Did lego ever have church sets?

[Lyichir]

26 minutes ago, anothergol said:

No I don't want a "men of NASA", no one does, it'd be as ridiculous as women of NASA.
Some (not me because I don't care - even though I dig the Saturn V set) do want a "first man on the moon" set, not because they're SJW's, but because they're into space exploration, or great achievements. And here "Man" means "human", and it just happens that they're men, because.. History.
 

Anyway, I was just pointing out that Lego, in this case, had no choice but supporting a controversial subject.
I'm not kidding when I'm saying it's purely a feminist project, you can check for yourself the background of the one who did the project.
First, look at her (Maia Weinstock) other projects: feminist battlepacks. She does not care about NASA, she cares about women and just that. https://ideas.lego.com/profile/20tauri/entries. And check her story, she's an active feminist.

And lol, I'm not making this up, straight from her wikipedia:
Eventually, this included a submission to the Lego Ideas contest called the "Legal Justice League", which was designed to look like a courtroom built out of Legos, and contained miniature versions of Sandra Day O'Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan.^[8]The submission was declined by LEGO as being too political, which led to an increase in publicity for the project

So I hope that it's clear that "Women of NASA" isn't about NASA, and that the real reason it got voted is quite obvious.

What I did not know btw, is that the Research Institute set might already have been Lego's answer to feminists already attacking the company...
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28660069
I'm telling you, Lego was forced to make a decision here. So if you want Lego Ideas to accept a church project, you'll have to build a drama around it. I can't imagine it being easy, though. I'm sure you'd have more chances with a "Black handicapped chairwomen of Peru" project.

Well, considering that you can't do a "pioneers of NASA" without the true father of rockets, von Braun, who is also known for having developped the V2 for the nazis...... I can't imagine Lego doing it :)

Congratulations! You have successfully proven two things nobody on earth was disputing: that the creator of the Women of Nasa set is a feminist, and that feminists supported the project. However, you for some reason think that that is a bad thing (hint: it's not), or that it invalidates the project or its relevance to NASA (it doesn't). The whole point of Lego Ideas is to garner an audience that may not be being reached by Lego's existing products. So to point to feminists supporting a project like this is not some grand conspiracy—it is the realization of the Ideas program's core goals. And the fact that the Women of Nasa set became a bestseller proves that Lego's acceptance of the project was sound—they were not coerced into releasing it, as you claim, but realized what a potentially successful product the set would be (on top of the good PR it would provide).

You might be surprised to learn that feminism is (gasp!) A GOOD THING. The equality of men and women is in fact something to be strived for. That pursuit includes educating the public about the "unsung heroines" of history whose achievements helped to push forward human progress despite systemic barriers that prevented them from getting their names as widely known as the men who became the "public face" of achievements like the moon landing. Could a more broadly focused set featuring male historical icons have the potential for success as well? Absolutely! But guess what? This project was the one up for consideration, not one featuring your idol von Braun, and its popularity upon release proves that there was no good reason for Lego NOT to approve it. So please do everyone here a favor and quit whining about the evil feminists bullying a poor defenseless toy company into taking their money.
 

[anothergol]

32 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

or that it invalidates the project or its relevance to NASA (it doesn't)

It does. The horde who voted it, does not care about NASA. It's far from the worst thing they've done, though - it's just a fun fact.

32 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

So to point to feminists supporting a project like this is not some grand conspiracy—it is the realization of the Ideas program's core goals

No it's not. As I pointed out, Ideas rules out political stuff, and her previous attempts were rejected. Lego did not want this, they had no choice.

Besides, Ideas projects would ideally be picked for their qualities, by people who would buy the sets. I doubt that many in the horde cared about Lego enough to actually buy it. I make no difference between the horde voting this set, and 4Chan voting "Boaty McBoatface".
 

32 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

You might be surprised to learn that feminism is (gasp!) A GOOD THING.

It used to be. And it's still a good thing in many countries in which women hardly have any right.

In our countries, it has just become silly. Women like Anita Sarkeesian, Laci Green, or the most pycho fo them all, Zarna Joshi, have made it a mockery.
But it's not just feminists, it's all SJW's in general who are a nuisance to this world, & freedom of speech.

32 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

The equality of men and women is in fact something to be strived for.

Exactly. That's what feminism SHOULD be about.

Equality of men & women should mean that both should have equal chances to, say in this case, become an astronaut. It shouldn't mean forcing women/making it easier for women to become astronauts so that each rocket hosts as many women as men. If it happens that less women than men are training to become astronauts, just consider that *maybe*, *maybe* it's because women are less interested in that. Because men & women, while being equal, are different.
 

32 minutes ago, Lyichir said:

despite systemic barriers that prevented them from getting their names as widely known as the men who became the "public face" of achievements like the moon landing

Yeah yeah it's a conspiracy against women that these were kept unknown, on purpose.

Go on the street and ask anyone to name famous names from the NASA. In the best case you'll get: Armstrong & Aldrin. Perhaps also Chris Hadfield these days.
And that is ALL. People don't know all those in the shadow, men or women. It's not sexism, it's just that people only remember the ones put into light, which is normal. It's like in Olympics where no one wants a silver medal because people only care for the gold ones.
There's not even room for the OTHER men who walked on the moon, that says it all.

 

Edited November 27, 2018 by anothergol

[Kalahari134]

9 hours ago, Dorayaki said:

Aside from Christmas, to me the fairest use for non-religious use of a church might be weddings.

Personally, I think that a Winter Village set based on a chapel might be a good idea. It needn't have a religious function, just have that sort of architecture and maybe a choir.

[anothergol]

21 minutes ago, Kalahari134 said:

and maybe a choir.

Ah, that OTHER controversial thing Lego has made :)

I just love it that Lego has produced this. Surely they knew what they were doing.

[Peppermint_M]

Okay, seeing as this is devolved into a stupid argument, I am going to lock it and keep an eye on certain members to see if their behaviour here is repeated elsewhere.