Kingdoms Mafia - Day Two

[Lady K]

Thank you for showing up and being honest about your vote yesterday Mr. Anderson.

I have to agree with Mr. Orann that there is probably three assassins amongst us. Now I know you have been on me about not establishing my voting record yesterday by not voting, but let me tell you my theory on the results of yesterday on those who did and didn't vote.

We had 12 members to start with. Six voters and six non-voters.

Voted: Blost and Banning voted for Fitzwilliam, Orann, and Fitzwilliam voted for Banning, Anderson and Upswich voted for Skarbin.

Non-voters: Radford, Moreton, Skarbin, Glanred, Almoner (myself), Messell

Now then, with three two votes each candidates, Upswich changes his vote (to be the hammer deciding vote) from Skarbin to Banning. Thus giving Banning three votes and Banning is lynched who then takes Upswich as the hammer vote with him to his death. Both turn up town, along with Messell who is killed doing a recon mission alone at night.

That leaves, left alive, Blost (voted Fitzwilliam), Orann and Fizwilliam (voted Banning), and Anderson (voted Skarbin). As well as five of the non-voters (myself included).

Given that I feel there are probably three assassins, I would venture that at least two hid in those that did place a vote knowing that those of us who didn't place a vote would come under scrutiny today. And I would even venture to say that at least one if not two are hiding in those who are active, again knowing those who post very little will come under heavier scrutiny than those that are appearing to be helpful by simply posting.

So we have Blost, Orann, Fitzwilliam, Anderson (those who voted) and Radford, Moreton, Skarbin, Glanred, Almoner -me, (non-voters) to choose from. I included myself here due to no one else but myself knowing that I am loyal to the king. Again I would wager that two assassins are among the four that voted and one is among the non-voters.

Since no else commented on my theory, I'll add more to this discussion then. Based on the fact that I was under scrutiny until I posted this and now I seem to be a forgotten topic of conversation, I feel that at least one scum (if not two) are hiding in the Blost, Fitzwilliam, Orann trio. Why you ask? Well, look at the voting from yesterday; Blost and Banning voted for Fitzwilliam, Fitzwilliam and Orann voted for Banning. Banning was lynched, turned town and the voting was then scrutinized by those who did vote on those who didn't. The fact that Orann, Fitzwilliam, and poor Upswich (who also turned town) voted for Banning was not even really looked at.

Blost then swayed the focus on those of us who didn't vote, particularly me. Why you ask again? Well, with half of us not voting the scum can't hide in the votes as easily as say if most or all of us had voted. They stand out more in the voting record. Now I was fine being questioned repeatedly, while others stayed relatively quiet. However with this last post by me with my theory the focus now seems to be on.........wait for it........the possibility of an SK in a small game. Wow, what about who voted for the poor lost townie? Or who they were suspicious of? No one seems to be interested in these topics.

Which means there could be an SK around here....

I really doubt that unless it was two scum and one SK. The game is too small for a non-restricted SK and 3 person scum team.

But an SK with so few? That'd make for a SUPER fast game. I'd be surprised if there is a 3rd party in something this small. Except for the fact that 3 scum seems too many and 2 seems too few. Maybe there's some sort of non-killing independent role? Cult? Too few people. Survivor/lyncher? Maybe, but why? Jester? They'd have been obvious by now. So is there anything else that could effectively be like half a scum to balance things? Like there's 2 scum plus something else? A SK is too much for that, since it's adding a full kill. Unless it's a partial-SK, meaning they only have 1 or 2 kills or something like that.

And yes, I'm just speculating about mechanics since there's not a ton else going on. We've harassed Sir Eustace there today and not a whole lot of other conversation, so I'm just talking to take my mind off of wanting a drink...

But there is more to talk about. What about the fact that you and Fitzwilliam both voted for Banning? Or that Banning voted for you?

For the record, I am in touch with the investigator, I have been investigated as town. If anyone wants to claim, I won't demand it since I'm not perfectly cleared, but on a hunch, you could trust me and we could bulldoze the scumbums.

Nice to know. It is about time we bring those traitors to swift justice! For the king!

[KotZ]

I mean it is possible if there's only two scum and one SK running around, Sir Eustace.

[mostlytechnic]

Since no else commented on my theory, I'll add more to this discussion then. Based on the fact that I was under scrutiny until I posted this and now I seem to be a forgotten topic of conversation, I feel that at least one scum (if not two) are hiding in the Blost, Fitzwilliam, Orann trio. Why you ask? Well, look at the voting from yesterday; Blost and Banning voted for Fitzwilliam, Fitzwilliam and Orann voted for Banning. Banning was lynched, turned town and the voting was then scrutinized by those who did vote on those who didn't. The fact that Orann, Fitzwilliam, and poor Upswich (who also turned town) voted for Banning was not even really looked at.

Blost then swayed the focus on those of us who didn't vote, particularly me. Why you ask again? Well, with half of us not voting the scum can't hide in the votes as easily as say if most or all of us had voted. They stand out more in the voting record. Now I was fine being questioned repeatedly, while others stayed relatively quiet. However with this last post by me with my theory the focus now seems to be on.........wait for it........the possibility of an SK in a small game. Wow, what about who voted for the poor lost townie? Or who they were suspicious of? No one seems to be interested in these topics.

I stopped questioning you because you responded and there was no need to beat a dead horse. I haven't grilled others as much because they haven't said enough to grill them on yet.

But there is more to talk about. What about the fact that you and Fitzwilliam both voted for Banning? Or that Banning voted for you?

I gave my reason for voting Banning yesterday when I did it. I kept it there because there was no better choice to vote for. I voted at all beacause that's what townies do. It's our weapon against the scum. And it's going on record. Yep, I voted for a loyal townie. I didn't know that at the time or I wouldn't have done it, obviously. But day 1 votes are almost always lynches of town, just based on the odds. It's more important because it starts a voting record - the reason I was pushing people to vote and complaining about those who didn't. You're probably right that some scum voted early and some not at all, since they want to hide in the crowds. I'm not going so far as to make scum accusations based on a single vote though. You may be right that Blost or Fitz are scum, I don't know. I only know my own allegiance at this point. You should check your facts though - Banning didn't vote for me, he voted for Fitzwilliam.

[JackJonespaw]

You should check your facts though - Banning didn't vote for me, he voted for Fitzwilliam.

I know some people like to investigate the first day lynchee's votes, but let's be honest - the late Corporal's vote was as flimsy as the rest of ours. I'll say it, a first day vote is generally 100% of the time flimsy. I'm sure Sir Orann and myself, as well as Sir Bloast only voted because we couldn't get anywhere without not lynching, at least, in my opinion. Basically, Orann sums up my thoughts above.

[jluck]

For the record, I am in touch with the investigator, I have been investigated as town. If anyone wants to claim, I won't demand it since I'm not perfectly cleared, but on a hunch, you could trust me and we could bulldoze the scumbums.

Given my opinions on the speed at which the town needs to operate and the likelihood that the sergeant is investigated first, I'm inclined to believe this as well.

[Dragonfire]

You have approximately 24 and a half hours remaining.

Vote Tally remains the same as it did before.

[Umbra-Manis]

The sargent's claim seems reasonable. Any info is welcome given how little we've learned.

[Lady K]

I stopped questioning you because you responded and there was no need to beat a dead horse. I haven't grilled others as much because they haven't said enough to grill them on yet.

I gave my reason for voting Banning yesterday when I did it. I kept it there because there was no better choice to vote for. I voted at all beacause that's what townies do. It's our weapon against the scum. And it's going on record. Yep, I voted for a loyal townie. I didn't know that at the time or I wouldn't have done it, obviously. But day 1 votes are almost always lynches of town, just based on the odds. It's more important because it starts a voting record - the reason I was pushing people to vote and complaining about those who didn't. You're probably right that some scum voted early and some not at all, since they want to hide in the crowds. I'm not going so far as to make scum accusations based on a single vote though. You may be right that Blost or Fitz are scum, I don't know. I only know my own allegiance at this point. You should check your facts though - Banning didn't vote for me, he voted for Fitzwilliam.

My only point was that none of this was discussed first before the focus on those who didn't vote. Town must look at all info on Day 2 not just a single part. Now it is in the open for further review.

I did check my facts, maybe you should have read all of my post. I did state that Banning voted for Fitzwilliam in the part above the part where I misstated that Banning voted for you. My apologies for the mistake, it was late and I was tired and had/have a migraine I didn't mean to confuse anyone.

[def]

Given my opinions on the speed at which the town needs to operate and the likelihood that the sergeant is investigated first, I'm inclined to believe this as well.

The sargent's claim seems reasonable. Any info is welcome given how little we've learned.

That said, few seem interested in taking me up on my offer

Score one up for lazy town.

[Mencot]

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Well, lads, 3:3 isn't preferable for a Day 3, and I'd much rather turn that into a, say, 2:5, obviously.

Unfortunately for us, the number of assassins won't go down if we don't do anything about it. So I'm going to - right here - run through everybody and see who is most suspicious.

Hmm...

Those most suspicious to me are:

Glanred, I'd like to hear a bit more from the lad, first. Yesterday, lad, your last post was: "This was why is comment "Hmm"earlier on his voting also. It actually looks like trying to jump on the easy bandvagon... "sniff" and it doesn´t smell good.", in reference to the late Corporal's hypocrisy and bandwagoning after chiding me myself for doing the same thing (although I wasn't). It seemed to me, at least, that Glanred here would be voting for the Corporal, yet his next post made no reference to it, despite us needed his vote for a lynch (until Mairn stepped in, of course). And today, boys, listen well, he says: "I didn´t find any resonable reason who to vote for when going through all the comment." I would quite enjoy hearing from Sir Glanred here about just what changed his mind about voting for the Corporal when it seems even the stars themselves pointed towards him voting for the Corporal. A good explanation could help you here, my friend.

EEhh first of stop callin' me "SIR", I am no noble man, I am ye a simpl' woodcutt'r.

Aye that I first was like what ye said, I had by doubt 'bout how th' late Corporal voted but after a few day one comments from him and others, also ye I didn´t think he was on top of my day 1 vote.

Frankly to tell th' truth who I would had vote for in the end of day 1, if I would had been there in time, Ye had become on top of my list as th' most scummy.

But still, my sayin' in the beginning of this day "I didn´t find any resonable reason who to vote for when going through all the comment." stands, but if it makes ye feel better, your talkin' and actin' in the end of day one stood out more then th Corporals.

[JackJonespaw]

EEhh first of stop callin' me "SIR", I am no noble man, I am ye a simpl' woodcutt'r.

Aye that I first was like what ye said, I had by doubt 'bout how th' late Corporal voted but after a few day one comments from him and others, also ye I didn´t think he was on top of my day 1 vote.

Frankly to tell th' truth who I would had vote for in the end of day 1, if I would had been there in time, Ye had become on top of my list as th' most scummy.

But still, my sayin' in the beginning of this day "I didn´t find any resonable reason who to vote for when going through all the comment." stands, but if it makes ye feel better, your talkin' and actin' in the end of day one stood out more then th Corporals.

Well, that's jolly good, then, Woodcutter Glanred, and it makes a good deal of sense to me. Personally, I think I shall be holding off on voting today. No one out here is particularily standing out to me today, as of right now. But, hark! The day is far from past!

[jluck]

As it seems like this day could end as weakly as the last, I will go ahead and venture a vote.

Yes, the fish were biting quite well this morning, sorry I lost track of time and forgot to meet up. I'll be totally honest it was certainly a revenge vote yesterday. Stupid? Yes. But I think there have always been revenge votes before.

Does anyone have an idea on how many Assassins there are? Two? Three?

I mean it is possible if there's only two scum and one SK running around, Sir Eustace.

It seems like the extent of Felix Anderson's contributions have been discussing game mechanics, which doesn't sit well with me. With so little talking going on I don't have much to go on so I'll make due with what I have:

vote:Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk)

[mostlytechnic]

So we currently have my one vote for Glanred, and two votes for Felix. Out of 9 people. Come on and vote people!

[Umbra-Manis]

I voted for Felix yesterday since he'd only commented about fish and one game thing. He has showed up less today, even after being voted for.

Glanred has been here a little bit more but his posts are a little hard to understand. Deception, maybe?

[Umbra-Manis]

Apologies for the double post.

Vote: Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk)

[Lady K]

Did I just observe correctly that Mr. Anderson was just here and didn't comment on the fact there are three votes for him?

[Lady K]

It is too quiet here......where are all those who will defend their king at all cost!?

[def]

Still trying to figure out where to vote.

[Mencot]

One can say it is too quiet here, hopefuly th' right persons are workin' on how to save us from th' Dragon bastards!

So we currently have my one vote for Glanred, and two votes for Felix. Out of 9 people. Come on and vote people!

So idea what to be talkin' 'bout would be this maybe. I find it very odd, that ye has not comment back anythin' 'bout my answers to ye. What is yer reason to keep yer vote on me?

Still trying to figure out where to vote.

It is hard isn´t it, too hard!

Because of it I am also ready to take a risk and trust what "sarge" said on him being investigated loyal.

[Mencot]

Personally, I think I shall be holding off on voting today. No one out here is particularily standing out to me today, as of right now. But, hark! The day is far from past!

I do not know if this be a good trend. Ofcourse in a small place like this, if we do not know at all, who to vote for and don't find a possible scum. Then a no lynch could be better than to lose a loyal.

But we can trust that th' traitors ain't lazy workin' in th' shadows 'nd trying to kill us all.

Nat many hours left now, can we get an overview.

[Dragonfire]

Nat many hours left now, can we get an overview.

You have 1 hour and 5 minutes remaining.

Vote Tally

Glanred (Mencot) - 1 (mostlytechnic)

Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk) - 3 (Lady K, jluck, Umbra-Manis)

[Mencot]

You have 1 hour and 5 minutes remaining.

Thanks

As it is nau, it seems Felix gonna get it. Do not seem he is even intrested to say anythin' 'bout it...

[jluck]

You have 1 hour and 5 minutes remaining.

Vote Tally

Glanred (Mencot) - 1 (mostlytechnic)

Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk) - 3 (Lady K, jluck, Umbra-Manis)

The apathy is pathetic.

[mostlytechnic]

So idea what to be talkin' 'bout would be this maybe. I find it very odd, that ye has not comment back anythin' 'bout my answers to ye. What is yer reason to keep yer vote on me?

I'm keeping my vote on you because you're about to have a second day of no vote, and not a whole lot of contribution either today. The scum can hide SO easy when a bunch of people are so quiet. This vote could easily go on others as well, since there's still I think 5 people not voting.

[Dragonfire]

With 3 votes, Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk) has been lynched.

It is now night. You have 24 hours to get your night actions in!

Final Vote Tally

Glanred (Mencot) - 1 (mostlytechnic)

Felix Anderson (KingoftheZempk) - 3 (Lady K, jluck, Umbra-Manis)

Not Voting - 5 (def, JackJonespaw, KingoftheZempk, Lord Duvors, Mencot)