Victorian House windows

[Norrington]

He all. Been a while since I posted here, isn't it?

Anyhow, Recently I've been working in LDD on a replica of this beautiful house MOC:

Then I saw this interpretation of one of the classic brown brick mansions so common in industrialized cities like Detroit and Duluth:

I was build the first house in dark blue, white, and tan. I think I got the window design down, but now I'm thinking of replicating this manor house, Disney's Phantom Manor:

But now I don't know how to do a window with curved window frames like this:

http://www.happy-haunts.com/spgm/index.php...pgmFilters=#pic

And, it must be possible in LDD.

Thanks.

[AgentRick]

You could try putting a 1x4 arch brick behind a 1x2x3 window brick make a facade like on the green grocer.

[Norrington]

I tried that, but I don't want it really bulky like Green Grocer. I was thinking maybe using snot to use wedge plates.

[Admiral Blockbeard]

I would check out Aliencat's Brickshelf, it could help with the stone work!

regards Cpt. PB

[Norrington]

I have seen Alien Cat's stuff, but the main house isn't stone. It's gray wood with reddish-brown accents. Though of course, I could do that snot plate technique for the siding and the stone-work techniques for the foundation and chimneys.

[Norrington]

I have seen Alien Cat's stuff, but the main house isn't stone. It's gray wood with reddish-brown accents. Though of course, I could do that snot plate technique for the siding and the stone-work techniques for the foundation and chimneys.

[Dennimator]

Or you could use these two pieces with this on the top. I´m pretty sure that you can use them in LDD too, because you can buy them at Lego.com´s PAB.

[Norrington]

Or you could use these two pieces with this on the top. I´m pretty sure that you can use them in LDD too, because you can buy them at Lego.com´s PAB.

Well, that's what I want to do, but then have a brown moulding and frame that goes around it, like in the pic I linked.

[zeki]

simply pu car mudguard on the top of the window...it looks great...

[Guss]

what do you mean by Mudguard ? wich piece ?

[Aliencat]

what do you mean by Mudguard ? wich piece ?

That would be this piece:

And that was exactly the piece I was thinking about when I saw this picture. I'm not sure what colours it's available in in LDD, but let me find this out. I don't think it's available in brown but I think dark red would be the best colour in this case.

Let me tinker around a bit and get right back to you.

Edit: here's how I would do it (done in LDD to make sure these parts are available in these colours)

Of course you can alter that any way, use two windowframes on top of eachother instead of one, to make a higher window, or simply put the mudguard higher over the window to be able to add some ornaments in between, like Café Corner has.

Edited September 15, 2008 by Aliencat

[Guss]

that's a smart use of such a piece ! cafe corner windows are done with this technique ?

[Aliencat]

that's a smart use of such a piece ! cafe corner windows are done with this technique ?

As can be seen in this picture, Café Corner uses a similar technique, but with the mudguard higher above the window, so that the window can actually open. and an ornamental gargoyle (well... frog really) in between.

After checking out this picture that Norrington posted however, I put the mudguard right on the window, and I would maybe add another windowframe under that to make it tall like in the picture.

Edited September 15, 2008 by Aliencat

[Stash2Sixx]

Hey Norr,

The green house was built by a buddy of mine here in Chicagoland. You saw that house at an NILTC show I'm guessin'? Shoot me a pm with your email and I will make sure he gets your message! I figure the best way to get the info you need is to get it from the source.

[kaitain]

Hi All,

Having seen this thread I decided I should stop lurking and create myself a Euro bricks account. I'm currently working on a haunted house scene which recreates "Phantom Manor" at Euro Disney, along with a church and other bits and pieces.

Here's the link to my Picasa web album, showing WIP photos.

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/kaitain2008/...dHouseSceneWIP#

I'm not sure how to embed photos directly from my album. Maybe I should set up a flickr account as well.

I'm a member of the Brickish Association in the UK, and the finished scene will be displayed at Steam this year. I'm still building bits and pieces for the grounds and the furniture for the interior of the manor, but the church is now complete. The manor has lighting on all floors and around the veranda on the ground floor, so looks suitably spooky when its dark.

I'll post some more pictures in the run up to Steam, and loads more after the event.

All suggestions on how to improve this are welcome as its my first big display MOC, and only my 4th since I came out of my dark age about 18 months ago.

Regards

Kaitain

[Guss]

I think you will have a lot of success with this display, it really looks nice, and with my low moc skills, I really have no Idea how you can improve it !^^

[kaitain]

Ok I've found out how to embed images from a Picasa Web album. Here are some of the better images that I've uploded so far.

Two views of the Manor (64 x 64 stud base)

The Church (32 x 48 stud base)

The Disney concept sketch that the final layout will be based on

The windows are a bit of a cheat as I'm not really up to speed on SNOT techniques. I used two sets of arches joined back to back with jumper plates to allow them to be mounted in a one stud wide wall. The outer facade is brown, and the inner light gray to match the walls. The landscaping around the manor has improved dramatically since these early photos (there is now a small shed on the back!), and it now has an interior complete with spiral staircase. The furniture is still WIP.

TTFN

Kaitain

[Guss]

the church really looks like the drawing, but why didn't you used curved pieces for the sides windows ?

[kaitain]

the church really looks like the drawing, but why didn't you used curved pieces for the sides windows ?

Simple I didn't have enough 1x2x8 Arches in the old light grey!

I used all I had left on the porch under the bell tower (including two from my Hogwarts Castle kit). The problem with the method I have chosen is the stressing on the smaller arch at the top by the 1x1 cylinders.

[Guss]

simple I didn't have enough 1x2x8 Arches in the old light grey!

Ahah ! running out of pieces ! ^^ bad luck :/ sadly, it happens to everyone

[Norrington]

Hey Norr,

The green house was built by a buddy of mine here in Chicagoland. You saw that house at an NILTC show I'm guessin'? Shoot me a pm with your email and I will make sure he gets your message! I figure the best way to get the info you need is to get it from the source.

Actually, I saw it on Brickshelf. Never actually been to a LEGO show. I've seen some TWINLUG member's models in a display case around here though.

Simple I didn't have enough 1x2x8 Arches in the old light grey!

I used all I had left on the porch under the bell tower (including two from my Hogwarts Castle kit). The problem with the method I have chosen is the stressing on the smaller arch at the top by the 1x1 cylinders.

Welcome. I Kaiten. I will say, it's funny you should post that Harper Goff concept art (yes, I'm EB's resident Disney-phile). I like your interpretation of PM's facade. One thing: I'd switch the old gray walls to mixed dark grey walls, prefereably mixed in with bley, so it has that weathered appearence. The brown could be mixed too. I'm building as it might have appeared in it's glory days (and, it's design is based on the haunted house first posted here, but that's because I think he based it off of PM because based off of Ray Keim's Paper model, the walls are even on the same layout as PM's.

I'm also not sure about that mudgaurd technique, as they are not avalable in white in LDD (I think. I checked all the categories and they're not in there.).

I'm thinking I'll experiment with some other Ideas.

[kaitain]

Welcome. I Kaiten. I will say, it's funny you should post that Harper Goff concept art (yes, I'm EB's resident Disney-phile). I like your interpretation of PM's facade. One thing: I'd switch the old gray walls to mixed dark grey walls, prefereably mixed in with bley, so it has that weathered appearence. The brown could be mixed too. I'm building as it might have appeared in it's glory days (and, it's design is based on the haunted house first posted here, but that's because I think he based it off of PM because based off of Ray Keim's Paper model, the walls are even on the same layout as PM's.

Hi Norrington, the walls are a bit of a mixture even though it doesn't show it on the picture as the majority of my grey is second hand. I was planning on putting foliage on the broader areas to hide some of the grey wall syndrome. Also the original is horizontal wooden boarding so random greys might make it look like a stone building. As for Ray Keim's paper model, that's where I got the inspiration to build my lego version, as I dabble in card modelling as well. Ray's model is sitting on the dinning room table waiting to be completed. I did email him about the design of the manor to see if Disney had ever come up with a room layout, to which he responded that they only designed the shell. So I designed my own interior, and made the building modular so that you can view the insides. I need to take some newer pictures as there have been a few changes since my last upload, including the aforementioned lighting.

Regards

Kaitain

[Norrington]

Hi Norrington, the walls are a bit of a mixture even though it doesn't show it on the picture as the majority of my grey is second hand. I was planning on putting foliage on the broader areas to hide some of the grey wall syndrome. Also the original is horizontal wooden boarding so random greys might make it look like a stone building. As for Ray Keim's paper model, that's where I got the inspiration to build my lego version, as I dabble in card modelling as well. Ray's model is sitting on the dinning room table waiting to be completed. I did email him about the design of the manor to see if Disney had ever come up with a room layout, to which he responded that they only designed the shell. So I designed my own interior, and made the building modular so that you can view the insides. I need to take some newer pictures as there have been a few changes since my last upload, including the aforementioned lighting.

Regards

Kaitain

I was also going to say that in addition to dark gray, using tiles and 90 degree angle modified bricks.

And it seems that we have another HM fan. I do sometimes sraw and above veiw of some of the HM's and PM. The good thing is, there's no definet floor plan, as the facade, even if it was real and to scale, the curves and angle of the HM track is impossible. The good thing is, on most of the facades, there's one wall that we don't see, and hence, things like WDW'sm music room could feasibly on the back wall.

I'd just lay out the rooms that we see in the attraction in a way that works.

[kaitain]

Well my interior, isn't a copy of the ride, but rather treats the facade as an actual building. The ground floor has a entrance hall, study, lounge, kitchen and dinning room, with a connecting corridor down the middle to a spiral staircase against the back wall. Making everything fit given the positions of the doors on the facade was a pain to start with.

The 1st floor has a landing, bathroom, and 3 bedrooms. The stairs carry on up into the attic which is open plan except for the tower room.

Regards

Kaitain

[Norrington]

Well my interior, isn't a copy of the ride, but rather treats the facade as an actual building. The ground floor has a entrance hall, study, lounge, kitchen and dinning room, with a connecting corridor down the middle to a spiral staircase against the back wall. Making everything fit given the positions of the doors on the facade was a pain to start with.

The 1st floor has a landing, bathroom, and 3 bedrooms. The stairs carry on up into the attic which is open plan except for the tower room.

Regards

Kaitain

I know it isn't. With the ride's track curves, it would never fit in a ouse of PM's size. I mean putting the rooms/scenes from the ride in as though it was a real house.