Hardship of Destroying Old Mocs for New?

[Brickmaster]

Well, lately, Ive been kindof on a moc spree. Rather large models at that - and its simply draining my supply of bricks, and now that thats happened, I am having utter hardship of destroying them for parts - I'm proud of them, and they're pretty! |-/

Not only am I wondering if there is a cure to this - but also if this happens to anyone else? Need the parts, but just cant break the mindset of keeping it togeather?

Right now Im having those thoughts with my first moc, the dropship, so many nice parts on it I would like to use, yet I can barely think of scrapping it :'-( Ive taken pictures, and I know the thing inside out, yet, if its gone, its gone for good.

Argh! *sing* Does anybody else go through this? :-(

Sorry if topics like this arent allowed. Just wanted to share my thoughts, if it's bad, It wont happen again! :-$

[hollisbrick]

thats also a bit like me,when i make alternate models for sets i *wub* so much i cant ut them back to normal.

[ExoBuilder]

I feel for you Brickmaster, I feel for you :'-( Same thing with me, I've been building alot of MOC's lately and I noticed my pieces count keeps getting smaller and smaller, well, my good pieces count X-D

There has to be a cure for this, I can't buy Lego that often considering I'm not old enough for a job yet....

*sad*

[Starwars4J]

I refuse to give in X-D Actually I've only recently started breaking down my old MOCs from when I was like, 5. And only those that I don't hold any attachment to, and are so poor with comparison to my current abilities that they make me cringe.

My advice is that, basically if you want the parts for a new MOC, but really want to keep your old ones together, just wait. Wait and BL what you need, and wait until you have the cash if necessary. It'll take longer, but at least you won't have any regrets. Besides, the extra time will give you the ability to reflect more and refine your design in your head and on paper before actually building it

[Hewman]

Well, lately, Ive been kindof on a moc spree. Rather large models at that - and its simply draining my supply of bricks, and now that thats happened, I am having utter hardship of destroying them for parts - I'm proud of them, and they're pretty! |-/

Not only am I wondering if there is a cure to this - but also if this happens to anyone else? Need the parts, but just cant break the mindset of keeping it togeather?

Right now Im having those thoughts with my first moc, the dropship, so many nice parts on it I would like to use, yet I can barely think of scrapping it :'-( Ive taken pictures, and I know the thing inside out, yet, if its gone, its gone for good.

Argh! *sing* Does anybody else go through this? :-(

Sorry if topics like this arent allowed. Just wanted to share my thoughts, if it's bad, It wont happen again! :-$

I can't destroy them either so I end up having to buy multiples of sets so I can have one in the original condition and one with parts used for another creation, it's an expensive personality quirk! So you're definitely not alone there.

[gylman]

I have a very hard time with this as well. I'm not a prolific builder these days, and when I do something decent I don't have the heart to part with it. My Gylman's Diner killed my supply of gray tiles and white everything.

It's not only a parts issue, it's a space issue.... where does one put all the stuff?

Very hard.

[john cleese]

I disagree, don't go BL'ing everytime you run out of pieces, I know it's hard to dismantle old MOCs but I have brought myself to do it every now and then. Infact, the three items I currently have posted on my BS account are all dismantled. I can pull apart old MOC's because I know that my MOCing can only improve and I'll eventually make something bigger and better. Call me a hippy, commy, whatever but I think the fact that everytime an afol uses up all his/her parts on models, they buy a bunch of new parts from Bricklink, reflects our mentality as privileged citizens. But think about it, if this continued the market would be purged of perfectly good parts because of greedy Afol's with more buying power. While you have 4 old-skool technic motors, some other kid has 0, where's the justice in that? Anyway, it's your choice, that's just my 2 cents.

Edited December 13, 2007 by john cleese

[Starwars4J]

I disagree, don't go BL'ing everytime you run out of pieces, I know it's hard to dismantle old MOCs but I have brought myself to do it every now and then. Infact, the three items I currently have posted on my BS account are all dismantled. I can pull apart old MOC's because I know that my MOCing can only improve and I'll eventually make something bigger and better. Call me a hippy, commy, whatever but I think the fact that everytime an afol uses up all his/her parts on models, they buy a bunch of new parts from Bricklink, reflects our mentality as privileged citizens. But think about it, if this continued the market would be purged of perfectly good parts because of greedy Afol's with more buying power. While you have 4 old-skool technic motors, some other kid has 0, where's the justice in that? SirNadroj buys a whole new load of 1x1 plates everytime he makes a mosaic, and not to deeply offend him but this annoys me to no end and I dont understand why he cant use different sized plates to achieve the same effect. (I forget if he glues them down) Anyway, it's your choice, that's just my 2 cents.

You are just a timebomb, aren't you? Sure you're entitled to your own opinion, but to go out of your way to insult someone else is entirely uncalled for. And I'm not just talking about Sirnadroj's mosaics (even though it's really none of your business), but to call any AFOL who buys more off BL greedy? Do you forget that they also give something up when they buy from BL? Sure, you end up with some, and someone else ends up with none (though with the hundreds of thousands of each type of part out there, that really will never happen) some unfortunate kid has zero, but guess what? There is the "justice" in that, because they paid for those parts.

You think it's unfair that kids with less money than adults, when those adults work for that money. Seriously, try to think about it from all points of view. If people didn't continually buy more (and the supply is great), there would really be no point in Lego producing any more.

[john cleese]

You are just a timebomb, aren't you? Sure you're entitled to your own opinion, but to go out of your way to insult someone else is entirely uncalled for. And I'm not just talking about Sirnadroj's mosaics (even though it's really none of your business), but to call any AFOL who buys more off BL greedy? Do you forget that they also give something up when they buy from BL? Sure, you end up with some, and someone else ends up with none (though with the hundreds of thousands of each type of part out there, that really will never happen) some unfortunate kid has zero, but guess what? There is the "justice" in that, because they paid for those parts.

You think it's unfair that kids with less money than adults, when those adults work for that money. Seriously, try to think about it from all points of view. If people didn't continually buy more (and the supply is great), there would really be no point in Lego producing any more.

it was my eventual decision to remove that comment as it is sort of an insult, whether it's intended as such or not. I'm not a time bomb! I removed that particular remark, even before you made your post, just barely. I'm sorry but I really thought long and hard about whether or not to post it in the first place, I started writing it some 30 minutes ago. What annoys me to no end now is I didn't manage to get away with any of it. And I'm sure you'll leave it up there for everyone to see regardless, heck you might even alert Sir.N (although if you removed it nobody would have to know) and I can live with that. So SirNaroj, I'm Very Very sorry, I have no buisness talking about your MOC's like that and I am actually very fond of your work.

As for calling some Afols greedy perhaps I stand by it. If they never take apart anything and just keep building and building new moc's not recycling their parts ever, isnt that greed?

I just knew this would spark off something I couldnt control as usual. Oh the humanity.

Edited December 13, 2007 by john cleese

[iamded]

Well, I took apart all my Necrobots in favour of my Castle display. But that's not really the same as the Necrobots can be easily recreated. I know how you feel though, I wouldn't want to take apart my mech, one of my decent creations. :-/ :-)

~Peace

[Axle]

I usually take them apart as soon as I build them.

I really dislike my mocs!

I don't know what to do with the bricks, so I might download some Idea Book instrucions.

I have a suggestion, if you have them, in your old MOCs just replace the bricks with similar coloured ones.

Heres a few similar ones:

Tan=Grey

Black= Dark Bley

Red= Yellow.

Any more anyone?

[SlyOwl]

I usually take them apart as soon as I build them.

I really dislike my mocs!

I take them apart as soon as they're on Brickshelf...I hate to part with them, but I'm not rich enough to store them; I don't have the space, or the parts - each MOC I make completely drains me of certain colours (mainly brown and green!). Alos, I'm just going to build something better anyway...

SlyOwl

[Brick Miner]

i have never had this problem, because everytime i start a new project i go straight to MLCad and then to BL. anymore, i never just sit down with a bunch of loose pieces and build... it's kinda sad, but cheaper and more effective.

- BM

[Siegfried]

I still haven't broken any major finished MOCs... but I suspect that time is coming soon! Since I have under 10 major MOCs it isn't that surprising. :-$ But I have broken many half finished ones, and many small ones. All vigs I do for here I break very soon after (my princess one is still together though), but I take enough photos of them to be able to re-build them anyway. My ship Strife will probably be recycled soon due to its size. :'-(

i have never had this problem, because everytime i start a new project i go straight to MLCad and then to BL. anymore, i never just sit down with a bunch of loose pieces and build... it's kinda sad, but cheaper and more effective.

- BM

Lego CAD programs don't work for me. Admitadly I haven't tried that much, but I need the physicalitiy of bricks to build stuff. For example, my ship Strife is balanced to sit on it's landing pads. I actually needed to remove 2 stud lengths of pieces at a late stage when I found the nose was becoming too heavy. Additionally, the curved wall couldn't take the weight as well as I thought so it needed structual struts at a late stage.... I can go on. Stuff like that you can't do in CAD. Additionally, I spent time in front of a mirror testing out swoosh-ability and I made some mods because of that. :-$

I refuse to give in X-D Actually I've only recently started breaking down my old MOCs from when I was like, 5.

Is that a joke? 8-

[Brick Miner]

Lego CAD programs don't work for me. Admitadly I haven't tried that much, but I need the physicalitiy of bricks to build stuff. For example, my ship Strife is balanced to sit on it's landing pads. I actually needed to remove 2 stud lengths of pieces at a late stage when I found the nose was becoming too heavy. Additionally, the curved wall couldn't take the weight as well as I thought so it needed structual struts at a late stage.... I can go on. Stuff like that you can't do in CAD. Additionally, I spent time in front of a mirror testing out swoosh-ability and I made some mods because of that. :-$

hmm... interesting. i haven't come across any weights problems, etc. yet. maybe my style is too simple (or at least rooted to a baseplate) to ever come across stuff like that. however, i do always make sure to use plenty of overlapping techniques, so that i rarely run into structural issues, once built in real life... enough overlapping is something easily missed in the digital world.

- BM

[alex54]

anymore, i never just sit down with a bunch of loose pieces and build...

Really? This is exactly what I do! I've an idea of a moc, and I try to build it with my pieces which are everywhere in my room.

Lego CAD programs don't work for me. Admitadly I haven't tried that much, but I need the physicalitiy of bricks to build stuff.

I prefer to build in real too. The virtual building experience is not for me.

I like the idea of not having all the pieces I need, it gives me more constraints, which is good for imagination.

Anyway. It's hard for me to destroy my old mocs, but I do it. For my town, after spending hours and hours building a new layout and taking pictures, I store it. And few months later, I decided to improve it. I have tried to just improve my old buildings, but the result is not really good. So it's hard for me, but like a storm, I destroy everything. And I restart building from nothing. And the result is better each time. Building/destroying gives you more experiment in construction I think.

[Starwars4J]

Is that a joke? 8-

[Siegfried]

All true, hell I have my first two MOCs on a shelf in my den because although they're so bad I just can't make myself tear them apart :-$

Any chance of you sharing some pictures of them?

[LuxorV]

Yesterday I dismantelled the Hinckley Special and the WereWolf :'-(

It has been hard, but I need their pieces elsewhere, since I don't have much of them |-/ .

Fortunately, with digital cameras, you can take a lot of pics and make sort of building instructions so you can re-build your MOCs later :-$ (always depending on MOC's complexity 8-| ).

LuxorV

[Batbrick]

I find it hard to destroy things of mine.

My beloved batbrick Cave was taken apart, as was my Broken down building I just made two days ago :'-(

My post-apoc base remains though, and as by the poll results, has been improved! *skull*

Nothing to Say, but Batbrick Away! >:-)

[Starwars4J]

Any chance of you sharing some pictures of them?

I'm in the middle of studying for finals, but took this time just for you *wub*

Warning: they're extremely dusty from sitting on a shelf

Here's my first baby: a spaceship that was too small to fit a fig. The first microscale ever, perhaps?

And here's my second: I house! Includes a tree to help the environment or something, and a door! I was such a clever kid *wub* :-P I was seriously like 3-5 years old...god that color scheme *wacko*

Seeing this horrid MOCs with this photography makes me laugh for some reason...

[ExoBuilder]

I'm in the middle of studying for finals, but took this time just for you *wub*

Warning: they're extremely dusty from sitting on a shelf

Here's my first baby: a spaceship that was too small to fit a fig. The first microscale ever, perhaps?

And here's my second: I house! Includes a tree to help the environment or something, and a door! I was such a clever kid *wub* :-P I was seriously like 3-5 years old...god that color scheme *wacko*

Seeing this horrid MOCs with this photography makes me laugh for some reason...

Um...*Cough*....wow...they're uh....great?

They're pretty good for a 3-5 year old.

[blueandwhite]

Larger MOCs like castles are pretty easy to break down. Simply put, when I need the bricks; the castle is toast. Smaller MOCs I tend to leave together. Heck, alot of MOCs like my Batmobiles will probably never be completely destroyed. I tinker with them from time to time, but there aren't enough essential bricks in either one for me to destroy them for parts. Brickmoor is still in the process of being converted into a larger castle which has been taking me over a year to finish (constant part shortages in certain areas).

[Siegfried]

I'm in the middle of studying for finals, but took this time just for you *wub*

:-$ Thanks! For a 3-5 year old, I think they are pretty good. I love the enviro house. :-P My boy (who is about 5) after watching Beast Wars season 2 was inspired by the giant head that Megatron became. At first I thought this was a good thing, but he just ripped off the head of a Piraka and told me "This is a head ship". :-| On the rare occasion that he does make something good it tends to be crashed by him half an hour later.... which leads me to my question; was this your decision to keep these when you were 5? If so I am stunned; you would have been a quite remarkable child... I wanted to keep a lot of my stuff but I always wanted to build more! :-P Eitherway you are so lucky to have these. Thanks very much for taking the time. *wub*

[Brickmaster]

Awe, those are so cute *wub* I recall my father having pictures of me and my early creations from when I was 5 or so, if I had a scanner I would show yall.