Pirates Mafia - Day One

[Gordon Smith]

3 hours ago, Jack Alden said:

Nah!  Voting is not compulsory, which suggest it is actually avoidable.

These votes seem like wasted votes because he'll be walking the plank anyway if the bilge rat doesn't show up soon.

Just because voting is avoidable doesn’t mean it should be. Anyone who is looking to avoid voting should rightfully draw the ire of pirate loyalists. Making someone walk the plank is the pirates best method of rooting out these traitorous imperial scum bums.

And I disagree with the notion that these votes are wasteful. In fact, they’re quite telling. As you said yourself, voting early is pro-town. Anyone withholding their vote is doing so for a reason.

3 hours ago, Jack Alden said:

I think the point was that Remy hadn't put out a vote.

I don’t believe I was questioning Triggs decision to vote for Remy, but rather his initial statement, but I can see now that perhaps I mistook the context of Triggs’ statement.

[Henry Ogden]

And again, the seas go quiet.  Anyone else feel like voting?

[Nigel Clayton]

4 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

And again, the seas go quiet.  Anyone else feel like voting?

Agreed, you know there will be strict punishments for those who fail to give the black spot when it is called for.

[Remy Fontaine]

13 hours ago, Jack Alden said:

I think the point was that Remy hadn't put out a vote. 

As this also caught my attention, me will Vote: Remy Fontaine

Day one voting isn't compulsory, but me thinks it worth it to helps us find the Imperial scum.

Well... So not casting a vote first? Will result like a probable scumbag. Nay... 

I reckon Day 1 lynch will not result in any good cause and without good intention, it may as good as giving the Imperials the perfect win.... Furthermore, the votes are extremely divided now.. so what can we make up of it? 

[Malcolm Langley]

Arrrg! @Thomas Chapman I am still waiting for a reason behind the vote to make Barty walk the plank. I know it be day one and all but voting with no reason only helps the rum! Uh I mean scum! Been drinking to much rum. 

[Jane Thornton]

17 hours ago, Patrick Triggs said:

Avast ye, why must random voting be unavoidable?

Remy be courting opinion with none of his own. Arrrrr, had I a glove i wouldst slappeth thee about thine face, but my only weapon be the Vote: Remy Fontaine

Because as we're just meeting each other, what else, pray tell, do we use as cause to vote? It's pretty random.

13 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

I think we’ll all be better off if we consider it compulsory.  At the very least, we’ll be able to separate the true seamen from the bilgewater.  I’m hoping we have a lot of seamen on this ship.

Arrrr! Agreed, matey. Anyone not voting may not get official penalties (none listed in the rules) but the rest of us certainly should penalize them.

6 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

And again, the seas go quiet.  Anyone else feel like voting?

Um, don't know about you, but most of us were probably asleep (considering you posted that about 2AM EST)

 

Captain, what is the lynch criteria for this hunt? It's not given in the rules whether it's highest votes or a majority required.

Vote: Timothy Dixon

because you've been around today, but haven't voted yet. This is a blatant poke to get you to take a position. Arrrr! 

[Bob]

Vote Count:
Gordon Smith - 1 (Louisa)
Barty Brewster - 2 (Thomas, Henry)
Henry Ogden - 1 (Barty)
Alexander Pinkerton - 2 (Nigel, Gordon) 
Remy Fontaine - 2 (Patrick, Jack)
Thomas Chapman - 1 (Malcolm) 
Timothy Dixon - 1 (Jane) 

Reminder that it takes 8 votes to lynch! 
 

[Jane Thornton]

12 minutes ago, Bob said:

Reminder that it takes 8 votes to lynch! 

Thanks for the clarification! 

For the piratey record, I believe we DO need a lynch today, and my vote on Timothy (which obviously just spread the votes more) is temporary and a poke to get him to vote as well. I don't yet have a better reason to vote for anyone in particular. 

[Louisa Hammond]

20 hours ago, Patrick Triggs said:

Remy be courting opinion with none of his own. Arrrrr, had I a glove i wouldst slappeth thee about thine face, but my only weapon be the Vote: Remy Fontaine

As I said earlier, I be wanting a day one lynch. Also said earlier, Remy was on me list as a potential good lynch along with Bartholomew. Of the two, Remy be smelling more I thinks. 

Unvote: Gordon Smith

Vote: Remy Fontaine

1 hour ago, Jane Thornton said:

For the piratey record, I believe we DO need a lynch today, and my vote on Timothy (which obviously just spread the votes more) is temporary and a poke to get him to vote as well. I don't yet have a better reason to vote for anyone in particular. 

Feeling the need to explain ourselves are we? Guilty conscious might ye have? 

[Jane Thornton]

1 minute ago, Louisa Hammond said:

Feeling the need to explain ourselves are we? Guilty conscious might ye have? 

Not at all, my fellow pirate wench. Just clarifying, since spreading the vote out seems at odds with my desire for a lynch. But even a pirate can read a clock and see there's still many hours left in the day. 

[Timothy Dixon]

2 hours ago, Jane Thornton said:

Because as we're just meeting each other, what else, pray tell, do we use as cause to vote? It's pretty random.

Arrrr! Agreed, matey. Anyone not voting may not get official penalties (none listed in the rules) but the rest of us certainly should penalize them.

Um, don't know about you, but most of us were probably asleep (considering you posted that about 2AM EST)

 

Captain, what is the lynch criteria for this hunt? It's not given in the rules whether it's highest votes or a majority required.

Vote: Timothy Dixon

because you've been around today, but haven't voted yet. This is a blatant poke to get you to take a position. Arrrr! 

Shiver me timbers! I have been around today but I could only browse the discussion briefly without having time to put together any thoughts. I apologise. The votes are more spread out today. I think it would help if we narrowed down the choice of lynches to 2 or 3 as oppose to 7. Even if we don’t get a lynch today, at least it will reduce the one off votes and get a better idea of what people’s feelings are. 

Out of the lynches that have received multiple votes I’m more inclined to vote for Barry Brewster. He was called out (which is perfectly normal on Day One) but the responded by just voting. Remy’s comment earlier came off as role playing than anything else. So I’m happy to let it slide for now. Vote: Barty Brewster.

14 hours ago, Joseph Finch said:

and everyone talks aboot ‘analyzing reactions’ and such boot I can’t be saying I’ve seen too much from the first day be helpful all later on and like in me uhh... previous occupations before coming aboard this fine vessel. 

For Days 2 and 3? Maybe not. But as our time on this Imperial Ridden ship increases it can be useful to come back and look at the voting pattern. Especially when we might know the allegiance of some of the players. This is why I think it would be useful to narrow down the voting pool. Imperial Scum often like to spread their votes out. So by having 2 or 3 lynch choices it means that later on our voyage, when we have more information. It leaves a pretty good estimate as to where they were hiding in the votes. And therefore can narrow down options as to who the scum might be.

[Bartholomew Brewster]

17 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

A vote for you, so you jump in to throw a vote elsewhere immediately after?  Maybe it’s a coincidence, maybe it’s Imperial scum.  I’m willing to take that chance.

Vote: Bartholomew “Barty” Brewster

There was nothing to it so I felt there was nothing to respond to.  It was just a vote, just like mine.

17 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

I think we’ll all be better off if we consider it compulsory.  At the very least, we’ll be able to separate the true seamen from the bilgewater.  I’m hoping we have a lot of seamen on this ship.

14 hours ago, Gordon Smith said:

Just because voting is avoidable doesn’t mean it should be. Anyone who is looking to avoid voting should rightfully draw the ire of pirate loyalists. Making someone walk the plank is the pirates best method of rooting out these traitorous imperial scum bums.

And I disagree with the notion that these votes are wasteful. In fact, they’re quite telling. As you said yourself, voting early is pro-town. Anyone withholding their vote is doing so for a reason.

This I agree with.  Anyone not voting is afraid of being caught one way or the other.  No vote is wasteful as every vote is useful later on.  It may take a few days, but it will help eventually.

3 minutes ago, Timothy Dixon said:

Shiver me timbers! I have been around today but I could only browse the discussion briefly without having time to put together any thoughts. I apologise. The votes are more spread out today. I think it would help if we narrowed down the choice of lynches to 2 or 3 as oppose to 7. Even if we don’t get a lynch today, at least it will reduce the one off votes and get a better idea of what people’s feelings are. 

Out of the lynches that have received multiple votes I’m more inclined to vote for Barry Brewster. He was called out (which is perfectly normal on Day One) but the responded by just voting. Remy’s comment earlier came off as role playing than anything else. So I’m happy to let it slide for now. Vote: Barty Brewster.

A vote with nothing to it is just random.  There wasn't even a made up reason, such as they disliked my mustache.

I agree we should narrow down the vote to 2 or 3.  I'm leaving my vote on Henry as I think he has overreacted to my vote and ended up casting a revenge vote in my direction.

[Patrick Triggs]

3 hours ago, Jane Thornton said:

Because as we're just meeting each other, what else, pray tell, do we use as cause to vote? It's pretty random.

I find it curious that Jane answered a question that I posed to Laura...

We must remarketh that to vote in the wee hours is not to vote randomly, but observeth thou also that we never shall have complete information upon which to baseth our votes. To vote in a purportedly random fashion is to abdicate one's responsibility to listeneth to our remarks, which I think is irresponsible.

[Jane Thornton]

Well thank you Timothy. Your vote is noted and appreciated. 

Therefore, 

Unvote: Timothy Dixon

and

Vote: Joseph Finch

You also have not voted, and worse, you've stated you don't want a lynch today. That's become a common statement on the first day of my voyages lately, and I can absolutely see a soldier parroting that (hehehe, see my piratey pun there!) to look piratical. There is NO reason for the soldiers to not want a lynch (other than to look townie or if there was a bandwagon on a scum, but I mean in general). There is reason for a pirate to believe that, but I disagree with that logic. We are at a grave informational disadvantage, and the lynch is the best source of knowledge for us. 

[Louisa Hammond]

2 hours ago, Jane Thornton said:

Well thank you Timothy. Your vote is noted and appreciated. 

Therefore, 

Unvote: Timothy Dixon

and

Vote: Joseph Finch

You also have not voted, and worse, you've stated you don't want a lynch today. That's become a common statement on the first day of my voyages lately, and I can absolutely see a soldier parroting that (hehehe, see my piratey pun there!) to look piratical. There is NO reason for the soldiers to not want a lynch (other than to look townie or if there was a bandwagon on a scum, but I mean in general). There is reason for a pirate to believe that, but I disagree with that logic. We are at a grave informational disadvantage, and the lynch is the best source of knowledge for us. 

You've voted for two people now, both for the reason that they hadn't voted yet.

You've also stated that it's bad that Joseph Finch's doesn't want a lynch today. A statement which is highly unusual IMO since not wanting a day one lynch is a very normal opinion to have as either party.

Also, you pointed out yourself that you want a day one lynch but that you were aware you were spreading out the vote. 

Your latest vote is copy of your previous, both being you as the only person on their wagon and both for the same reason.

 

 

[Geoffrey Holton]

On 3/4/2019 at 12:52 PM, Gordon Smith said:

Pretty sure I am a human, just like everyone else. Hello, fellow humans, how do you do? What is this Fanuland you speak of?

If you're a human that'd make you a furry which is clearly worse. 

On 3/4/2019 at 4:34 PM, Timothy Dixon said:

Day one lynch/no lynch is always a messy situation. In the short run it doesn't appear to help us at all. But in the long run when we know the allegiances of more players things said and votes cast on Day One become more crucial. I'm slightly leaning towards a lynch. Purely because it's always interesting to see which players were pushing for the lynch and which players were more reserved. 

This feels rather wishy washy to me. Unless I'm mistaken Lynching people and analyzing their voting record is all we have to go off of at least this early in a game. as hard as it is to feel comfortable with a "random" Day 1 vote we really do have to lynch someone just so that we have something to work with tomorrow.

On 3/4/2019 at 4:38 PM, Joseph Finch said:

Random voting isn’t helpful, methinks. I never like making anyone walk the plank this early. 

Even though I disagree with your decision at least you have an opinion on the matter rather than oscillating between option, potentially setting yourself up to take advantage of either outcome.

I'm going to cast my vote for Vote: Timothy Dixon Thusfar his comments are the only ones that strike me as particularly scummy and even tho I appear now to be the only one voting for him, it strikes me as odd that he immediately voted after a slight "callout" vote after previously being on the fence. This all strikes me as middle-of the line scum-hiding tactics. 

[Thomas Chapman]

On 3/4/2019 at 3:07 PM, Jack Alden said:

Do you have a reason for voting for Barty specifically?

On 3/4/2019 at 4:57 PM, Malcolm Langley said:

Argg! Why do you even mention our dear lost friend (or traitor) if you don't end up voting for him? Any expl-o-nation as to why you cast a vote on Barty? 

11 hours ago, Malcolm Langley said:

Arrrg! @Thomas Chapman I am still waiting for a reason behind the vote to make Barty walk the plank. I know it be day one and all but voting with no reason only helps the rum! Uh I mean scum! Been drinking to much rum. 

My reasoning was he was one of the few crewmembers with a low post count, not including our MIA friend.

[Henry Ogden]

I’m happy with my vote on Barty at the moment.  Quoting me to say they agreed with me about voting, then supposing my vote on them was a revenge vote... are we not Pirates?  Pirates do not revenge vote, it’s simply not good strategy.  Especially when the initial vote was for a non-reason.  He might have well voted for the bird because birds are scummy.  You vote for your suspicions.

A second person on my radar is Louisa.  Lots of busy talk and being out front in the early hours, which is good, but maybe a little over-active and scattershot for my tastes on day one.  If a sudden pile-on were to form on her, I’d get in on it, but no reason to move my vote their now.  

Day one is looking like a non-lunch

And a non-lynch  

[Malcolm Langley]

1 hour ago, Thomas Chapman said:

My reasoning was he was one of the few crewmembers with a low post count, not including our MIA friend.

Arrg!!! Fare enough. I wish you would have stated that before, but no need to dwell on the past.

Unvote: Thomas Chapman

13 hours ago, Jane Thornton said:

Because as we're just meeting each other, what else, pray tell, do we use as cause to vote? It's pretty random.

Arrrr! Agreed, matey. Anyone not voting may not get official penalties (none listed in the rules) but the rest of us certainly should penalize them.

Um, don't know about you, but most of us were probably asleep (considering you posted that about 2AM EST)

 

Captain, what is the lynch criteria for this hunt? It's not given in the rules whether it's highest votes or a majority required.

Vote: Timothy Dixon

because you've been around today, but haven't voted yet. This is a blatant poke to get you to take a position. Arrrr! 

Arrrg! I agree with your thoughts on no voting. Any mate refusing to vote on fate ought to be under suspicion. However, I find it quite odd that in your very same sentence you speak of this, is the same as where you first draw a vote. What was your reason for not voting farther before the road. Voting had been opened for a fair amount of time before hand. This sounds to me like someone may be trying to claim poison from the same water they produce. Just thought I would point that out. I still agree, we all should vote. Those who are not ought to pay for the rum tonight. Pinkerton, Finch, and Fontaine this is a call to action for you. 

I have read up in the ancient books (yes I can read a word or two), and have found their being benefits and disadvantages to a day 1 lynch. On one hand, you could catch a spy quick and sick, you could also be able to examine voting records be it either result. On the other hook, you could be killing someone of great value. If there so happens to be lots of spies, you could also be given them help, by narrowing down the living bodies. It's a scary deal, but I see the hook having more blood then the hand. Day 1 lynches could be helpful but mostly are not and instead harmful. If we are to have a lynch, I would prefer it to be Mr. Pinkerton. He showed up drunk and unresponsive to the meet and greet, and has now failed make a single word appear from his smelly mouth. He is not very helpful at the current moment so I will

Vote Alexander Pinkerton

Better to remove the anchor to save the ship. 

[Joseph Finch]

On 3/4/2019 at 6:44 PM, Gordon Smith said:

Anyone who is looking to avoid voting should rightfully draw the ire of pirate loyalists... voting early is pro-town

I takes an issue or two with this peculiar statement that voting early is exclusively a piratey move. Soldiers often lead the mob to bring the hammer down on a poor innocent pirate before anyone knows what’s what. 

For lack of a better option, methinks I’ll Vote Gordon “The Furry” Smith 

12 hours ago, Jane Thornton said:

Vote: Joseph Finch

You also have not voted, and worse, you've stated you don't want a lynch today. That's become a common statement on the first day of my voyages lately, and I can absolutely see a soldier parroting that (hehehe, see my piratey pun there!) to look piratical. There is NO reason for the soldiers to not want a lynch (other than to look townie or if there was a bandwagon on a scum, but I mean in general). There is reason for a pirate to believe that, but I disagree with that logic. We are at a grave informational disadvantage, and the lynch is the best source of knowledge for us. 

Argg, I’ve returned from my daylong rum-induced coma to cast me vote. 

I don’t want a lynch because we’re far too likely to be making one of our own good pirates walk the plank, and like you said the soldiers should be trying to thin our numbers as quick as they can. I am of the type to want to be gathering more information and likenot before sentencing anyone to the sharks.

To yer other point, like I said before, there’s usually too many eel-guts and fish-eyes flying around the first day anywho for any of this to mean anything, even later on when we’re more learned as to the movings of the night. Have ye ever seen anybody convicted in a later day because of how or who they be voting fer on the first day?  

[Gordon Smith]

9 hours ago, Louisa Hammond said:

You've also stated that it's bad that Joseph Finch's doesn't want a lynch today. A statement which is highly unusual IMO since not wanting a day one lynch is a very normal opinion to have as either party.

Advocating for a no-lynch is, in my opinion, scummy. The scum are guaranteed a night kill of a pirate loyalist in most scenarios. A loyal pirates ability to combat that is to vote and lynch. To advocate against that is, in my opinion, playing into the hands of the scum. Not saying everyone advocating for it is scum, but I tend to be more suspicious of people who do so.

6 hours ago, Geoffrey Holton said:

If you're a human that'd make you a furry which is clearly worse.

Furries? On this pirate ship?

Where?

42 minutes ago, Joseph Finch said:

I takes an issue or two with this peculiar statement that voting early is exclusively a piratey move. Soldiers often lead the mob to bring the hammer down on a poor innocent pirate before anyone knows what’s what. 

For lack of a better option, methinks I’ll Vote Gordon “The Furry” Smith 

Argg, I’ve returned from my daylong rum-induced coma to cast me vote. 

Is there a reason you can think of to withhold your vote that is pro-town, Finch? I’d love to hear it.

Also, I never stated I wanted people to lead, merely to vote early. 

5 hours ago, Henry Ogden said:

He might have well voted for the bird because birds are scummy.  You vote for your suspicions.

Day one is looking like a non-lunch

We AAAARRGH? Huh. Never thought of us as being scummy by our nature.

I mean- hello, fellow humans! What great weather we’re having!

No lunch?

[Nigel Clayton]

I seems that there will be none that collect the 8 spots needed to be sent to the deep.  Be that for good or for ill of the crew we shall see.   Captain, how much longer before ye call it a day?

[Remy Fontaine]

Like the majority... I am aiming to get rid stowaways and a missing crew among us will be a good start. After all, it is 50/50 that we get it right and in most cases Day 1 lynch hardly got it right. 

Vote Alexander Pinkerton

[Louisa Hammond]

5 hours ago, Gordon Smith said:

Advocating for a no-lynch is, in my opinion, scummy. 

Unless me memory be failing me, it be a pretty 50/50 opinion between lynch and no lynch. Saying it be scummy for not wanting a lynch still be odd to me. I'm not defending those that don't want a lynch, I'm just more suspicious of those who suddenly think it's a scum tell for one to not want a day one lynch. An opinion which up until now I've never seen. There's always been debates about it, but never pointing fingers calling each other scum.

In Jane Thorton's case, I think she be grasping at straws trying to find reasonable reason to explain why she voted for those that she did. A BIG potential scum tell for myself personally. 

Could our fine captain update the vote count?

[Malcolm Langley]

I am not artsy professor, but doing the math 25/75 of findin scum is the more likely ratio on day 1. 

2 hours ago, Remy Fontaine said:

Like the majority... I am aiming to get rid stowaways and a missing crew among us will be a good start. After all, it is 50/50 that we get it right and in most cases Day 1 lynch hardly got it right. 

Vote Alexander Pinkerton