. With this information from the Inquisitor, I am glad to say that I am now more inclined to believe that both of these people are citizens, although I do think that we should look into it a bit more, as I am not certain. I understand that you both get on each other's nerves, but you must learn to work together if we are ever to overcome these heretics. There is still the possibility that one of you is a heretic, and we should look into it more at a later date, but for now I am content to leave you and focus on the more pressing matter of Bernard and Martinus etc. I hope that you both prove me right and that you are indeed both citizens. I have apologized to Alexander, actually and no longer suspect him. After I apologized he threatened the whole town with hell if they didn't vote for me. I'm just stating facts, now. But I would like to die to see how he would deal with my innocence after proclaiming my death is God's will... [You got away this time stinklyCharles! ] Actually, I got away last time too, so the correct thing to say would be, you got away again, Stinckley (with a c and a k and an e) and thank you for the observation, I have showered now. Unvote: Martinus/Pickerel Vote: Bernard/Trexxen If the Torturer actually beats people until they become a witch, I'll be sick to my stomach for changing my vote... although that seems incredibly far-fetched. So, the stats are now Martinus/Pickerel: 5 votes Bernard/Trexxen: 3 votes Me-Charles/Hinckley: 2 votes Cassandra/Bob the Construction Man: 2 votes I wonder why more people aren't voting for Miguel as people appears to believe he has the ability to kill people at night...
Dragonator Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 If the Torturer actually beats people until they become a witch, I'll be sick to my stomach for changing my vote... although that seems incredibly far-fetched. If that turns out to be true, then we can easily get him tomorrow. I am very confident with my conclusion however, I think that I've made the best choice under the circumstances. I am of course open to suggestions if somebody sees something I've missed. I wonder why more people aren't voting for Miguel as people appears to believe he has the ability to kill people at night... That is a point, I think that with everything else that has been going on, nobody has been paying much attention to him. We will definitely look into him once we have all this other business cleared up however.
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 That is a point, I think that with everything else that has been going on, nobody has been paying much attention to him. We will definitely look into him once we have all this other business cleared up however. Well, if he succeeds tonight, "we" will be one less when it all clears up. Alexander says he can protect people at night and so can one of the guards. I think Alexander should be protected again and perhaps Alexander can protect Martinus...
Dragonator Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Well, if he succeeds tonight, "we" will be one less when it all clears up. Alexander says he can protect people at night and so can one of the guards. I think Alexander should be protected again and perhaps Alexander can protect Martinus... That could be true, but to be honest, I find this theory a bit unlikely. First, I do not think it would be so easy for the town people to be turned, one every night. If that were to happen, then we could be beaten in the first few days, depending on who got voted off etc. Second, I find it very unlikely that they would be turned in such a manor, by being beaten into it. That would be much to obvious, especially since then Martinus would report to the Inquisitor who he had turned... Sorry, but I just don't think that theory makes much sense. Why would all three who were involved be so open about it if Bernard was being turned? If what you say were true, then all three would have to be witches, and then coming out about it all like they did would just be plain stupid. No, I don't think that this theory is what happened, but it was an option worth considering.
Hinckley Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 That could be true, but to be honest, I find this theory a bit unlikely. First, I do not think it would be so easy for the town people to be turned, one every night. If that were to happen, then we could be beaten in the first few days, depending on who got voted off etc. Second, I find it very unlikely that they would be turned in such a manor, by being beaten into it. That would be much to obvious, especially since then Martinus would report to the Inquisitor who he had turned...Sorry, but I just don't think that theory makes much sense. Why would all three who were involved be so open about it if Bernard was being turned? If what you say were true, then all three would have to be witches, and then coming out about it all like they did would just be plain stupid. No, I don't think that this theory is what happened, but it was an option worth considering. I told you it was far-fetched. My big worry is Miguel and his potential ability to kill...
Dragonator Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I told you it was far-fetched. My big worry is Miguel and his potential ability to kill... Yes, it is worrisome, however we do not have any sort of real evidence against him yet, other than that he turned up late, which is why I thought we should focus on Bernard and Martinus first. For all we know, Bernard could be the night killer... But then, so could anyone else.
Darth_Legois Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Actually, I got away last time too, so the correct thing to say would be, you got away again, Stinckley (with a c and a k and an e) and thank you for the observation, I have showered now.I wonder why more people aren't voting for Miguel as people appears to believe he has the ability to kill people at night... True. Appears...Doesnt mean he does... That is a point, I think that with everything else that has been going on, nobody has been paying much attention to him. We will definitely look into him once we have all this other business cleared up however. If we survive the night. I told you it was far-fetched. My big worry is Miguel and his potential ability to kill... So is there any proof he can kill? For all we know, Bernard could be the night killer... But then, so could anyone else. Well thats helpfull..... Im sticking with my vote [Aghh I hope I dont have to change my mind again]
Dragonator Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 So is there any proof he can kill? No, and that's why I have been reluctant to go after him so far. As I have said, the only evidence that counts against him is that he arrived late. The other two both arrived late because of night actions, which means it is likely he has some sort of night action. However I don't really think that this is enough to convict him. For all we know, he could have been using his night action for good. There is some suspicion of him however, so perhaps something else will come up over night, and we can look into it tomorrow. As for surviving the night, we must try not to think of our own mortal lives, but rather of the life of the town. It is an unfortunate fact, but some of us are going to die before this is over, we must try and make sure that every single one of those deaths is not in vain. If somebody dies tonight, then hopefully we will be able to make something of it. Personally, I just hope that we manage to avoid another death like we did last night, but it is unlikely...
Shadows Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 *Alexander steps out of the shadows, where he has been listening* This has all been very interesting, and enlightening to me. Mustafa, you speak with a wisdom and persuasiveness I'm not used to being on the receiving end of, but I think I appreciate the clarity of your mind in this matter. I am going to have faith that you are a servant of God and follow your lead. Unvote: Charles / Hinckley Vote: Bernard / Trexxen I agree that killing Martinus would be the wrong order to go in. As a matter of fact, I believe that based on the way I understand this game ... of life ... that any communication between Martinus and Inquisitor passes directly through God, who is the only one we can trust. I do not believe that God would relay a lie. Therefore, if Bernard is innocent, then it has to be our own Inquisitor who is misleading us, though I hate to even think it. Killing Bernard will answer this. I will admit that I expect the possibility of another attempt on my life, I also fear for the safety of Martinus and the Inquisitor until this matter is cleared up, since any of us could be attacked by friend or foe, confused by the incredible turns this day has taken. I would ask that any vigilant minded good citizens try to restrain themselves this evening, so we aren't further confused by their actions. I would also ask that the witches drop dead and go to hell. Please. You know, it never hurts to be polite.
Bob Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Unvote: Martinus/Pickerel Ill be watching you...Vote Bernard/Trexxen His winning streak isnt making to much of a comeback.
Adam Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 Mustafa and Alexander have all struck good points, and I agree that it would be more useful to kill Bernard now than Martinus. We can deal with the "torturer" later, but more truths shall be revealed by this action. For instance, the Inquisitor's role in this game... of life. And that is why I unvote: Martinus/Pickerel (whom I'll be keeping a close eye on) and vote: Bernard/Trexxen.
Lego12 Posted October 24, 2008 Posted October 24, 2008 I agree with Mustafa completely. Unvote: Martinus/Pickerel Vote: Bernard/Trexxen Sorry Bernard, but you seem like the likely suspect......
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