LL1982 Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) My take on the NS2205 diesel-electric locomotive. They have been issued in 1955 and in use until 1985 I believe and then some years in service here and there but all retired around 2000. It was issued in brown and yellow/grey. Though I would prefer brown as a challenge, I seriously lack those parts and I went for what i had on stock. There is also a different locomotive from the same era that I may want to build in the future in similar brown livery. I've been busy with this one for some weeks on and off. Waiting for parts, changing concepts, changing my mind again and do it else. I build it 7wide to get a bit more detail in it but still make it manageable on our R40 layout and not become too big compared to the standard sets. I used a dimensioned drawing online to scale it, though the height is a bit adjusted for the hub and then as consequence the cab is also a plate or two higher. The PU HUB is a separate block in the engine that can be taken off, I added a push button to activate it and the front section has a technic brick with a transparant 1x1round so I can its status. Nice that the locomotive had a top front light also. The trucks were a bit of a challange in 7wide and then not using the lego side panels for the motor. In the end I found a design of Ties (open-l-guage) that I modified to fit my train. Though the original locomotive that tracks are all black or browned by rust and dirt, but I found it looked better with a DBG trim and black details / underside. I am sill not happy but for it works until I figure out a better way. I still need to find some replacement parts to get the right colour for my hinges and I want to put the logo and id number on it. The original: There are some more shots on my flickr page and my IG also has the in progress shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/201059867@N08/ Edited June 26 by LL1982 Quote
idlemarvel Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Very good model of the prototype. The colour scheme works well. Can you get rid of the layer of grey underneath the yellow walkway? Or is that an essential part of the bogies? I like the use of all those ingots for the grills. Quote
PossumPatrol Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Nice MOC! I like the SNOT technique for the hood and the use of the old-style windows! Quote
LL1982 Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 2 hours ago, idlemarvel said: Very good model of the prototype. The colour scheme works well. Can you get rid of the layer of grey underneath the yellow walkway? Or is that an essential part of the bogies? I like the use of all those ingots for the grills. That is also the part i do not fully like when looking at the original. Right now that grey is part of the structure of the trucks, its a 12 stud plate and then tiles on it. It holds the details that hide the wheels. I have used clips and to those i connected the plates. I also tried that in black but it looked awful, DBG was much better in my opinion in this version. I would rather have clips and then a black bar (but they are not 12 studs long) that is then underneath the main body to go from end to end and then add details to that bar. That would look better I think. But I have not figured that out yet. The lego motor has no connection points in the middle which makes it harder to detail for me at least. Do you have any suggestions? The ingots I am also happy about. The normal grills would not work here, and the only one that would, would be the 2x1 sloped grill, but that would not fit in the profile. I had a whole bunch of these and they felt like a good fit. 1 hour ago, PossumPatrol said: Nice MOC! I like the SNOT technique for the hood and the use of the old-style windows! Thank you. Yeah the windows are left overs from bygone era's and I wanted to really use these on this older locomotive. Quote
Selander Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) Nice model (as I already wrote on Flickr) 💪🙌 Normally (typically) bogies are more narrow than running boards, so in this case, with a 7-wide loco, I would have built bogies standard 6-wide. I believe the overall propotions/looks would be even better that way. Edited June 22 by Selander Quote
Feuer Zug Posted June 22 Posted June 22 Mooi. Good mix of old windows, new ingots, and other techniques to recreate this locomotive. Quote
LL1982 Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 1 hour ago, Selander said: Nice model (as I already wrote on Flickr) 💪🙌 Normally (typically) bogies are more narrow than running boards, so in this case, with a 7-wide loco, I would have built bogies standard 6-wide. I believe the overall propotions/looks would be even better that way. Thanks. I will give it a try tonight and try to post a wip if I achieve something. 50 minutes ago, Feuer Zug said: Mooi. Good mix of old windows, new ingots, and other techniques to recreate this locomotive. Thanks Quote
Ts__ Posted June 22 Posted June 22 I’m conflicted. On the one hand, I understand the reasoning behind choosing a 7-wide body. That certainly makes the challenge more interesting. On the other hand, though, I also see areas that stray further from the prototype and could perhaps be improved without undermining the overall concept: - The black bar with the headlights is definitely too high. - The gray section above the bogies doesn’t belong there. It might be better to give the bogies more space. I like the choice of color scheme: dark gray and yellow always work well, and the bogies really stand out against the black. Great. Thomas Quote
LL1982 Posted June 22 Author Posted June 22 Thanks for the honest feedback. I have to say the black never caught my eye, but now I cannot unsee it 😂. I already have an idea to move that back further down. Quote
zephyr1934 Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Nice build, with some small but new to me techniques. 17 hours ago, LL1982 said: I would rather have clips and then a black bar (but they are not 12 studs long) that is then underneath the main body to go from end to end and then add details to that bar. That would look better I think. But I have not figured that out yet. The lego motor has no connection points in the middle which makes it harder to detail for me at least. Do you have any suggestions? You could always use a 3mm rigid hose, possibly cut down to length. But the standard motor sides might look okay too. The ingots are an interesting choice, I would not have thought about it, I probably would have gone with 1x2 grill tiles but I think the ingots work better by bringing in the right amount of "lines". So what are the 1x1 windows on the side of the cab for? Quote
LL1982 Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 3 hours ago, zephyr1934 said: Nice build, with some small but new to me techniques. You could always use a 3mm rigid hose, possibly cut down to length. But the standard motor sides might look okay too. The ingots are an interesting choice, I would not have thought about it, I probably would have gone with 1x2 grill tiles but I think the ingots work better by bringing in the right amount of "lines". So what are the 1x1 windows on the side of the cab for? Thanks, the hose may be an idea indeed, but I think I found a solution, will upload photos. The ingots are a test that worked out. The official grills looked wrong to me and at the hub I cannot fully cover it as they do not make 3 or 4 high brackets. The 1x1 window is a small window which is in one of the two access doors. There is one on the side, with the 1x1 window. The second door is opposite diagonally and gives access to the side board of the train on the left side of the train. Inside are two chairs, one for forward driving on the right, one for backwards driving on the left, if I am correct. Thank you for all the input, really helpful and it got my mind working on different solutions. Concerning the boogies (or trucks) I found a possible solution in using some old skool flag poles (no clue how you call them, I used them on the pirate flags) and some bits and pieces I had lying around from the hobby train. I did not have enough parts for two boogies, but I got a concept down. Need to do a driving test to see how it responds, but it feels solid. It looks better compared to my previous version, at least to me. @idlemarvel @Selander @Ts__ thanks for the feedback there. @Ts__ mentioned the black headlights being to high which i agree on so i found a relative quick fix, though i need to order a new bracket piece that still allows lights in the headlights but putting it lower. Quote
Ts__ Posted June 23 Posted June 23 Great improvements! I think it's great that you took the criticism to heart—it makes for a better MOC. Thomas Quote
LL1982 Posted June 23 Author Posted June 23 6 hours ago, PossumPatrol said: The new bogie design is a nice improvement. Thank you all. I also learned we now have 5L axles, so ordered some of those that would help the boogies fall even more under the main body. Parts are ordered to make two complete boogies. And it gives more space in the area between the boogies to put some details in. Quote
TeddytheSpoon Posted June 24 Posted June 24 Nice design, and nice improvements too! Although I'm surprised that engineer isn't freaking out at the dismembered hand just above his on the handrail Quote
idlemarvel Posted June 24 Posted June 24 15 hours ago, Ts__ said: Great improvements! I think it's great that you took the criticism to heart—it makes for a better MOC. Thomas Well said Thomas. The new bogies are a great improvement. It's looking good. Quote
LL1982 Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 3 hours ago, TeddytheSpoon said: Nice design, and nice improvements too! Although I'm surprised that engineer isn't freaking out at the dismembered hand just above his on the handrail I prefer my classic figures with a classic head, but I can see if my daughter has one of the modern faces that i can swap it out with for you ;) 2 hours ago, idlemarvel said: Well said Thomas. The new bogies are a great improvement. It's looking good. Thanks, hope the 5L axle improves it even a bit more by reducing width again by a couple of mm. Quote
Thomas Waagenaar Posted June 24 Posted June 24 That's a nice looking 2200! Especially the second set of pictures, it looks great for a 7 wide, still fitting with your other stuff with the classic elements The new bogies without the grey are definitely a massive improvement! Looking good 👌 A 5L axle might be a tad too short actually, going to be close. Worst case scenario you could always cut down a 6L axle? They're not expensive luckily, haha Quote
LL1982 Posted June 24 Author Posted June 24 Thanks Thomas, yeah the new version is thanks to feedback indeed better. Ok will check with the axles. Trimming 34yr old lego pieces feels like heresy 🤣 but it is an option. My printed bricks are in the mail also so I hope to soon post an update with full set of boogies and those. Quote
LEGO Train 12 Volts Posted June 25 Posted June 25 I immediately googled the original locomotive and you did a great job on the modeling! I like the use of the old yellow windows for the back (or is it the front?) of the diesel shunter. The 7-stud wide format is always my favorite. Quote
LL1982 Posted June 26 Author Posted June 26 (edited) Printed bricks and last parts for the boogies came in just before the heatwave struck so I had some time today to update the locomotive. Did some test drives with the new boogies and they hold well. Indeed the 5L axle did not work well at the motor as Thomas predicted, not enough hold. Again thanks for all the feedback, much appreciated, it helped me a lot. More shots/movies on IG and flickr. Edited June 26 by LL1982 Quote
bogieman Posted June 26 Posted June 26 Your model looks terrific. Always like to see printed bricks, so much better than stickers, but comparatively expensive. Quote
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