How would you build this dormer window?

[MrTotoro]

First off – I don't have much experience with this site, so please tell me if I should post this question in another place/topic than in "General Discussion".

So, how would you build this https://i.imgur.com/XxheNnn.jpg dormer window? (The image is fairly large so be sure to zoom in). I'm decently experienced with mocing and LDD but I'm having a really tough time with this.

What makes it even more difficult is that I don't want it to be a fake window since I'm planning to have a full interior including attic rooms. Also the roof has to be sand blue (luckily 2x3 and 2x4 wedge plates are available in that color, among others).

Not that it would help you much, but this https://i.imgur.com/9tHWJF2.png is how far I got... Obviously the bricks are floating right now, I have no clue how to connect them to each other and to the main roof while having enough space to fit the window frame close under there and having accessible space on the inside under the dormer roof.

So, if anyone here has some time to kill to try to find a solution to this (either in LDD or Stud.io, but preferably LDD), that would be amazing.

Cheers :)

Edited October 31, 2018 by MrTotoro

[imvanya]

It looks like you pasted the same link to the reference image twice.

[MrTotoro]

1 hour ago, imvanya said:

It looks like you pasted the same link to the reference image twice.

Edited, thanks for the heads up.

[imvanya]

Maybe, some of the official sets could be helpful? For instance, https://brickset.com/sets/10229-1/Winter-Village-Cottage or the buildings from https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Elves? And do check this topic 

If there's a place to come across interesting building techniques for houses, it is there.

As for more specific suggestions, could these work?

Edited November 1, 2018 by imvanya

[zux]

It is possible to create a slope with plates placing them gradually on increasing distance from centre. Also having a brick-built window could be helpful since the studs on top of existing window frame aren't going to help you with compact solution.

[MrTotoro]

11 hours ago, imvanya said:

Maybe, some of the official sets could be helpful? For instance, https://brickset.com/sets/10229-1/Winter-Village-Cottage or the building from https://brickset.com/sets/theme-Elves? And do check this topic 

If there's a place to come across interesting building techniques for houses, it is there.

As for more specific suggestions, could these work?

I actually imported 10229 among others into my LDD project, but the Cottage's dormer window is too different, it's too wide and the window is placed too low under the dormer roof slopes (in the artist's cottage it's really tightly fit directly under the slopes). I tried the techniques used in 10229's dormer but they just used too much space. I'll check out the Elves sets, perhaps there is a useful technique in there.

That's a great thread! But SO much to look through

I haven't thought of those technic pieces with a pin hole + studs on top, I'll try them out.

30 minutes ago, zux said:

It is possible to create a slope with plates placing them gradually on increasing distance from centre.

Sorry, could you elaborate on what you mean by this? :)

[zux]

I meant something like this:

You might want to use slopes, curved slopes, jumper plates instead of plates. Or you can have sides built with such sloped approach and top built separately.

 

Edited November 1, 2018 by zux

[MrTotoro]

Ahh, I see! Thanks for the suggestion.

[imvanya]

37 minutes ago, zux said:

I meant something like this:

Made me wanna try it myself:

Also tried this:

[zux]

15 minutes ago, imvanya said:

Made me wanna try it myself:

I did similar thing with one of my modular's roof seen here (the smaller bit). With the second option you can do another trick - if you have your plates extended one stud over the window, you can add extra plate below plates/tiles of the roof to hide holes resulted of odd shaping.

Edited November 1, 2018 by zux

[imvanya]

Just now, zux said:

I did similar thing with one of my modular's roof seen here (the smaller bit)

That is very nice. Cheese slopes look really good as roof tiles, but unfortunately it does take quite some space to build a roof like that, as you pointed out in the description.

[Grover]

soccerkid6 uses a lot of nice techniques for these windows:

 

 

[MrTotoro]

5 hours ago, imvanya said:

Also tried this:

This looks like a good and stable solution!

4 hours ago, Grover said:

soccerkid6 uses a lot of nice techniques for these windows:

 

 

Holy moly. His dormers are basically exactly what I need. But I can't figure out 1. how he connected them to the roof and 2. if they are even connected by legal techniques.

[zux]

2 hours ago, MrTotoro said:

But I can't figure out 1. how he connected them to the roof and 2. if they are even connected by legal techniques.

Assembled parts might be just floating without being interconnected. Wedged plates could be connected with one of those bricks with studs on two corners. Round bricks are not attached to anything.

Btw. there's another guide by the same builder. You can check if any other his idea is close to yours.

[MrTotoro]

Bummer that they are probably just floating :/

Thanks! Even if I don't find a solution in there it's a fantastic resource. Great builder.