Jgooffer Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 So I’m assembling this and after bag 3 I figure I check basic controls 1 steering works fine 2 dump mechanism works fine 3 drive mechanism not working instructions 46,47,48 is there a reason the shaft cannot spin parking brake ? the drive system works by turning wheels but the power of the motor never goes to the wheels ? Where can I find help ?? Quote
Jgooffer Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 I just rebuild the entire rear end again. I still can’t figure out how the left motor brings power to the 6x6 system. In any of the 3 purple shifting positions no power is transferred to the drive gears. Do I have the wrong instructions?? Have to figure out how to post pictures Quote
Jurss Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Put pictures on bricksafe.com, flickr or somewhere else, post link here, it will embed. Quote
anyUser Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Jgooffer said: 2 dump mechanism works fine 3 drive mechanism not working ... the drive system works by turning wheels but the power of the motor never goes to the wheels ? Can you tell if the XL motor turns when in drive mode or does it appear to stall? (Check gearbox and listen to noise from motor) If the motor is not turning it could be - wrong - alignment of the differentials Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Another bloody topic on this set! Has anyone been able to get this thing to work?! Quote
Jurss Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 I don't have it. It becomes interesting. Need to build, but I'm missing some two critical parts. Maybe time for first 2021 order. Quote
mortenm Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 I build it during the holidays - it works somewhat fine. It's a bit loud when driving, but I can't figure out why. It's in one of the rear diffs, but I can't get the gears further apart. Quote
allanp Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Can you record a video on your phone, post to YouTube and type the link here? Quote
anyUser Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Maaboo35 said: Another bloody topic on this set! Has anyone been able to get this thing to work?! Me - but it's just too big to regularly play with it. So I stopped after some test drives. Quote
Andman Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Jgooffer said: So I’m assembling this and after bag 3 I figure I check basic controls 1 steering works fine 2 dump mechanism works fine 3 drive mechanism not working instructions 46,47,48 is there a reason the shaft cannot spin parking brake ? the drive system works by turning wheels but the power of the motor never goes to the wheels ? Where can I find help ?? When you are turning the front axle, in which direction are the rear axles spinning? They should spin in the opposite direction? Min worked just fine, when i used it the last time. I can try it out again, just to exclude a possible general issue with the app. @Jgooffer, please double check this step: https://www.lego.com/cdn/product-assets/product.bi.core.pdf/6332383.pdf#page=31 Please have a very close look at the positioning of the purple cable holder and the driving rings 3l The upper driving ring has to be aligned to the right, the one in the middle has to be positioned in the middle and the bottom ring has to be on the right side while the puprle cable holder has to point upwards. When the first gear is engaged the cable holder points to you. In that case the upper and the lower driving ring are in the middle position on the axle. The middle driving ring is pushed to the right. When you are raising and lowering the dumper body the drive train is blocked by a clutch. That's waht you see/install at steps 46 to 48. Edited January 4, 2021 by Andman Quote
TeamThrifty Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Maaboo35 said: Another bloody topic on this set! Has anyone been able to get this thing to work?! yep. first time, drama free.. not sure why people have problems to be honest! Quote
Andman Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 1 hour ago, TeamThrifty said: yep. first time, drama free.. not sure why people have problems to be honest! OP obviously is experiencing issues. Weather due to hardware or software issues doesn't matter. That's why he is seeking for help. Great that you made it the first time. But your post is not helpful at all and superfluous. Quote
TeamThrifty Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Andman said: OP obviously is experiencing issues. Weather due to hardware or software issues doesn't matter. That's why he is seeking for help. Great that you made it the first time. But your post is not helpful at all and superfluous. No its not.. it adds balance. @Maaboo35 commented that many people were having issues... when you only hear one half of the story you're not getting the full picture. 42114 isn't a problem set, just needs care when aligning the gearbox.. which has already been pointed out to the OP. So my comment contributed... yours? Not so much Edited January 4, 2021 by TeamThrifty Quote
Andman Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TeamThrifty said: No its not.. it adds balance. @Maaboo35 commented that many people were having issues... when you only hear one half of the story you're not getting the full picture. 42114 isn't a problem set, just needs care when aligning the gearbox.. which has already been pointed out to the OP. So my comment contributed... yours? Not so much My contribution? Scroll up! Balance wont help the OP here ;-) 5 minutes ago, TeamThrifty said: 42114 isn't a problem set, just needs care when aligning the gearbox. Yes and no. I still experience issues with steering. Sometimes it just starts to steer left and right rapidly. But that's not related to the gearbox of course. As for the gearbox, i fully agree. You need to be careful. Edited January 4, 2021 by Andman typo Quote
1gor Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 5 hours ago, Maaboo35 said: Another bloody topic on this set! Has anyone been able to get this thing to work?! It looks that it is nothing more than expensive parts pack based on lots of shared experiences here on forum... Quote
TeamThrifty Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Just now, Andman said: Yes and now. I still experience issues with steering. Sometimes it just starts to steer left and right rapidly. I've seen problems with Apple devices. They seem less capable of doing things outside of the apple ecosystem. I have 42100 and 42114 C+ sets and have no issues with firmware updates or connectivity. Be interesting to know if different devices are more prone to issues Gearbox is just about accuracy. If its your first technic set, it could be confusing. I think there are many builders that follow the book without wondering what the mechanism is actually doing.. getting diffs backwards for example. Engaging with it, investigating any issues and resolving is as much fun as building... there were no forums in 1978 when i started my technic journey!! You figured it out!! 2 minutes ago, I_Igor said: It looks that it is nothing more than expensive parts pack based on lots of shared experiences here on forum... Thank you!! This is why we need balance... Honestly, its a great set and the build is very enjoyable. My top 3 builds are Arocs, BWE and 42114. If only the negatives are posted it gets tainted.. The claas for example for an awful build. Making lots of meaningless 'things' that eventually made sense. This is a proper build, just like the other 2 mentioned. Loved those 2, and this is great too. But it is expensive, i agree completely on that front.. Quote
1gor Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 @TeamThrifty here in Croatia set us very expensive (like Sian) and compatibility problem with PF elements does not help me in buying this set. Another problem is that new motors are 8 studs long and even L-motor is with 7 studs length on the edge for my MOCs...as you can see I'm a bit struggling with my telehandler... Quote
Jgooffer Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 Ok posting picture reply https://www.flickr.com/photos/191716429@N08/50801158217/ the gearbox seems to shift fine except never power to the bottom shaft with the strange white thing on it that can’t spin at all Quote
Andman Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jgooffer said: Ok posting picture reply https://www.flickr.com/photos/191716429@N08/50801158217/ the gearbox seems to shift fine except never power to the bottom shaft with the strange white thing on it that can’t spin at all Could you make the image publicly available? I don't have an account there and don't have the permission view it. The strange white thing is a clutch. This path of the gearbox is engaged when you lower or raise the dumper body. This prevents the Volvo from rolling away. So if you have a look from behind the purple cable holder can have the following positions: 03:00 - 1st gear 12:00 - 2nd gear 09:00 - 3rd gear 06:00 - drivetrain blocked (when lowering/raising the dumper body) Edited January 4, 2021 by Andman Quote
JaBaCaDaBra Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 7 hours ago, anyUser said: Me - but it's just too big to regularly play with it. So I stopped after some test drives. Exactly the same over here Quote
Jgooffer Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) Ok should be public now sorry learning curve Andman when you say 3 o’clock is that in driving direction ? the white and black thing under the box can’t turn is that the lock ?? For when dumping ? I Edited January 4, 2021 by Jgooffer Spelling Quote
TeamThrifty Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 3 o'clock is the rotational position... the hours of a clock are used to describe it? You must have come across it.. "Bandit at 6 o'clock!" etc.. Doesn't mean the Luftwaffe are coming round for tea at 6pm, it means they're directly behind you... Quote
Andman Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jgooffer said: Andman when you say 3 o’clock is that in driving direction ? @TeamThrifty, is right. Just look at the back of the Volvo. I had a look at your image. Seems to be ok. Quote
Jgooffer Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 Yes seems ok but doesn’t work I need to reassemble it as I ripped it apart. Does the white black piece at the bottom act as a parking brake ? Quote
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