Walter Kovacs Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) A few weeks ago, I posted a topic showcasing my UCS scale TIE Defender Rev 2. During the discussion, I mentioned that the wings needed to be re-designed to make them lighter. When the new wing design was finished, I found that the Pylons really needed a fresh coat of paint as well. Compounding it all, the rear of the model was supported off of the pylons, so that needed some attention as well. The end result is that I now have a UCS Scale TIE Defender, Revision 2.8: I settled on Rev 2.8, because the main hub and cockpit ball remained unchanged, so it wasn't quite a complete re-design. For reference, here are the front views of Revision 1 and Revision 2. Here's a Side View for your consideration. The profile didn't change much, though the wings became two studs thinner, the overall length was two studs shorter, and the middle section of the wing was also narrowed by two studs. The angle of the wings looks a little awkward, but locking hinges only allow 22.5 or 45 degree angles. I opted for the 45 degrees. If you think 22.5 would look better, I can always change it. I greebled the living crap out of the Pylons. It might have been overkill, but the result looks much better than it's predecessor. The Rear of the model also got a facelift. Here's a Close-Up so you can get a good look at the greebies on the back side of the pylons. I have uploaded the Instructions as a .PDF, should anyone be interested. I can get you a Parts List as well, if you need it. The full Gallery can be seen here, as well as Revision 1's Gallery and Revision 2's. The Cockpit Ball is the only thing that has gone unchanged among the three revisions. It could use a fresh look, but honestly I can't think of a better way to get the spherical shape quite yet. If anyone has some good ideas, I'll always listen. Questions, Comments and Criticisms are always welcome. Edited June 26, 2008 by Walter Kovacs Quote
Vaders_son Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 Hey Walter, nice to see you so improved your already great model! For the wings, I think the 45° are the better choice, but maybe you could give us a shot with the wings put on on 25°? Just to have a better opportunity to compare the possibilities And I how you did the pylons! The greebling is awesome, no overkill at all!! You really improved you model Best regards, Benny Quote
Walter Kovacs Posted June 27, 2008 Author Posted June 27, 2008 Thanks, Benny. I've uploaded a picture with the 22.5 degree wings to the Rev 2.8 Gallery. Of course, now you'll have to wait until the folder is moderated again to see it. When I look at the image, the wings look way too shallow to me. Let me know what you think. Quote
Vaders_son Posted June 27, 2008 Posted June 27, 2008 Thanks for the pic Walter, as I thought it doesn't look nearly as good as it does when the wings are put in an 45° angle. Put like this they look way to flat I'd say So we see - your choice was wise Benny Quote
henryisazn Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 I'd like a parts list of the TIE Defender. I currently own some of the special parts required, but I'm not sure if I have enough of those 8x8 flat plates. They have little holes in them. I have 16 from the TIE Advanced. Also, for your middle intersection of those three wings, if I do not have the sufficient Technic parts, is there a specific way I can order all of them from LEGO? Thanks Quote
Big Cam Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 I'd like a parts list of the TIE Defender.I currently own some of the special parts required, but I'm not sure if I have enough of those 8x8 flat plates. They have little holes in them. I have 16 from the TIE Advanced. Also, for your middle intersection of those three wings, if I do not have the sufficient Technic parts, is there a specific way I can order all of them from LEGO? Thanks You realize this thread is from a year and a half ago right? Still the OP is active so maybe he'll come through. It is quite impressive. Quote
Legoman Posted January 20, 2010 Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) I'd like a parts list of the TIE Defender.I currently own some of the special parts required, but I'm not sure if I have enough of those 8x8 flat plates. They have little holes in them. I have 16 from the TIE Advanced. Also, for your middle intersection of those three wings, if I do not have the sufficient Technic parts, is there a specific way I can order all of them from LEGO? Thanks Hi there henryisazn, Not sure if you looked at the date before posting, but, this topic is nearly 2 years old Generally we leave topics that old EDIT: Sorry, Big Cam bet me to it Edited January 20, 2010 by legoman Quote
henryisazn Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Is there a better way to contact him? I tried to use the email function on his profile, but it failed.. Quote
Big Cam Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 Is there a better way to contact him?I tried to use the email function on his profile, but it failed.. A PM (personal message) would be my best suggestion. Although I do think you need 10 posts before you are able to use the PM system. I would suggest making some usefull comments on some peoples creations, but current ones. Quote
cavegod Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 i pm'd him a bit back on here and FBTB and also email never got a response though. Quote
Big Cam Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 i pm'd him a bit back on here and FBTB and also email never got a response though. Then I'd assume he either isn't active anymore or maybe he just doesn't want to release that info?? Who knows. You've done what you can. Not trying to sound like I'm the bearer of bad news but without stalk ing the person, they isn't much more you can do. Quote
henryisazn Posted January 21, 2010 Posted January 21, 2010 I think he's still active, I saw his post earlier today about the trains.. So I can;'t send messages until I have 10 posts? Quote
Walter Kovacs Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 @henryisazn: I sent an e-mail this morning with the parts list. Hope it helps. i pm'd him a bit back on here and FBTB and also email never got a response though. Sorry I never responded to you, cavegod. I went through a little mini-dark age over the summer, and by the time I finally saw your PM, it was a few months after the fact. At the time, I thought it was a little late to respond ot a PM. I've been mostly lurking the last year or so unless I have a MOC to show, or I have something relevent to add to a discussion (which is rare). I am trying to become a little more outgoing nowadays. Also, I topld henryisazn to contact you, cavegod, since the wings on your Defender actually want to stay on the pylons. I can get them to stick with my design, but I think it looks like utter crap. I've been in a "builder's block" funk for a while now, so I just haven't been able to come up with a design I like. In short (too late), I am still around, and I try to respond to anything snet my way, though some things slip by. Quote
cavegod Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 glad your back! you need to get building, theres plenty ties left yet! Quote
Big Cam Posted January 22, 2010 Posted January 22, 2010 I think he's still active, I saw his post earlier today about the trains..So I can;'t send messages until I have 10 posts? Thats correct. Glad to see you back Walter! Quote
Walter Kovacs Posted January 22, 2010 Author Posted January 22, 2010 glad your back! you need to get building, theres plenty ties left yet! Ah, but I always design in MLCad first. And I am working on two designs right now, a TIE Shuttle (that will also be converted into a better Bomber) and a TIE Hunter. Unfortunately, economics being what they are these days, I will have absolutely NO money for Bricklink purchases, so anything I design in the near future will have to remain in the virtual world. Unless someone else wants to handle the actual build. The Shuttle is probably 60% done. The hulls are done, the interiors and wings are non-existent. The Hunter is currently just a concept for making the S-Foils work. Once I get the kinks worked out, I'll probably build an off-color prototype just to prove to myself that the mechanism will work. Of course I'll post images and/or pics when I get that far. Quote
henryisazn Posted January 23, 2010 Posted January 23, 2010 Walter, I didn't get an email :( Personally, I like the detail on the struts..The geebling is very nice. email me directly? Henryisazn@hotmail.com Quote
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