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This is the first phase of my Railway Cannon project.

For those of you who don't know what a Railway Cannon is, it's basically a MASSIVE gun mounted on a railway carriage - the Germans used some absolutely enormous ones during WWII and this gun, although smaller, is very much based on the largest of these - the Schwerer Gustav, aka "Dora".

The TARC (Tabletown Army Railway Cannon) MkI- AKA the "Mighty Lizbet" is a 300mm Railway Cannon capable of projecting a high explosive shell over a distance of 25 miles.

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Go here for full information!

I plan on (eventually) building a locomotive, 2 troop wagons and a crane and ammunition carriage to go with the gun itself, but that will take time.

Dr. S.

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Sorry to say, but this isn't one of my favorites. It seems too low-tech compared to your other Tabletown MOCs. I think you should add side supports (Those fold down legs...whaddya call 'ems. :blush: ), add a mount to allow it to swivel, and shorten the barrel. Just to make it more futuristic. :classic:

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Sorry to say, but this isn't one of my favorites. It seems too low-tech compared to your other Tabletown MOCs. I think you should add side supports (Those fold down legs...whaddya call 'ems. :blush: ), add a mount to allow it to swivel, and shorten the barrel. Just to make it more futuristic. :classic:

Fair enough, but it's deliberately retro' - when LEGO Doctor Sinister says he wants something, it's best not to argue with him. :laugh:

Few railguns had side supports, I've seen some pix of a Russian one but it looked crap compared to the German ones I was modelling on. And as for the barrel length, that's really the whole point - the longer the better. Also, the largest ones didn't swivel, way too big for that, so they built special semi-circular track so the gun could move back and forth and angle for an aim that way - I'm trying to remain faithful to the subject matter here.

Dr. S.

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Fair enough, but it's deliberately retro' - when LEGO Doctor Sinister says he wants something, it's best not to argue with him. :laugh:

Few railguns had side supports, I've seen some pix of a Russian one but it looked crap compared to the German ones I was modelling on. And as for the barrel length, that's really the whole point - the longer the better. Also, the largest ones didn't swivel, way too big for that, so they built special semi-circular track so the gun could move back and forth and angle for an aim that way - I'm trying to remain faithful to the subject matter here.

Dr. S.

Aha! The mad genius went for nostalgia. If you need me, I'll be in the Arctic for a few years. I don't have fond memories of the last time your secret shock troops paid a visit! :cry_sad: (do you have a secret police? That'd be pretty sweet- dark green!)

You did a good job staying with the subject matter. However, I thought that since it uses rockets that I'm assuming are modern, wouldn't need as much of a long barrel.

As for the swiveling, I didn't know that. Interesting. :thumbup:

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Aha! The mad genius went for nostalgia. If you need me, I'll be in the Arctic for a few years. I don't have fond memories of the last time your secret shock troops paid a visit! :cry_sad: (do you have a secret police? That'd be pretty sweet- dark green!)

You did a good job staying with the subject matter. However, I thought that since it uses rockets that I'm assuming are modern, wouldn't need as much of a long barrel.

As for the swiveling, I didn't know that. Interesting. :thumbup:

It's not a rocket, it's a shell with sabot fins - check the linky for the full set of images and all will be explained. Like some modern tank rounds, the shells are using stabilising fins that unfold once the shell leaves the barrel. :wink:

Dr. S.

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It's not a rocket, it's a shell with sabot fins - check the linky for the full set of images and all will be explained. Like some modern tank rounds, the shells are using stabilising fins that unfold once the shell leaves the barrel. :wink:

Dr. S.

Whoops. I read the bit about the fins, but everything else seems to have gone in one ear and out the other- or should I say in one eye and out the other? :blush:

I just looked up railguns on Google, and this looked interesting.

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It's a German rail gun, but as you can see, it's on wheels. Pretty cool, but it doesn't look all that stable. :look:

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Whoops. I read the bit about the fins, but everything else seems to have gone in one ear and out the other- or should I say in one eye and out the other? :blush:

I just looked up railguns on Google, and this looked interesting.

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It's a German rail gun, but as you can see, it's on the ground. Pretty cool, but it doesn't look all that stable. :look:

I could be way off but that looks like one of the ones at the Aberdeen collection in the US - all their armour etc is just left out in the open on the ground, it's criminal in a way because the tanks etc are just rotting. Needless to say, I don't think that piece was originally designed to be used on the ground like that - it might have been modified? I dunno for sure - but if it is a railgun, they should bung it on some track at least, for display purposes.

Dr. S.

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Wooooah! That thing is bad<a-words>!

...and it's evidence enough that you shouldn't screw with tabletown.

Unfortunately, all albrickuerque has is some minutemen and the wierdos at hogwarts' albrickuerque campus.

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...and it's evidence enough that you shouldn't screw with tabletown.

In reality, although impressive and firing HUGE rounds that could sometimes totally demolish city fortifications in an instant, railway cannon weren't terribly effective - the largest German ones only ever fired a couple of dozen shots and they needed hundreds of men to man them - and a train a mile long to service, assemble and deploy! The resources could have been better used elsewhere.

This construction is really evidence of LEGO Doctor Sinister's utter insanity in insisting they build the thing. :classic: Oh, and I just thought it would be cool.

Dr. S.

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A very original idea, and well made too! Neat in size and proportions and with fine details. Mmh.... ice cream propulsion, cool! :sweet:

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While it is nice, a small canon can nowadays fire for up to 25 miles, so I'd give that a range of 80 miles+. Good work on it. Keep imporving your arsenal!

Stauder.

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While it is nice, a small canon can nowadays fire for up to 25 miles, so I'd give that a range of 80 miles+. Good work on it. Keep imporving your arsenal!

Stauder.

Well, I didn't want to go too OTT with the range and give a ridiculous figure - the point here being that it can fire a TWO TON shell 25 miles. :)

Dr. S.

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Heh, looking at that monster, I remember a quoe from the book "Pegasus Bridge," "Jesus, their firing Jeeps at us!"

Its pretty cool, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that creature's wrath. Though, weren't railguns a massive burden on the resources of the German army? Much like how the Maus tank never got finished?

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Heh, looking at that monster, I remember a quoe from the book "Pegasus Bridge," "Jesus, their firing Jeeps at us!"

Its pretty cool, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of that creature's wrath. Though, weren't railguns a massive burden on the resources of the German army? Much like how the Maus tank never got finished?

Absolutely - in reality, although impressive and firing HUGE rounds that could sometimes totally demolish city fortifications in an instant, railway cannon weren't terribly effective - the largest German ones only ever fired a couple of dozen shots and they needed hundreds of men to man them - and a train a mile long to service, assemble and deploy! The resources could have been better used elsewhere.

This construction is really evidence of LEGO Doctor Sinister's utter insanity in insisting they build the thing. Oh, and I just thought it would be cool. Someone on Flickr suggested it a couple of weeks ago.

Dr. S.

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Ah, so Sinister may be suffering from the classical dictator thinking of "bigger is better." Hitler had the Maus and the Ratte tanks.

Although, I have got a strange fascination of Armoured Trains, their many carriages of bunks, anti-tank guns, AA Guns, MG's, kitchens and offices. Thats the problem with the modern age, who really needs trains in sheets of armour, when you have freaking planes that go faster...

If you made one of those, I'd be as happy as Will from BrickArms announcing the release of British WW2 weapons and Minifigs.

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