New Rumored Pirate Set in July 2023

[Mister Phes]

7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Not likely. We got the Castle in the Forest BDP set and the Lions' Castle 90th Anniversary set, so there is precedent for LEGO releasing similar sets around the same time.

And we got nothing for Pirates! No 90th Anniversary set...  No BrickLink Designer Program set.... so let's hope that's not also a precedent! 

7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Additionally, I believe that most if not all of the BrickLink Pirates entries focused on the pirates themselves (rather than the imperials), so LEGO may not see a pirate island and an imperial fort as competing products

After Pirates of Barracuda Bay was released, for a few months during the middle of 2020, new Imperial and Soldier submissions were automatically rejected on LEGO Ideas due to "overlap" of concept.  And by that I mean, nobody could even submit them for others to support.

@Piraten raised the alarm and we made a fuss.  Not long after the "ban" was lifted and Imperial submissions were accepted again, but despite half a dozen reaching 10K on LEGO Ideas, obviously none have passed review.

[Classic_Spaceman]

1 hour ago, Mister Phes said:

And we got nothing for Pirates! No 90th Anniversary set...  No BrickLink Designer Program set.... so let's hope that's not also a precedent! 

PoBB had only been retired for about six months when the anniversary sets released, which may have been why LEGO did not give us a Pirates set for the 90th (TBH, the new Eldorado Fortress feels like a delayed anniversary set, as the other two (Castle and Space) were also remakes of classic sets). 
 

[Aanchir]

4 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

PoBB had only been retired for about six months when the anniversary sets released, which may have been why LEGO did not give us a Pirates set for the 90th (TBH, the new Eldorado Fortress feels like a delayed anniversary set, as the other two (Castle and Space) were also remakes of classic sets). 

I wouldn't be surprised if this and some of the other non-anniversary throwback sets we've seen (such as the Bionicle and Blacktron GWPs) were informed in part by the results of the LEGO Ideas 90th anniversary poll. After all, even if LEGO didn't have the production capacity to deliver setts from all these popular themes/subthemes as 90th anniversary tie-ins, I suspect there are a number of LEGO designers who had already been eagerly exploring possibilities for throwback sets like these, and were simply waiting on the perfect chance to show their higher-ups how many fans of those themes were just as eager for sets of that sort.

Plus, I'm sure some of those 90th anniversary throwbacks like the Galaxy Explorer and Lion Knights' Castle helped open the floodgates, so to speak, by showing that this enthusiasm AFOLs have for older themes CAN, in fact, translate to sales (something that some previous nostalgia-fueled releases like the LEGO Legends line from the early 2000s struggled with).

And of course, it helps that LEGO is no longer as reticent about making dedicated adult-targeted sets as they were back in the 2000s and early 2010s when sets like the Medieval Market Village and Imperial Flagship hit the market. Back then, LEGO only had slots for 7 or 8 such sets a year, and a lot of those would inevitably be taken up by other, more "proven" adult-targeted product lines like the Landmarks Series, Modular Buildings Collection, Winter Village Collection, and Star Wars Ultimate Collector Series. Now that LEGO is willing to devote a greater share of their portfolio to adult-targeted sets, they will probably be able to produce these throwback-type sets on a more frequent basis going forward.

[Khargeust]

 

18 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

something that some previous nostalgia-fueled releases like the LEGO Legends line from the early 2000s struggled with

What do you mean more exactly ? I lack retrospective on this subject

 

18 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

And of course, it helps that LEGO is no longer as reticent about making dedicated adult-targeted sets as they were back in the 2000s and early 2010s when sets like the Medieval Market Village and Imperial Flagship hit the market

But those were hits at that time, weren't they ? Why didn't LEGO continue this approach afterwards ?

 

18 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

Now that LEGO is willing to devote a greater share of their portfolio to adult-targeted sets, they will probably be able to produce these throwback-type sets on a more frequent basis going forward.

But what about full new lines of classic themes ? It's absolutely awesome to have today masterpieces like 21322, 40567, 10305, 10497 and soon the remake of set 6276 Eldorado Fortress, which I'm totally excited for, but what a lot of fans want above all it's the long-lasting return of classic themes in the form of new, full and complete sub-themes ! 

I just posted a topic about this : 

 

Edited April 12, 2023 by Khargeust

[kuzyabricks]

I definitely see both sides of the coin where it could hinder or not affect it at all. If the BL sets aren't an absolute MUST need (pirates/castle) then I'll just put my money to get the new MMV and D&D set earlier. I'll only drop a bag on the BL sets if they are MUST needs like a flagship/ black falcon fort etc

[Aanchir]

On 4/12/2023 at 12:56 PM, Khargeust said:

What do you mean more exactly ? I lack retrospective on this subject

Jamie Berard mentioned here some reasons why the LEGO Legends line didn't do so well. They apply more to strict re-releases than to classic-inspired sets more generally, but probably played a part in discouraging LEGO from making more of those sorts of nostalgia-driven, AFOL-targeted exclusives until fairly recently.

On 4/12/2023 at 12:56 PM, Khargeust said:

But those were hits at that time, weren't they ? Why didn't LEGO continue this approach afterwards ?

I get the impression they sold fairly well, but not well enough to become an annual/biannual tradition like the Modular Buildings, Winter Village, or Fairground collections. After all, with so few slots reserved for adult-targeted exclusives in each year's product line, making every successful D2C set into an annual/biannual tradition would soon leave no room to experiment with new and different sorts of adult-targeted exclusives.

Also, it's worth noting that the Medieval Market Village's and Imperial Flagship's strong sales could be attributed (at least in part) to them tying in with then-recent Castle and Pirates releases. I suspect that played a big part in giving LEGO the confidence to make adult-targeted sets tied to other current/recent themes in subsequent years, like the Monster Fighters Haunted House, Kingdoms Joust, and Ninjago Temple of Airjitzu. But it didn't necessarily prove anything about the viability of nostalgia-focused exclusives based on inactive themes, and so understandably LEGO would have been warier about such products at the time.

On 4/12/2023 at 12:56 PM, Khargeust said:

But what about full new lines of classic themes ? It's absolutely awesome to have today masterpieces like 21322, 40567, 10305, 10497 and soon the remake of set 6276 Eldorado Fortress, which I'm totally excited for, but what a lot of fans want above all it's the long-lasting return of classic themes in the form of new, full and complete sub-themes!

Trust me, plenty of us would love for LEGO to make full lines of classic-inspired Castle, Pirates, and Space sets. But a full theme inevitably takes up a LOT more production capacity than a one-off exclusive — which is tricky to justify when so much of LEGO's production capacity is taken up by reliable, proven themes like City, Friends, Ninjago, Star Wars, Super Heroes, Disney, Creator, Classic, Technic, etc.

And when LEGO does have room for a new kid-targeted theme (like this year's rumored new theme "Dreamzzz"), its subject matter is often decided based on what subjects, visuals, and play patterns are most exciting to kids at the time — based on anywhere from one to four years of testing, research, and development.

In some cases, the theme selected at the end of this process IS very similar to a genre or category that the company has explored in previous decades — such as Power Miners, Atlantis, Hidden Side, Ultra Agents, etc. But it can just as easily be something radically different than any "traditional" LEGO themes. In any case, it's not something LEGO tends to decide based on whether a particular classic theme "deserves" another chance in the spotlight.

Sorry if I sound like a "Debbie downer" here! I genuinely am hopeful that there could be opportunities for new Castle, Pirates, or Space themes in the future. But realistically, I don't expect those possibilities to get any sort of preferential treatment over other new theme possibilities. If these traditional sorts of themes do end up making a comeback, it'll be because kids develop an especially passionate interest in them, as they have at various times in the past.

 

On the subject of LEGO Pirates specifically: I recently received my pre-ordered copy of The Secret Life of LEGO Bricks by Daniel Konstanski. It discusses a lot of the development process behind old-school themes, including the original three minifigure-scale "play themes" which represented the past (Castle), present (Town), and future (Space). Even after Castle had proven successful, a host of other historic-inspired themes were considered, since designers couldn't know for sure whether or not the LEGO Castle relaunch in 1984 would end up being as strong a hit with kids. These included not only Pirates, but also Ancient Rome, Jules Verne-inspired fantasy, Vikings, Western, and Napoleonic Wars/"Europa".

Of those possibilities, Ancient Rome was the one preferred by Castle designer Daniel August Krentz, but it was rejected because there was a popular Asterix the Gaul TV cartoon in Europe at the time, and designers felt kids would respond to an Ancient Rome theme like a poor knock-off if it didn't portray the Romans and their adversaries the way they were familiar with from that franchise. Niels Milan Pedersen was an eager proponent of the Jules Verne idea, but kids who it was tested with were not familiar with those types of stories and did not respond well to the proposed models (such as a Nautilus-inspired submarine), finding them confusing and nonsensical.

After development on the Castle relaunch concluded, designers continued concept and model development for Europa, Western, and Pirates, in hopes that one of those three would be selected as the next play theme. Western was the next of these to be rejected because of the Kirk Christiansen family's aversion to weapons and violent scenarios like shootouts (and concerns that 19th century handguns and rifles looked too close to modern ones, unlike the other two themes' more old-fashioned looking cannons, flintlock pistols, and muskets).

In the end, it took years before LEGO firmly settled on Pirates as their next theme. And it then ended up getting delayed for years longer because the Castle theme remained a massive hit even longer than expected, and LEGO didn't want to split their production capacity between even more themes and risk not having enough of either theme's products on the shelves to meet demand (sort of the same thing as what happened more recently with Ninjago, honestly).

I think all of this gives some real perspective on how much it can take for any potential new theme to win approval over all the other possibilities under consideration — although development schedules for new sets and themes are fortunately shorter and more streamlined today than they were back then.

[Roebuck]

26 minutes ago, Aanchir said:

Also, it's worth noting that the Medieval Market Village's and Imperial Flagship's strong sales could be attributed (at least in part) to them tying in with then-recent Castle and Pirates releases. I suspect that played a big part in giving LEGO the confidence to make adult-targeted sets tied to other current/recent themes in subsequent years, like the Monster Fighters Haunted House, Kingdoms Joust, and Ninjago Temple of Airjitzu. But it didn't necessarily prove anything about the viability of nostalgia-focused exclusives based on inactive themes, and so understandably LEGO would have been warier about such products at the time.

Lego probably believed that at the time, after all they stopped making HP sets because the movies ended even if the franchise was still extremely popular. They also made advent calenders, chess sets etc in addition to the D2C sets to tie in with the normal wave of sets. Things are different now and Lego knows Pirates, Castle and Space D2C sets will sell on their own without the backing of a normal wave of sets. A wave of sets aimed more at kids must sell a lot more than a single D2C to defend their spot on shelf's and maybe kids today prefer things like Ninjago instead

[RichardGoring]

1 hour ago, Aanchir said:

Jamie Berard mentioned here some reasons why the LEGO Legends line didn't do so well. They apply more to strict re-releases than to classic-inspired sets more generally, but probably played a part in discouraging LEGO from making more of those sorts of nostalgia-driven, AFOL-targeted exclusives until fairly recently.

All very interesting, but on this part specifically, Jamie mentions that people's memories of old sets are that they are smaller and less detailed than remembered, which is something they also brought up on the release of the Lion Knights castle and 10497 Galaxy Explorer - hence being twice as big as the originals. Pirates of Barracuda Bay was similar. And of course, doing that you multiple the number of parts significantly, increasing the cost, which reduces the market potential, which impacts whether people want them even more, and... well, vicious cycle.

[Aanchir]

14 minutes ago, RichardGoring said:

All very interesting, but on this part specifically, Jamie mentions that people's memories of old sets are that they are smaller and less detailed than remembered, which is something they also brought up on the release of the Lion Knights castle and 10497 Galaxy Explorer - hence being twice as big as the originals. Pirates of Barracuda Bay was similar. And of course, doing that you multiple the number of parts significantly, increasing the cost, which reduces the market potential, which impacts whether people want them even more, and... well, vicious cycle.

Honestly, I find it a little fascinating that the Barracuda itself in PoBB had roughly the same size hull as the original set (around 50 studs long by 16 studs wide). Perhaps that's a testament to how MASSIVE the Black Seas Barracuda/Dark Shark was compared to most other playsets of its time! But you're right that PoBB expanded extensively on the original build in other areas: a full main deck; higher forecastle and quarterdeck; larger masts, spars, and sails (including a spanker); a longer bowsprit with a martingale boom; etc.

For that matter, PoBB's primary shipwreck hideout build was naturally MUCH larger than any of the pirate hideouts from the original theme! And I expect an exclusive, AFOL-targeted Imperial fort would likewise be quite a bit larger than the original Eldorado Fortress, particularly since its footprint wouldn't have to be constrained to fit a preformed 32x32 baseplate.

And honestly, being able to get big, premium models like Pirates of Barracuda Bay or the Lion Knight's Castle is another thing that LEGO likely would've balked at back in the days of Medieval Market Village and Imperial Flagship — to say nothing of the days of LEGO Legends! The change in perspective is probably in part because we've seen even larger and more expensive exclusives in some other product lines (including licensed ones) that have helped prove to LEGO how much adult builders are willing to spend on a premium model.

In fact, The Secret Life of LEGO Bricks mentions something else I hadn't really considered before — how big a role the success of the UCS Millennium Falcon (which was developed largely as a passion project, and not necessarily expected to sell in high volumes) played in helping the Creator Expert design team get approval for larger and more numerous non-licensed exclusives in subsequent years. Knowing that honestly gives me a new appreciation for those sorts of massive, several-hundred-dollar licensed exclusives, even though I personally have very little interest in them (or in licensed themes in general).

[RichardGoring]

5 hours ago, Aanchir said:

...

In fact, The Secret Life of LEGO Bricks mentions something else I hadn't really considered before — how big a role the success of the UCS Millennium Falcon (which was developed largely as a passion project, and not necessarily expected to sell in high volumes) played in helping the Creator Expert design team get approval for larger and more numerous non-licensed exclusives in subsequent years. Knowing that honestly gives me a new appreciation for those sorts of massive, several-hundred-dollar licensed exclusives, even though I personally have very little interest in them (or in licensed themes in general).

I may have to try and get a copy of that, sounds like an interesting read. I'm not a huge fan of licensed sets, and they make up a small proportion of my collection. I only own two Star Wars sets. But they are the Milennium Falcon and Star Destroyer, because of the presence they have and the impact something like that makes on you when you see it. So I can totally appreciate that insight - I'm part of it! 

But my favourites are still pirates and forestmen. Not only from my childhood, but also because when I got them out for my then three year old, a few years ago, it was an instant hit. 6270 Forbidden Island, 6274 Caribbean Clipper, and 6066 Camouflaged Outpost are just so well done, in so many ways. And still stand up today, I think. As does a small child. Perfect!

[Mister Phes]

21 hours ago, Aanchir said:

Jamie Berard mentioned here some reasons why the LEGO Legends line didn't do so well.

Thank you for sharing that link.  The question of why more classic set aren't re-released occurs every so often but people don't want to believe reasons.

So I'll paste a quote of the most relevant information here for safe keeping:

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In regards to re-releases, we have considered them many times over the past several years. We learned a lot from the LEGO Legends line. First and foremost is that fans' memories are extremely difficult to match with original products. Those sets which were exact re-releases, for some reason seemed smaller, less detailed or somehow not quite as grandiose as remembered. Compared with current sets, the price value also seemed to be lacking. Sets with substitution bricks were blasted as not being authentic enough and somehow not true to the original masterpiece. In the end, more fans spoke of wanting re-releases than those who actually purchased them.

Now, just need to remember I pasted it here.

[Classic_Spaceman]

On 4/12/2023 at 12:36 PM, Aanchir said:

I suspect there are a number of LEGO designers who had already been eagerly exploring possibilities for throwback sets like these, and were simply waiting on the perfect chance to show their higher-ups how many fans of those themes were just as eager for sets of that sort.

We know that this is the case - One of the designers of the Medieval Blacksmith started looking through redesigns of classic Castle factions that he had made just for fun as soon as the model was approved. 
 

5 hours ago, Mister Phes said:

So I'll paste a quote of the most relevant information here for safe keeping:

LEGO has solved this problem now; the lack of grandeur is generally a scaling and detail issue (as explained by one of the Galaxy Explorer's designers), so modern remakes are larger and have more intricate/textured construction. 
 

[Mister Phes]

7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

LEGO has solved this problem now

I was referring to straight-forward re-releases, not modern remakes/updates.

7 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

the lack of grandeur is generally a scaling and detail issue (as explained by one of the Galaxy Explorer's designers), so modern remakes are larger and have more intricate/textured construction. 

Is there an online source with this information which can be quoted?

I ask, because one day I might write a blog post about this so it's useful to have references which can be cited.

[Classic_Spaceman]

12 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

I was referring to straight-forward re-releases, not modern remakes/updates.

I mean that LEGO has now found a way to successfully revive classic themes/sets. 
 

12 minutes ago, Mister Phes said:

Is there an online source with this information which can be quoted?

I ask, because one day I might write a blog post about this so it's useful to have references which can be cited.

Multiple interviews with Mike Psiaki (here and here, for example): 

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"We buy a lot of old Lego sets for fun, just to build, and we would get these sets and build and be like, ‘This isn’t quite what I imagined it would be’ or ‘It’s smaller than I expected’. So there’s this phenomenon of remembering the Lego sets from your childhood as being bigger and more impressive than they actually are," Mike continued.

"We got this idea in our head, like what if we were to just scale the Galaxy Explorer up so that it felt like it should when you were a kid. And I used my son as reference. At the time we were making it he was six years old and I’m one-and-a-half times his height. So I used him as a scaling factor for the ship." 

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We increased every dimension by one and a half times to recreate the feeling of holding 497 Galaxy Explorer as a child, by holding 10497 Galaxy Explorer as an adult.

 

Edited April 15, 2023 by Classic_Spaceman

[Mister Phes]

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

I mean that LEGO has now found a way to successfully revive classic themes/sets. 

Yes, I know what you meant.  When I said straight-forward re-release I was specifically referring to the Legend sets released ~20 years ago. I.e 10400 Black Seas Barracuda, 6292 Enchanted Island, 6292 Armada Flagship and 6290 Red Beard Runner.

In short: Re-releasing older sets in their original form doesn't work, but updating their design with modern building pratices and more pieces does work.

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

Multiple interviews with Mike Psiaki (here and here, for example): 

Thank you for sharing these great sources!

 

[Jiesdeo]

With regards to re-releasing modulars, I think there's a huge difference compared to Legends re-releasing classic playsets. On top of the modulars having been detailed from the beginning, there has been a huge increase in AFOLs over the last few years that want to catch-up with the previous sets to fill out their cities. It's not so much nostalgia as completionism.

 

Edit: Or just regular Lego fans that has grown up with the playsets, but were too young to buy the modulars when they were available.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Jiesdeo

[Jack Sassy]

11 hours ago, Jiesdeo said:

Or just regular Lego fans that has grown up with the playsets, but were too young to buy the modulars when they were available.

Aye, Classic Pirates was right before my time (I am young but not that young ) and during 2009 and 2015 I was more interested in LEGO City and other themes . Managed to obtain something from all three themes nowadays but it certainly is much harder acquiring bigger sets. 

 

I am hoping this new set will give us and the theme some justice, to catch up with other classic theme 'revivals'. 

[Roebuck]

19 hours ago, Jiesdeo said:

With regards to re-releasing modulars, I think there's a huge difference compared to Legends re-releasing classic playsets. On top of the modulars having been detailed from the beginning, there has been a huge increase in AFOLs over the last few years that want to catch-up with the previous sets to fill out their cities. It's not so much nostalgia as completionism.

 

Edit: Or just regular Lego fans that has grown up with the playsets, but were too young to buy the modulars when they were available.

A strict re-release of modulars still have a few issues:
 

1. They have been detailed from the beginning on the exterior, but not on the interior so that is a big difference compared to a modern one
2. Lego only has production capacity for a given number of products every year, if they must choose between a new modular and say CC the new one will always sell a lot more since there is a lot of us collecting that already have CC.
3. Parts in the old sets may not be in production any more. That is not a big deal just bring it back you say? Well just look at the goat The same issue it can be with colours not in use any more, but I do not know it that is the case..
4. There is a lot more useful parts now than 15 years ago, so if they made them today they would have a lot of more modern bricks so the original may look a little old fashion because of that
    

Personally I do not think they will re-release the old modulars and regarding Castle and Pirates (Space) sets I think they have found a winning recipe with a modern take on classic sets.

[Yperio_Bricks]

2 hours ago, Roebuck said:

Personally I do not think they will re-release the old modulars and regarding Castle and Pirates (Space) sets I think they have found a winning recipe with a modern take on classic sets.

I think so too

Speaking about the goat... The goat is just a meme at this point But does anybody think that LEGO, a multi-billion $ company and the biggest toy manufacturer in the world, isn't able to create a new mold for a goat that resembles the old one (almost) perfectly? Maybe i lack the insight but i think they could produce a new goat if they wanted and when they do not produce a new goat then they choose to do so, for whatever reason

[Roebuck]

38 minutes ago, Yperio_Bricks said:

Speaking about the goat... The goat is just a meme at this point But does anybody think that LEGO, a multi-billion $ company and the biggest toy manufacturer in the world, isn't able to create a new mold for a goat that resembles the old one (almost) perfectly? Maybe i lack the insight but i think they could produce a new goat if they wanted and when they do not produce a new goat then they choose to do so, for whatever reason

No, they could make it anytime they like they just like all the PR and hype it creates. When they finally make it, fans will co crazy and the set it comes in will be sold out after 5 mins almost no matter how it looks.

• Mark Stafford designer of Jurassic Park: T. rex Rampage 75936 wanted to include it and probably had the budget to do it. Found out the mould was broken and did not have the time to wait for them to make a new one. OK at least we learned that the mould was broken..
• Wes Talbott and Samuel Johnson wanted to include one in 21325: Medieval Blacksmith, even tried to convince a person high up to let them do it. OK Ideas budget are extremely low so they normally can not include new moulds even if that seem to be no problem with some of the licensed ones..
• 10305: Lion Knights' Castle was a very good moment to do it and they had the budget for it. However Mike Psiaki do not seem to be very interested in animal moulds in my mind, even if Milan Madge was the main designer maybe they decided to use the budget on the other part instead of the goat. OK number of animals is one of the few cons with the set so a goat was probably not the first priority.
• 60346: Barn & Farm Animals had several new animal moulds one of them could easily be replaced with a goat. OK it was better with the ones we got since there is already adult animals so they only needed to make the juveniles and the sheep skin ads a fun play-feature.
• OK lets say we "buy" all the excuses I have made for not including the goat in those sets and I could probably made up some more for other sets. Still Lego could just have made a CMF with a goat if they just wanted to give us one, no problem with plenty of budget for new moulds
   

Conclusion they are enjoining the hype and waiting for the perfect moment to do so my guess is the Medieval marked village that leaked from the survey

Sorry for OT post

[brickbride]

According to Promobricks (https://www.promobricks.de/lego-leak-umfrage-2023/157463/), a recent leak by JeanGreyForever (first here on Eurobricks, and then spread elsewhere) includes a potential Medieval Village set. With a goat.

Google translation of the relevant part of the article:

Continuing with the adult sets with the Medieval Village! This set is expressly intended as the successor to 10193 Medieval Market Village from 2009. The set contains four medieval houses in the form of facades, which can be folded up in the same way as 10305 Castle of the Lion Knights. You can either display two closed houses or play with four houses that are open at the back. The houses are cleverly built, a small watchtower is part of one of the houses.

The houses are then framed by four trees, which can also be built. The set contains at least eight minifigures, from the city guard to the court jester to the common people. A lot of animals should also be included: two sheep, a cow with calves, a horse, a cat, various birds and squirrels - and yes, the goat should also return in this set according to the picture available to us! There is also a beehive.

    Parts: 3200
    Price range: $190 to $310
    Most Likely Price: $240

Now, as the leak is from a market survey, this set may or may not ultimately be produced (even assuming that the leak itself is legit, as it seems to be), and if it is produced it may or may not have been changed from what was shown there. But the potential for a Return of the Goat exists.

Edited April 16, 2023 by brickbride

[Mister Phes]

1 hour ago, brickbride said:

According to Promobricks (https://www.promobricks.de/lego-leak-umfrage-2023/157463/), a recent leak by JeanGreyForever (first here on Eurobricks, and then spread elsewhere) includes a potential Medieval Village set. With a goat.

This is the LEGO Pirates Forum - this information really belongs in the Lego Medieval Village (2023/24 set?) Discussion Thread in the LEGO Historic Themes Forum.

[brickbride]

Sorry! I was referring to Roebuck's and Yperio_Bricks' comments about the goat.

[Jiesdeo]

So, back to the rumoured Pirates-set.

If it's a new more detailed Eldorado Fortress, do you think Lego will re-use the bluecoat uniforms from the 2015 wave, or do you think they will design new ones? I would however assume that the soldiers would get red epaulettes instead of white. Maybe the officers will get double moulded legs with black boots?

 

[jodawill]

I see no reason that they would use those. They don't match the current style. I think the new ones will have curves that make it look more cloth like. I also really hope they have red epaulets. I bet they will because the original set did and that part is only available in gold right now anyway. If they have to use a color change frame for it, I see no reason they'd choose something other than red. I wouldn't be surprised if it also had the gold one though.